Water cooled torch to garden hose ?

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Anyone cooling there torch plumbed to there house water? When I was younger I'd hang out at this guys house watching him build boat towers and tree stands in the back yard. He didn't have a cooler, just hooked up the torch hose to a garden hose somehow and let the return run out in the yard.  Since I got my Dynasty last summer I've been wanting to do this setup. I got me a CK20 torch and the miller connector to hook it up to the welder and now I'm looking for what else I'll need. I believe the water in and out connectors and left hand 5/8"x18 thread. Anyone have an idea on an adapter from that to something standard I can plumb into my water supply?Chicks Dig Body DamageMiller Dynasty 200dxHobart Handler 187Lincoln AC 225
Reply:The torch and connector I got.Chicks Dig Body DamageMiller Dynasty 200dxHobart Handler 187Lincoln AC 225
Reply:Here is the 5/8" x 18 LH adapter:http://www.arc-zone.com/index.php?ma...oducts_id=2515It adapters to 1/4"NPT. From there you can get all the stuff from home depot to adapt to a garden hose.Remember, don't open the faucet full blast. All the need is a trickle of water. Full blast will blow up the torch. kidtigger24Last edited by kidtigger24; 01-16-2013 at 09:06 PM.  They think I’m crazy, but I know better. It is not I who am crazy. It is I who am MAD!
Reply:Just what I was looking for. That should do the trick.Chicks Dig Body DamageMiller Dynasty 200dxHobart Handler 187Lincoln AC 225
Reply:I put a picture of how one of my set ups looks.  You can make the water go either way, perhaps the other way is better.  That is the same block for a the 18 and 20 water cooled torches.You won't blow anything with normal 50 or so psi water pressure.  Small tubes cah take quite a bit of pressure and if anything fails it is when the water isn't going and turns to steam.  I blow mine out with 90 to 100 psi air when done most of the time.Fran Attached Images
Reply:I used to weld at a shop with an old miller big 40. The water cooler set up on that was a lawn fountain pump  submerged in a bucket with a return line. Very high tech, but I welded heavy alumn. and steel with it for over a year with no issues
Reply:Originally Posted by kidtigger24Remember, don't open the faucet full blast. All the need is a trickle of water. Full blast will blow up the torch. kidtigger24
Reply:I bet there wouldn't be too much of a difference in psi from full open to partially open. You're going from 3/4" hose to less than 1/4". I'm not sure how that affects pressure. I'll be posting up any problems I have.Chicks Dig Body DamageMiller Dynasty 200dxHobart Handler 187Lincoln AC 225
Reply:I used the garden hose method for a while.I have a CK 20 torch as well.  They call for 1 liter of coolant flow a minute.  Turn your hose up until your output end can fill a 1 quart mason jar in just under a minute and youre GTG.  I got my garden hose to NPT at HD, and the LH female tig fitting online.Last edited by Drf255; 01-17-2013 at 05:08 AM.TA Arcmaster 300CM3XMT 304S22P12 suitcase feederX-Treme 12VSOptima pulserTA161SMaxstar 150STLHypertherm PM45OP setupStihl 020AVP, 039, 066 Magnum
Reply:My water pressure here can get up to 100 psi or more sometimes (I'm down in a low spot). If I run the water full blast I get to much water out and since I drain it out in the drive it makes a mess. But if I try to regulate it with a valve it gets touchy and I've ruined a cable that way once. Thus I use a camper type water pressure regulator on mine. It works great giving me more than enough water for my little Dynasty 200 machine without making a big mess and wasting water. I know I've put up a picture of my setup on here somewhere but I've not got time to track it down right now.Millermatic 252XMT 304'sDynasty 280DXHypertherm PowerMax 1250Miller Trailblazer 302 EFIOptima PulserXR feeder and XR Edge gun and more athttp://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook/index.htm
Reply:Originally Posted by zapsterMine is on full blast.You used it before..................zap!
Reply:Thanks for the feedback guys. I gotta get me one of those fittings.Chicks Dig Body DamageMiller Dynasty 200dxHobart Handler 187Lincoln AC 225
Reply:I got all of my fittings at Lowes... also got some clear reinforced hose there.
Reply:Originally Posted by a1998z3I got all of my fittings at Lowes... also got some clear reinforced hose there.
Reply:The shop I worked at for the past 27  years used  tap water and just let it go down the drain.  We got a new Lincoln invertec that came with the chiller.  The tap water setup  worked flawlessly.I recently learned that tap water set up may not be a good idea. The reason is that some water that is high in minerals can start to deposit the minerals inside the wetted areas (areas that water touches).  The mineral deposits can inhibit the cooling ability of the water, watertight overheating the torch head.That was not my experience. Depends on your water. I recently bought a tig machine and have an air cooled and water cooled torch. I plan on finding a small radiator , fan and a water pump to make a chiller.RandyLast edited by rcs9250; 02-02-2013 at 08:57 PM.
Reply:Well I've finally got all the pieces together for my water cooled setup. Got the dinse connector from miller4less.com and the 2 lefthand 5/8" to 1/4" from arczone.com. Also got a few things from the hardware store.The only leak I have is from the garden hose to the water in line but that should be an easy fix and I'll also put a swivel in so I won't have to twist the hose up when connecting it.Last edited by homemadexj; 02-04-2013 at 10:55 PM.Chicks Dig Body DamageMiller Dynasty 200dxHobart Handler 187Lincoln AC 225
Reply:My uncle use to be a great water treatment guy until he blew his back out. Normal tap water is horrible to use because most of it contains a very high amount of iron, you know, the brown stuff all around the toilet and bath tub. If you have city water, that is the worst because it contains a lot of crap (chlorine, and stuff)plus high iron, maganese, and others, in it because it is cheaper to use crap to treat water then actual filters.The best to use is either treated water, with a iron remover (solids and dissolved) and a neutralizer to control PH, or to use a cheap bottled water because they don't add things like mag to make you thirstier.
Reply:He is running it through a brass torch head. The fittings are brass. The hoses are usually a poly of some sort or vinyl.Your concerns are valid if he were loading up his water cooler. A torch head doesn't cost jack.Edit: I didn't even think about the deposit aspect of it. I was thinking about erosion and corrosion. So my apologies to Country Metals. You DO have a valid point.Last edited by Joker11; 02-05-2013 at 12:06 AM.Reason: Engaged mouth before brain.Lincoln Power Mig 210MP MIGLincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-PullLincoln TIG 300-300Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v  Thanks JLAMESCK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cupThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101My brain
Reply:Hopefully it will last quite a while. Once I get a few good paying jobs I'll pick up a cooler and another torch, then use this one for portability.Chicks Dig Body DamageMiller Dynasty 200dxHobart Handler 187Lincoln AC 225