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i am looking for a new welder or new to me (used) i am near carson city nevadai am not sure if i really need a tig but i have allways used mig and been happy with the good ones i hadi see some tig/stick units that seem a good price but whats the benefit?i mostly do car work body and heavy guage and fabbing up brackets making trailers etc i dont need to weld railway line together and i dont need to overpay for bragging rightsi recently sold my millermatic autoset due to a house move sure it worked ok but i wasnt impressed with the build quality infact i thought it felt ,,cheap,, when compared to a century welder i had that just seemed way better built??anyways ive had quite a few mig welders some good (migatronic , cebora) and a current big yellow one i have now at another location that i cant remember the brand ...butcan anybody suggest a good unit out there right now or store to use as i have been considering lotos and htp and a hobart 190 i spotted today all in the 500-1000 usd rangethanks
Reply:I'm in Sparks, howdy neighbor, don't get a Lotos, I understand they are going bankrupt. The only good yellow welders I know off are ESAB. TIG is real nice for bodywork. Though a good MIG should do most of what you need. If you don't need to do Aluminum, there are lots of good deals out there. The new Lincoln 210mp would fit your needs very well @ $1k. It's just released so you might have to wait a bit to get one. What is your budget? Unfortunately I don't have 220v power hooked up yet where in staying in Sparks. Most of my welding equipment is still in L.A. but if you are interested in trying TIG, maybe we can get together I have both the 185 micro Everlast and an AHP200dx that's a demo.Tiger Sales: AHP Distributor www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P, Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma. For Sale: Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun. Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:I love my hobart handler 190. I really don't need my stick welder or TIG welder for the stuff I repair and/or the little fabrication projects I do. I just have them for fun. The only thing I would say is given a chance to do it over, I would buy a bigger machine like the Hobart Ironman 230. You can get one for roughly $1500. Refurbished (when in stock) you can get them for $1100.Miller Multimatic 255
Reply:Inverter multi process machine 200A size can had for about 900 like the razorweld 195 it has is 200A at 35% duty cyclehttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Razor-195-Mi.../271683078813?mig,tig,oxy,plasma,lathe,mill,bender,vise,grinder
Reply:thanks for the input!hi southpaw yes i would like to do that sometime after the hols.guess il keep an eye out for a used one or good new deal i just dont like devaluation and theres lots of people at this level of kit that buy it new barely use it then let it collect dust
Reply:I love my Hobart 190 but if I had to do it again I'd get the 210mvp. The 110v capability would be nice for jobs where 220v is hard to get too. Or the new lincoln power mig 210 Stated above, it does DC mig tig and stickAnother smilar machine is the tweco 181i (220v only) or 211i (110v/220v) both do DC mig tig and stickLone Star Mobile Welding, LLC2006 Ram 3500Lincoln Ranger 250GXTHypertherm 30 AirK2000 CAG ESAB Rebel 215ic Milwaukee mag drillDewalt dry cut sawMilwaukee metal cutting circular sawMilwaukee M18 Fuel Chisholm Lead Reels
Reply:I honestly wonder how much people really use the 110v capability on that machine. Honestly, on 110v you are limited to material less than 1/8th inch. About the only application for that would be doing body work on a buddies car, while away from home. I'd much rather have the added horsepower of the ironman to run an aluminum spool gun, and to do thicker materials. I do like the thought of the fabricator 252i, but that is a lot more money.Miller Multimatic 255
Reply:for me right now i only have 110 in this temporary building i guess i could make up a decent 220 extension cablei have allwasy had 240v units because i allways had 240v oulets and my next place will have 220 i agree regards the extra grunt but i do mostly car work and have rarely needed arc welding power from a mig i have owned and it is handy to just take the dual voltage unit to anywhere you need it especially these smaller modern unitsbut i do question weather a modern name brand is as good as it used to be or are they even more so these days just rebadging off brand stuff?my old cebora was a great little unit and is rebadged various names with different price tags including snap onas i said i recentlysold my miller autoset and apart from the blue paint and badges it felt no different than some cheap off brand units i have usedit doesnt even use a euro torch outlet!so i also wonder if my money on a new one is better spent on a better quality good working older unit? or a good deal on a used newer one as once the novelty of your new toy is over its just the samei will look into the above mentioned units ( repair parts supply iand good resale is a big plus) i would prefer 220-240 but side by side at the same price i would choose a d.v setnow if only that razor also had a built in plasma cutter or in trade for the arc capability hmmmm!
Reply:For a high quality and reliable budget MIG, I'd go with the Hobart 210MVP Dual voltage. One of the biggest benefits of it is their alum spool gun is only 200 bucks and it works flawlessly, and with this particular Mig when running non-fluxcore, you can do the thinnest auto body stuff you are likely to run into, plus the thickest auto stuff short of things needed to fab up heavy duty brackets and stuff you run into when dealing with serious off road alterations.As far as Tig, most of us home shop guys performing general auto repair/mods and most home/shop projects simply don't need Tig.....BUT, when we do, we are nearly there if we have decent little stick welder where all we need do then is get a bottle of Argon gas and an inexpensive scratch start Tig setup.Depending on your locale, almost new welding equipment can be had cheaply where you can buy both for 1K or less.
Reply:Originally Posted by Louie1961I honestly wonder how much people really use the 110v capability on that machine. Honestly, on 110v you are limited to material less than 1/8th inch. About the only application for that would be doing body work on a buddies car, while away from home. I'd much rather have the added horsepower of the ironman to run an aluminum spool gun, and to do thicker materials. I do like the thought of the fabricator 252i, but that is a lot more money.
Reply:Originally Posted by achirdoI would use the 110v very often on wrought iron fence mobile work. It would be a lot nicer to be able to run an extension cord to a plug outside than have to run my lincoln Ranger and burn fuel because it runs only off 220v
Reply:If you guys are looking for a deal, Blains farm and fleet has the Hobart 210 on sale for $779 + about $20 shipping (to Texas at least). So for $800 you can have a great 110/220 mig. Some one will bring up that if you are patient you can get the refurb hobarts off their website for $729. I tried that the last time they were in stock and it ended up being $729 + tax @ .0825 = 789.14 + around $20 for shipping totaling $809 for a refurb. Sale starts this weekendLast edited by dklic6; 11-27-2014 at 01:38 PM.
Reply:ok thanks for the info guys can anybody comment on weather this hobart unit mentioned is a worthy machine? is the 190 as good? would your money go towards this? is it any good on ally? i was looking at them in tractor supply and i am wondering if they price match.can somebody clarify and confirm the source that lotos are really going bankrupt? its my belief that eastwood co sell these units rebranded and my father in law has just purchaced one infact the firs one arrived not working properly but they fixed him up straight away but this sounds all too familierafter reading various mostly negative reviews i am going off the idea of a multi combo unit i think il buy a decent mig with maybe tig capabilities and a seperate arc welder and separate plasma cuttersouth paw i think my big yellow mig is a migmag 180
Reply:Might look at the Everlast I-mig 200. I know it's an off brand but I have been happy with their products as have a few others on this site. Sale price is $650 on e-bay. Lot of machine for the $. Definitely go with one that has 110v capability. Most pros dont' have a use but I seem to always find things that the 110v welder can do.
Reply:Originally Posted by rustydeathtrapok thanks for the info guys can anybody comment on weather this hobart unit mentioned is a worthy machine? is the 190 as good? would your money go towards this? is it any good on ally? i was looking at them in tractor supply and i am wondering if they price match.can somebody clarify and confirm the source that lotos are really going bankrupt? its my belief that eastwood co sell these units rebranded and my father in law has just purchaced one infact the firs one arrived not working properly but they fixed him up straight away but this sounds all too familierafter reading various mostly negative reviews i am going off the idea of a multi combo unit i think il buy a decent mig with maybe tig capabilities and a seperate arc welder and separate plasma cuttersouth paw i think my big yellow mig is a migmag 180
Reply:hmmm decisions decisions what i really want is a good deal on a used quality righowever any reason to buy the hobart 210 over this everlast i mig 200? or maybe one of the htp units? i was looking at a hh unit at tractor supply and first impressions yes it does have more plastic on the front over my old mm autoset but that mm just felt cheap compared to this hh and im convinced your partly buying the name so....i have no problem buying off brands if its basicly a rebadged ,,name,, brand but the problem comes when you decide to sell it and it doesnt have a miller or lincoln sticker!i really need to start going to industrial auctions again
Reply:hmmm decisions decisions what i really want is a good deal on a used quality righowever any reason to buy the hobart 210 over this everlast i mig 200? or maybe one of the htp units? i was looking at a hh unit at tractor supply and first impressions yes it does have more plastic on the front over my old mm autoset but that mm just felt cheap compared to this hh and im convinced your partly buying the name so....i have no problem buying off brands if its basicly a rebadged ,,name,, brand but the problem comes when you decide to sell it and it doesnt have a miller or lincoln sticker!southpaw you have p.mi really need to start going to industrial auctions again
Reply:Originally Posted by RoadhunterMight look at the Everlast I-mig 200. I know it's an off brand but I have been happy with their products as have a few others on this site. Sale price is $650 on e-bay. Lot of machine for the $. Definitely go with one that has 110v capability. Most pros dont' have a use but I seem to always find things that the 110v welder can do. |
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