narowing down choices dv migs under $1000

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maybe theres too much choice maybe i need to just make a @#&*_&   decision!anyways what would you choose?IMIG 200 BY EVERLAST ($650)  5 YEAR WARANTYHH 210MVP     ($800)  NOT SURE OF WARRANTYEASTWOOD 200 AMP MIG/STICK ($400)  3 YEAR WARANTY AND CHEAPER BUT.....i dont know eastwood co are good but i just hear about the returns with faultsand it was mentioned recently that lotos who make them are possibly going bankrupt? anybody have any evidence of that?Last edited by rustydeathtrap; 12-03-2014 at 02:14 PM.Reason: info
Reply:For a few dollars more you could get one of these. Probably a better overall choice than the ones you have listed above.http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...p?model=M00245
Reply:I've had my eye on the I-mig 200 for a while now.  I really like the option to stick weld that some of the other machined don't have.   Hard to beat for the $ IMO.
Reply:Get the Hobart, you won't be upset. Just know that any dual voltage machine will not give full power on 120 volts. Your amps and max single pass weld thickness will be limited on 120 volts. Unless you have a specific plan for how you will use dual voltage, you could potentially take that money and buy a more powerful single voltage machine....just something to consider.Miller Multimatic 255
Reply:Originally Posted by BistineauFor a few dollars more you could get one of these. Probably a better overall choice than the ones you have listed above.http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...p?model=M00245
Reply:Originally Posted by RoadhunterI've had my eye on the I-mig 200 for a while now.  I really like the option to stick weld that some of the other machined don't have.   Hard to beat for the $ IMO.
Reply:Originally Posted by Louie1961Get the Hobart, you won't be upset. Just know that any dual voltage machine will not give full power on 120 volts. Your amps and max single pass weld thickness will be limited on 120 volts. Unless you have a specific plan for how you will use dual voltage, you could potentially take that money and buy a more powerful single voltage machine....just something to consider.
Reply:Buy once cry once on your purchase. Trust me on this. The Hobart is the best of the bunch, but yet just a mid grade box store machine.I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys
Reply:Do you feel lucky  ? Buy the imports . If you want the Hobart 210 today is the last day at farm and fleet for a sale price of  $794.99. It has been on dale for a couple of weeks. The Miller rebate is current on the 211 and on their hoods too. Choose wisely or join the club of others who didn't and are still waiting for service on their imports.Here, all kinds of BLUE goodies you can buy and sleep well at night.  http://www.millerwelds.com/products/special-offers.html
Reply:I got the Hobart 190 with Aluminum spool gun for $800 in September and love it.  Similar to 210, but not dual voltage.  If you don't have a seperate budget for tank, helmet, gloves, table, material for cart, etc.. you might want to consider the 190 as that other stuff added up fast for me.
Reply:Originally Posted by rustydeathtrapspeaking of ,,eastwood,, lolyes i had my eye on those but i was not impressed with the cheap feel to my old 140 autoset  and its not really ,,a few dollars more,,
Reply:You can usually find a used millermatic 200 or Hobart Ironman in your price range. If the $1000 limit is firm, I still say go with the Hobart or the Miller 211 ($1099 at cyberweld). Otherwise, I would stretch and get the Hobart Ironman new for $1500 (me personally, I would stretch for more power and greater duty cycle, but that's just me.)Miller Multimatic 255
Reply:Originally Posted by rustydeathtrapyes my friend had a bigger everlast unit and was happy with it and still is. im not sure i REALLY need the stick option . its handy but if i could upgrade and lose it i would
Reply:What about the Lincoln 210MP?
Reply:Originally Posted by whiskeymikeI got the Hobart 190 with Aluminum spool gun for $800 in September and love it.  Similar to 210, but not dual voltage.  If you don't have a seperate budget for tank, helmet, gloves, table, material for cart, etc.. you might want to consider the 190 as that other stuff added up fast for me.
Reply:Originally Posted by weldermikeWell spoken. Nothing about welding is cheap. Nothing. You want good you pay, and that's all it comes down to.
Reply:Originally Posted by RoadhunterWould be pretty easy to have it setup for solid wire and gas at the shop and if you need to go portable just disconnect the gas line and mig gun and go stick welding.  One thing to look at is the rated output of the machine.  Some of the 230 v machines will surprise you.  I have a miller 175 that is only rated for 130 amps @30% duty cycle.  That's not very impressive for a 230v name brand welder IMO.That 190 Hobart is only rated for 30% duty cycle @ 130 Amps as well.The imig 200 is rated for 100% duty cycle at 130 amps and at 200A @ 35% Duty Cycle.  Big difference.Something to think about when making a welder purchase.
Reply:Originally Posted by icutmtlWhat about the Lincoln 210MP?
Reply:Originally Posted by woodskiffPlease!  My son and I have really zeroed in on this machine with the magnum 100 spool gun pack.  I think Lincoln Electric is a superior company too.Thank You, WoodskiffIntro...Hi all, My son and I always wanted to learn to weld and metal fabrication in our home based shop. Well, fast forward a few years and a college grad son and his dad are taking vocational welding courses together.....anyway we're looking to buy our first machine!
Reply:If it were me, and I know it's not, I'd go with the Hobart 210 MVP on your budget.  You still need a cylinder of C25 or other gas in order to run mig, though you can run flux core without.  You can also run the HH 210 MVP using smaller CO2 cartridges that you buy for the airsoft or whatever it's called paint gun stuff.If you want stick at some point, you can look for a used transformer stick welder like a Lincoln or Miller thunderbolt.  They can be found cheap.  I got my Lincoln AC/DC 225/150 for $100 on CList and could have bought another yesterday for $200.  They come up.The nice thing about two machines is you aren't stuck if one goes down.  I think a multi process inverter would be neat but if it craps out, you don't have stick, mig or tig - all your eggs are in one basket.  Plus, you'd be hard pressed to fry a transformer welder.  Ever.Just my thoughts from a home garage.
Reply:Originally Posted by BistineauIt's only $59 over what your stated budget price of $1000, so that IS a few dollars more. Look down below the price to see "save $100 on mail in rebate" It comes out to $1059. You may can get a better deal at one of your local welding stores if you show them that ad, and then send in for the rebate afterwards.
Reply:''i think part of the cost is paying for the name so i would rather have 2 everlasts or a mig and a cheap plasma cutter''Take time to review the everlast or as some that have then ''neverlast ''. You may need two for sure so as you  ship one for repairs you have the other one to use for months while the defective one is repaired.  The Miller, Lincoln, and Hobarts cost  more for a reason. They have proven themselves being used daily in production and as industries standards. Good luck
Reply:hahaha thats funny i think i will look into that but i have read some very good non biased reviews i dont want to buy twice andil take a well known brand for the same price everytime but theyre not andwhere are the name brands actually made? or there internal parts? i could have decided to go even cheaper and go with the eastwood but i am dubious over thoselotos unitsif theyre made partly in china etc like most things then i dont get the argument and if theyre made entirely here i would like to support that but am i simply paying for higher overheads not better parts?i believe that everlast is has a base in san francisco? probably china town right?? hahaha
Reply:Originally Posted by rustydeathtraphahaha thats funny i think i will look into that but i have read some very good non biased reviews i dont want to buy twice andil take a well known brand for the same price everytime but theyre not andwhere are the name brands actually made? or there internal parts? i could have decided to go even cheaper and go with the eastwood but i am dubious over thoselotos unitsif theyre made partly in china etc like most things then i dont get the argument and if theyre made entirely here i would like to support that but am i simply paying for higher overheads not better parts?i believe that everlast is has a base in san francisco? probably china town right?? hahaha
Reply:Originally Posted by AKweldshopAmerica still has freedom of choice.Nobody can force you to buy something.Do what you want.....Good Luck...~JohnOriginally Posted by rustydeathtrapwhat a usefull commentcongratulations on the 1 extra post count
Reply:Originally Posted by rustydeathtrapwhat a usefull commentcongratulations on the 1 extra post count
Reply:Originally Posted by AKweldshopThanks man....Happy hunting.
Reply:Originally Posted by NinjaRayFor a second I thought I seen that emoticon give a one finger salute
Reply:Originally Posted by NinjaRayYou have been given a lot of good advice then you had to make a comment like that  This is a good helpful community not the ghetto.