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Iv got a new project a dairy had the floor of there bucket fall out ...apparently there handy man welds didnt hold ha ha I have to replace the floor and half the back plus all the whear plates on the bottom  and bottom sheets .....all Iin all its 1300 in materials There will be more picks to fallow ..... Attached Images
Reply:That is a project and a half.  Good luck and keep us posted.JobSmart MIG125Lincoln AC225-SLincoln Pro-Mig 175Dewalt GrindersRidgid ChopsawIR Garage Mate CompressorAny thing worth doing, is worth doing right.
Reply:Hopefully it got cold enough to cut the number of flies down. I used to have to do work at some of the dairy farms in Buckeye. It was downright nasty in the summer time.
Reply:At this point I'm not sure it really matters much anymore. There isn't much original bucket left to work with. Probably almost faster and cheaper to start with mostly new materials vs trying to do a ton of patching..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:1300 in materials, what's a new or used bucket cost ?
Reply:Originally Posted by 123456789101300 in materials, what's a new or used bucket cost ?
Reply:What are they feeding them?!?  If it were mine I'd push it back into position and weld it, just out of curiosity to see how long it would last.Nothing Ever Got Done By Quitting, Never Give Up.
Reply:Everything rusts out on a dairy. Can't really tell from the pictures but most buckets used on a dairy will be paper thin. Heck it will eat the arms off. I suspect if the materials are $1300 it's going to be built right... not some cheap 10 gauge, 1/4" sided bucket.
Reply:Originally Posted by 123456789101300 in materials, what's a new or used bucket cost ?
Reply:Originally Posted by hddnisI can't tell the size from the pictures, but a new bucket could easily be 4-6k or more. We just got a new bucket for a 7k class mini excavator that was $1700.00. Materials to build the same bucket would have been about $600.00Mr. HE
Reply:I grew up in Tempe. Back in the 60's and  70's there was a rendering plant on 48th st. just south of the stockyards that had some VILE odors coming out of it that I am sure were toxic as well. When the wind was right or wrong you could smell that for miles. I am sure they are both gone by now. We used to see/smell dump trucks driving into that stink hole full of bloated cows off the desert.
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Reply:The bucket was originally 3/8ths thick now its about 1/4 the problem is its used in there feeding area wich is all concrete and over 6 yrs the wore the side bars and bottom whear plates down to paper thin so assuming they went to dig or pick up something heave and ripped it all apart and the floor section alone 1/2 in with the roll in it is 700 its self ...im going to use a mix of 1/8 and 5/32 7018  And ya the 20 to 30 deg weather has killed all the flys up here
Reply:Is a repair really going to save any money over just buying a new or used bucket?Miller Dynasty 200DXMiller 252 Miller 250xMiller Syncrowave 250Miller AEAD200 LegendMiller 375 Xtreme plasmaLincoln WeldPak 100Victor O/A
Reply:Found a used bucket for 3k +new 8k+ they'll only be in the bucket 1900 when all done n said ill be starting on it in the am
Reply:May the force be with you At least you don't have to share your lunch with the fly's ...Always hated thatBacked my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:You've got some work ahead of you for sure. Post a lot of pics!"Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:Ya I do ha ha n thanks killdozered  im plannin on posting as many picks that I can this is my first bucket build on my own .....ive done plenty of other work so cant be to bad ha ha ha ...just thinkin on lapping the back 3in over the old skin  to help with strength vs just butting it up n welding it
Reply:Sorry its taken so long guys ...but heres some picks Attached Images
Reply:Heres startin to weld it out today  with 5/32 7018 Attached Images
Reply:How did you get the plate rolled?ChrisAuction Addict
Reply:Looking Good!Is it still $1300 for materials?I haven't bought steel that size in a while so to me it seems high.Either way, keep up the good work!
Reply:yeah how did ya roll the plate? looks good though! just mild steel I presume?R.T. Welding LLCOn Site ServiceColumbus, NJ
Reply:I had a shop here in town roll it for me. I had them add 3in on the back for a lap and 1 in on the front to be safe ... its all mild steel besides the two front side bars they are ar400 ...I feel the the price for it all is pretty high ..but I cant really argue it was the only place I could get ar and have that sheet rolled ....
Reply:Originally Posted by milomiloHow did you get the plate rolled?Dsw not to argue with ya but I think it was rolled vs press bumped ill take a better pic tomorrow ..it very well may been but I thought it was to smooth to not be rolled ..
Reply:Possible that it was. I didn't see your reply above mine when I posted.I guessed that it was bumped from that pict. I have seen it where they put the bends fairly close together, almost touching and only do slight bends so it looks really close to being rolled. It's a lot easier to do that if you have a press like a buddy of mine has with an infeed table and a digital scale to measure bends. I've seen him do some pretty complex bends with his press that he can't do easily with his roll..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:Really ? Thats interesting ..unfortunately I doubt anyone around me has anything that fancy possibly in denver but not up here in greeley I was lucky to get them to do it without an act with them
Reply:Originally Posted by FifelakerI grew up in Tempe. Back in the 60's and  70's there was a rendering plant on 48th st. just south of the stockyards that had some VILE odors coming out of it that I am sure were toxic as well. When the wind was right or wrong you could smell that for miles. I am sure they are both gone by now. We used to see/smell dump trucks driving into that stink hole full of bloated cows off the desert.
Reply:When I was a kid, 15 years old or so, my brothers and I would buy those bricks of .22LR.  We'd load up and go to the local rendering plant and shoot rats using flashlights and .22's.  Had a hoot.  We would fire hundreds of rounds per night, running around in the dark.Can't do that stuff anymore.  Not once were we contacted by anyone, and we never had any kind of accident.  Now after a long night of shooting rats, we'd go somewhere for breakfast.  Wow Wee, we would get used to the stench after an hour or two at the plant, but the nice folks in the restaurants would almost retch.  But those were the days when we would keep our shotguns in our trucks during school so we could go duck hunting when school let out.
Reply:No wire feeder?I could innershield that together in half the time it gonna take you to stick weld that.But if customer not gonna complain then have it.
Reply:why not use ar400 on bottom plate, extra cost im guessing?R.T. Welding LLCOn Site ServiceColumbus, NJ
Reply:I have a ln 25 pro in the truck but No inersheild cus the weld supply was a week out and they had the rod on shelf ..I was going to run a dual sheild wire but the would have had to order that as well ...makes no sense why they didnt stock any of that ...but all in all it didnt take to long to weld the inside out just cranked er up round 180-190 ...and the reason for mild on the floor insted of ar 400 was cost if I remember right they quoted me around 1700 with the roll for just the floor in ar plate
Reply:Originally Posted by rjk weldingI have a ln 25 pro in the truck but No inersheild cus the weld supply was a week out and they had the rod on shelf ..I was going to run a dual sheild wire but the would have had to order that as well ...makes no sense why they didnt stock any of that ...but all in all it didnt take to long to weld the inside out just cranked er up round 180-190 ...and the reason for mild on the floor insted of ar 400 was cost if I remember right they quoted me around 1700 with the roll for just the floor in ar plate
Reply:Originally Posted by admsweldingFind a new LWS.What kind of supplier doesn,t have pallets of the stuff I know my guy does.Just got 2 rolls of ultracore 71a85 yesterday 1/16"He had a pallet stacked of this and multiple others with all wires you can imagine.JMO.
Reply:I love running the 71a85 just gotta burn up some gas with those dualshield wiresR.T. Welding LLCOn Site ServiceColumbus, NJ
Reply:Might as well forget Cheyenne as neither of the two LWS stores stock very much of anything.  But they would be happy to order it for you and have it there in the morning.
Reply:Hmm Ill have to keep that in mind for next time ...cant wait for this weather to clear up so I can get back to work -13 tonight dosent sound any fun
Reply:From the looks of the temps  down here in the SE corner of the state , you should have about a week or so off . Next two days high temp is supposed to reach 16 here .  Glad i only have one water tank to keep open .