Miller did it. They really really did it. Dynasty280

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They just announced the rollout.I will have to save my pennys. I will take 3 phase please!http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...p?model=M00389http://www.millerwelds.com/pdf/spec_sheets/AD4-9.pdfLast edited by shovelon; 10-02-2013 at 04:13 PM.Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li  ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:I'm glad I haven't bought a 200dx yet, i think the 280 might have a place to stay in my shopAirco Ac/Dc 300 HeliwelderMillerMatic 200 (stolen)Miller Maxstar 150STLMiller AEAD200LE (welding and generating power) Hobart MIG
Reply:Yes please.......I like it.Disclaimer; "I am just an a$$hole welder, don't take it personally ."
Reply:That's a lot of moneyTorchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Originally Posted by GambleThat's a lot of money
Reply:And I just purchased my 200DX 2 weeks ago.  Dang.
Reply:Very nice.Doesn't look any bigger then a 200DX. Doesn't do 120 volt input, but who cares. I never use 120 on my 200DX.Excellent choice. I'm actually a little jealous. Just kidding. Good Luckkidtigger24  They think I’m crazy, but I know better. It is not I who am crazy. It is I who am MAD!
Reply:Pretty dang cool.  The price doesn't seem too outrageous. Dave J.Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Originally Posted by SquirmyPugI'm glad I haven't bought a 200dx yet, i think the 280 might have a place to stay in my shop
Reply:hope this will push the price of the ESAB 281i down too!Tiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:Bout time! Tested one last year ... loved it!http://www.facebook.com/LockhartMetalArthttp://www.facebook.com/pages/Grumpy...44306259043484
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749Five grand+ for the DX model.Just put a little more with it & buy the 350IMHO of course
Reply:Dang, I have no need for such a beast, but I'm drooling  1st on WeldingWeb to have a scrolling sig! HTP Invertig 400HTP Invertig 221HTP ProPulse 300HTP ProPulse 200 x2HTP ProPulse 220MTSHTP Inverarc 200TLP HTP Microcut 875SC
Reply:Depending on the price point, the 280DX may be a good option for those thinking about a 200DX.  Miller has stripped out the most important features of the 350DX though, and with comparison to the 350DX, a machine built with twice the weight, you can draw your own conclusions as to which machine the 280DX most compares.  If you need portable, that's a real consideration, but don't think you're getting a lighter, reduced output 350DX.
Reply:That's a lot of Do Re Me.  Wonder what the online price will be?Also wonder if there will be a glut of used 200's on the market soon.TA Arcmaster 300CM3XMT 304S22P12 suitcase feederX-Treme 12VSOptima pulserTA161SMaxstar 150STLHypertherm PM45OP setupStihl 020AVP, 039, 066 Magnum
Reply:well.. isn't that cute...INVERTIG.PRO DIGITAL 450 AC/DC TIG SET Only 31 kg in weight!A massive 450 amps @ 100% Duty Cycle - Weld all day!High Frequency Pulsing up to 3000 HzAdvanced Inverter Power SourceOutput current:   3 - 450 AmpsDuty cycle:         450 Amps  @ 100 %  (40°C)Input voltage:     400 V / 3 phaseFuse Rating:       32 AmpWeight:              31 kgSize [mm]:         520x360x460http://www.rehm.co.uk/invertig.pro-digital.html--------------------------------------------------------------www.becmotors.nlyup, I quit welding.. joined welder anonymous
Reply:Originally Posted by Mr. MooseDepending on the price point, the 280DX may be a good option for those thinking about a 200DX.  Miller has stripped out the most important features of the 350DX though, and with comparison to the 350DX, a machine built with twice the weight, you can draw your own conclusions as to which machine the 280DX most compares.  If you need portable, that's a real consideration, but don't think you're getting a lighter, reduced output 350DX.
Reply:Look carefully at the standard model. This is the magical "EZ" model that takes the gueswork out of setup. You can download and diagnose through your smartphone. You can contact Miller techsupport and they can view your weld parameters. This is really tig and stick for "dummys".Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li  ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Careful Steve, you are about to be mobbed by Smurfs (little blue fanboys)  the real area for competition here is the likes of ESAB, HTP etc who can make a similar machine of equal quality for $1000-$1500 less.   Not sure about Thermal Arc anymore.   Seems they decided to compete for the Chicom market instead of the red and blue one.   Sent w/ Tapatalk using Swype, pls excuse typosTiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749If it was about $1500 or so cheaper, I would go out & buy one this week.The 200 is "affordable" but for three grand +, I want more amps. The portability is where I really see the 280 filling the need for on site guys who need a bigger machine than the 200 DX, but around the same size & weight.Yeah, it's really cool. Just too expensive for this guy.After you buy one & test it out, you can sell it to me cheap....If there's anything left of it
Reply:Well Steve, my little Dynasty200 is 4 years old now. It gets used on average of 20hrs/week. That means I have done $32000 worth of biz with it. At 4 time cost for ROI, it was paid for in 2 years in theory. At the time I bought it I had a batch of field jobs that requiered use of housecurrent for power or a generator. At $100/hr, the ROI was taken care of in short order. My Dynasty350s get rode hard AC @ 350 amps output 30 hours a week. These machines are the workhorse of my shop. I came to find out they last longer the more consistently you use them. My last Dynasty350 "ChiComed" at 8000 hours. I climbed down off my pile of cash and rang up my LWS and ordered a frivolity, a Dynasty700.Last edited by shovelon; 10-03-2013 at 11:25 AM.Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li  ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749LMAO! Pile of cash..... Yeah, as I was saying earlier, for a guy like you, it's a no brainer. You use them & you make lots of money with them. Of course, to make money, you gotta spend it too.For a guy like me, I just couldn't justify the cost for how little I would use it. I hardly use my S'Wave as it is.It looks really sweet. If it was priced a little less, I would prolly own one. Like I was saying earlier with the Dynasty 200, it's a great little machine, but for that kind of money, I want more amps. If there comes a day I need one for work, ill buy one. Right now it just isn't a need & most all the welding I do in the field is DC TIG, flux core or stick. I've got a spool gun for the occasional field repair on heavy AL.
Reply:Not sure, but it looks like a ten year old Thermal-arc with a bit more wave programing.  Nothing new to look at here. Probably will weld as nice as a the older Thermal using the soft sq wave setting.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:Well, I like my 300GTSW but it's on its last legs and the Dynasty 280's looking pretty good right now. Half the current draw too, which is more important to me than the waveforms. It would also be a better color match for the Coolmate 3 that the Thermal Arc is sitting on now. Also considering the HTP221 because it will run on 120V and has more amps (on 240) than any other such machine. Decisions, decisions... JohnA few weldersA lot of hammersA whole lot of C-clamps
Reply:Originally Posted by soutthpawCareful Steve, you are about to be mobbed by Smurfs (little blue fanboys)Originally Posted by Silicon-basedWell, I like my 300GTSW but it's on its last legs and the Dynasty 280's looking pretty good right now. Half the current draw too, which is more important to me than the waveforms. It would also be a better color match for the Coolmate 3 that the Thermal Arc is sitting on now. Also considering the HTP221 because it will run on 120V and has more amps (on 240) than any other such machine. Decisions, decisions... John
Reply:Funny,I watched an Arcmaster 300 sell for $1200 on eBay last month.  Except for the max AC frequency and the waveforms, it will do everything that Dynasty 280 will.Never popped a 50 amp breaker with my Arcmaster 300.   I still believe that a used one is THE machine to look for.  Cannot beat the price.TA Arcmaster 300CM3XMT 304S22P12 suitcase feederX-Treme 12VSOptima pulserTA161SMaxstar 150STLHypertherm PM45OP setupStihl 020AVP, 039, 066 Magnum
Reply:Dammit! My bank account is still recovering from my recent MM350P Alumipro acquisition. Now all my excuses I've used the last 6 years for not buying a Thermal Arc 185 or Dynasty 200 are gone. Like many others, the +300 amp inverters are too much but the >/=200 amp aren't enough. Forget about all the great deals on used stuff because I'm single phase 240v ~50-70 amp max supply range. This whole time my poor little Econotig has been filling in for AC tig aluminum, might as well take the knob off because its permanently set to kill setting, fortunately I can't hold onto the air cooled torch much longer than the thermal shutdown breaker holds out. I need 1/4" + with a reasonable duty cycle which has kept me back from pulling the trigger on the TA or Dynasty so far. Yes the 350 Dynasty is the easy answer but my pile of cash always seems to end up elsewhere Please give user/owner reports as they come in!
Reply:Originally Posted by weedenbDammit! My bank account is still recovering from my recent MM350P Alumipro acquisition. Now all my excuses I've used the last 6 years for not buying a Thermal Arc 185 or Dynasty 200 are gone. Like many others, the +300 amp inverters are too much but the >/=200 amp aren't enough. Forget about all the great deals on used stuff because I'm single phase 240v ~50-70 amp max supply range. This whole time my poor little Econotig has been filling in for AC tig aluminum, might as well take the knob off because its permanently set to kill setting, fortunately I can't hold onto the air cooled torch much longer than the thermal shutdown breaker holds out. I need 1/4" + with a reasonable duty cycle which has kept me back from pulling the trigger on the TA or Dynasty so far. Yes the 350 Dynasty is the easy answer but my pile of cash always seems to end up elsewhere Please give user/owner reports as they come in!
Reply:You smurf!My next tax return hopefully the wifey lets me get one so it can sit in the garage and collect dust like my TB Originally Posted by 7A749I admit, I went into the LWS today & priced the dumbed down one.Lets say I was quite surprised at the number & started to scheme.....Duane & I both laughed & said we should buy one so we could brag about beating Terry to the punch on it Really, at what dude quoted me, it's not entirely insane to think about possibly getting one. Of course, I need a Dynasty like I need another hole in the head. LMAO Deep down, I'll always be a blue fan boy.....
Reply:Originally Posted by weldermikeSyncrowave 210 brother!
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749Five grand+ for the DX model.Just put a little more with it & buy the 350IMHO of course
Reply:Originally Posted by weedenbThanks for the reply weldermike,The Synchrowaves are very fine units, have several 250's at work that I play with once and awhile running on 480v 3-ph with water coolers. I would love to have one at home but that's the crux of the issue. The transformers are about as bullet proof as you can get but they take a lot of juice and weigh a lot. I've put in several bids on used 250's over the years with no luck so far. The old 200 and new 210 look very nice but other than all the parameters being adjustable they don't really have much more to offer than my old Econotig has. Don't get me wrong as that old girl is still the most used welder I have. In the last few weeks I've DC tigged some stainless, AC tigged some 3" aluminum flanged tee's and burnt up a bunch of 7018 stick on plain old steel. Its always been there for me but I just feel bad running it flat out on heavier aluminum. By comparison my Betamig and MM350P-Alum MIG units have life pretty easy. There is a place for a good multi-process unit in everyone's home, its just hard finding the right home for the ones available.
Reply:Originally Posted by 76GMC1500The 200 is EXTREMELY capable and very portable.  The 350 does not give much more capability and is much less portable.  How often do you do aluminum over 1/4 inch and 200 amps will do just about anything except wire feed and carbon arc on steel.
Reply:Originally Posted by con_fuse9I have the 350 (which I love) but I would agree.  Buy the 200, take the extra money and buy a 250ish MIG with a quality spool gun - used is OK.  A Miller 251 or 252 would match nicely in case you are blue skinned
Reply:Originally Posted by Mick120You'd need to save more than pennys over here mate....probably twice the price for it here.....