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hello everyone i am looking for a goood begginner tig welder i have looked around at a couple different ones tested my friends 165 diversion and i really like it. Anyways i was just wondering how a longevity tigweld 200sx or a Everlast i tig 200 would match up to the miller all help appreciated. i am looking to weld stainless steel and mild steel.
Reply:See here.http://lmgtfy.com/Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li  ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Longevity and Everlast DONT match up to Miller. Period.
Reply:Originally Posted by RiesLongevity and Everlast DONT match up to Miller. Period.
Reply:This topic has never been covered. Thanks for the unique post.Motorboating...in the Cleavage of the Tetons
Reply:Originally Posted by rideitThis topic has never been covered. Thanks for the unique post.
Reply:"Longevity and Everlast DONT match up to Miller.  Period. "And you are speaking from your own knowledge as an owner..........or just some comments you have read.....????  There are a great many who actually have owned and used Everlast welders for years who would disagree.  He was asking about a beginning tig welder.  I am not a promoter of Everlast, and have no real stake in them, but comments like yours, unless you KNOW  what you are talking about seem thoughtless.Miller Syncrowave 350Millermatic 252/ 30A spoolgunMiller Bobcat 225g w/ 3545 spoolgunLincoln PowerArc4000Lincoln 175 Mig  Lincoln 135 Mig Everlast 250EX TigCentury ac/dc 230 amp stickVictor O/AHypertherm 1000 plasma
Reply:Backed my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:As a TIG beginner, myself I bought the (better?) Harbor Freight (usually $400) unit.It does TIG and stick. But it is ONLY DCEN, up to 165 amps and no regulator. Once I T'd my MIG's gas supply to both machines, I was able to experiment freely with TIG techniques. When I feel my TIG skills are sufficient, I will spend the $1,500.00 and buy a good TIG setup that will hold me for many years.After several hours of practice with the TIG torch, my MIG skills have improved tremendosly! So, go cheep (low quality or used) for now. Expect to spend serious bucks when you are ready.Be wary of The Numbers: Figures don't lie,. but liars can figure.Welders:2008 Lincoln 140 GMAW&FCAW2012 HF 165 'toy' GTAW&SMAW1970's Cobbled together O/A
Reply:Originally Posted by mike837goAfter several hours of practice with the TIG torch, my MIG skills have improved tremendosly!
Reply:Originally Posted by dmiranda58hello everyone i am looking for a good beginner tig welder i have looked around at a couple different ones tested my friends 165 diversion and i really like it. Anyways i was just wondering how a longevity tigweld 200sx or a Everlast i tig 200 would match up to the miller all help appreciated. i am looking to weld stainless steel and mild steel.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveA good friend of mine, who had only used a mig, had the same experience.He learned to read the puddle on tig - the skill transferred to his mig welding.Dave J.
Reply:Stick with LINCOLN , HOBART ,or MILLER. RED , WHITE, and  BLUE !  Sellers in my area try to get NEW prices for used MILLER'S. New Miller pricing may vary by location and from different suppliers.   Is this gonna be your first welding machine ? If so, maybe consider a tig and stick machine. The Miller 200 syncro, the NEW 210 syncro, or a used 180 SD. It depends on what type of welding and material you will be working with.
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749Truth be told, the best thing for you to do is to post something on the sponsored boards for the companies you're seeking information from. This way, you can talk to ppl that own the units & give you a direct opinion of what their experiences are.Because of past experience with the importers in the sponsored section, a lot of members here don't have a very high opinion of these machines or the ppl who sell them.Good luck with it.
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749I believe that was most likely sarcasm Terry
Reply:Originally Posted by RiesLongevity and Everlast DONT match up to Miller. Period.
Reply:Backed my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:Oh no you dint!!!!  Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li  ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Bwahahahahaha!!!! Dave J. Originally Posted by killdozerd11
Reply:Luggy..You run DOWNSTAIRS..WE run UPSTAIRS.Go back downstairs and stay there.And if you think for one minute that your sponsor $$$ is the ONLY reason this site is here well you my friend are SADLY MISTAKEN.Any more complaints?Send them to Ellen or Frank.Thread re-opened for more useless nonsense for the time being.....zap!Last edited by zapster; 10-10-2013 at 01:25 PM.I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:ZAP for President.  Straighten those Aholes in D.C. out.  Zap already lives over there, he could commute.
Reply:How about some non-insider non-childish useful information to aid the rest of us in choosing a TIG welder?
Reply:The 1st amendment still lives on WWThank you for a thankless job gentlemen     Zap and 7A749Backed my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:Originally Posted by bikesandcarsHow about some non-insider non-childish useful information to aid the rest of us in choosing a TIG welder?
Reply:This thread is all sorts of awesome.Thermal Arc 186 AC/DCHobart Handler 125My dad always told not to skimp on tools they are an investment. If you ever come on hard times it is easier to sell a name brand and they hold their value. You can look at CL every day and see all of the used HF welders and tools they don't have a re sale market.  On a another note if you plan. on building your skills you need a machine with a duty cycle and a following of other users to help you along the way with trouble shooting.  I my self own a red square wave 175 tig machine  and love it. It has never let me down. Now I would not have a problem with having an x brand machine in the corner just in case my red machine quit or I got biz and needed someone to help weld up parts or to take to the track and weld up broken race cars. You just don't want to spend money on a machine that you will out grow
Reply:Originally Posted by bikesandcarsHow about some non-insider non-childish useful information to aid the rest of us in choosing a TIG welder?
Reply:Originally Posted by killdozerd11The 1st amendment still lives on WWThank you for a thankless job gentlemen     Zap and 7A749
Reply:Geez!I leave for a few hours and all kinds of shenanigans ensue.Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li  ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Originally Posted by killdozerd11Attachment 512381  You can lead a hose to water but you can't make them drinkAttachment 512391
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonGeez!I leave for a few hours and all kinds of shenanigans ensue.
Reply:There is nothing left here to see so let's all just move along......zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Originally Posted by bikesandcarsHow about some non-insider non-childish useful information to aid the rest of us in choosing a TIG welder?
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749Even better!!!!
Reply:Originally Posted by killdozerd11Attachment 512381  You can lead a hose to water but you can't make them drinkAttachment 512391
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveUmm, I think it's "you can lead the uninformed to knowledge, but you can't make them think..."  Dave J.
Reply:Ahhhhh yes as we set off into yet another sunset on what is good and what is questionable...We say ALOHA to another episode of................."We Have Had Enough Of This Crap".............So tune in next week to see if the misinformed have anything else to chime in about......zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.