Christmas break project,what do ya'll think?

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I built these over break. I have 2 more to paint still but there still all the same. How'd the 15 year old do?
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Reply:Either that's a BIG wagon, or the garbage can in the background is really teeny!
Reply:Hes nine feet tall. Big kid!I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys
Reply:Its a 5x10 nursery trailer. Thats a 35 gallon can. And I'm 5 9. All of Yall are wrong! Sent from my C771 using Tapatalk 2
Reply:LOL bud, you did great man. I posted that from my phone at work and meant to write something good when I got home. But forgot till now. Long days in the cold got me delerious this past week. Great job, and considering your only 15yrs old bumps it to a freakin awsome job!!!!I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys
Reply:Thanks welderMike, how'd I know you find this thread Sent from my C771 using Tapatalk 2
Reply:the 15 year old did pretty goodi.u.o.e. # 15queens, ny and sunny fla
Reply:He did good richey
Reply:Originally Posted by swampwelder13I built these over break. I have 2 more to paint still but there still all the same. How'd the 15 year old do?
Reply:Not familiar with dual axel steering... will the wagon tend to turn in a tighter circle than the towing vehicle?BTW...nice job.  You are fortunate to be able to have materials and tools to produce projects like this at your age.Last edited by Weldordie; 01-05-2014 at 04:27 AM.
Reply:From out here in the very frigid Cheap Seats it looks pretty good!  Not bad for a snot nosed KID!  I do however have a few concerns about the overall design.  The center pivot on the axles looks like it is going to be a tad bit tippy if the load is off center to one side or the other.  Might not be a major concern on a nursery cart but a load of firewood could be something  else.  The articulated steering looks interesting.  Care to elaborate?RogerOld, Tired, and GRUMPYSalesman will call, Batteries not included, Assembly is required, and FREE ADVICE IS WORTH EXACTLY WHAT YOU PAY FOR IT!Dial Arc 250HFThunderbolt 225 AC/DCAssorted A/O torches
Reply:Looks good Swamp. That is a very common design for a nursery trailer, I think they are called tracking trailers. If it is made correctly they will handle a pretty good load, and as long as the center post is solid they have no more tendency to be "tippy" then any other trailer. They are not a high speed trailer, just used on the farm or nursery.Mike
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Reply:They can hold about 5,500lbs of wet plants. Anything over 6,000 they get iffy. Heres a pic of some with a light load hooked to a mahindra 1816. 18hp nonturbo dieselSent from my C771 using Tapatalk 2
Reply:do you have pictures of the pivot?  I love the design.  I made some for a tomato farmer.  they weren't dual steering.  I would love to know more about the dual steering aspect.  Love the design.  great job for anyone but especially if you are indeed 15 yrs old!!
Reply:The steering works with a rod connected to opposite sides of either axles. When the tung of the trailer is pulled the either side the connecting rod pushes on the rear axle causing it to turn, therefore causing the back of the trailer to swing out. This allows operators to maneuver the trailer down tight rows and nursery beds. And anyone whose wondering the spindles on the axles are 3 in sch40 and 3 1/2in sch40. Each welded to 6x6 1/2in plate with 3 passes of 1/8  7018 at 135ampsSent from my C771 using Tapatalk 2
Reply:Wish I could have been doing cool stuff like that when I was 15. Well I guess I was somewhat at that age by the time I was 17, anyway, really nice work young man.
Reply:Thanks guys. Really motivates me to keep it upSent from my C811 4G using Tapatalk
Reply:They look great to me. Was it a good pay check?
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Reply:It was decent... I work for my dad and he pays 15 an hour. Which isn't bad if I didn't have to pay for all the equipment Sent from my C811 4G using Tapatalk
Reply:$15 is solid welder pay around here, and I'll bet you get to choose your lunch time and hours to boot.  Sweet deal for a 15 year old!  I didn't make anything more than a dollar or so above minimum wage until I was in college, when I made $9 an hour working in the university computer lab (around 2X mimimum wage).  When I was 15, I made around $4/hr.Miller Dynasty 200 DXMiller CP-300 with 30A feederHypertherm Powermax 900Oxy-fuel w/Harris torchesScotchman Glide-in bandsawMonarch 10EE latheEmi-Mec Autoturn latheDeckel FP2NC milling machinePro-Tools 105 Bender
Reply:But after running cost I'm only making bout 4 or 5 depending on how much shat breaksSent from my C811 4G using Tapatalk
Reply:Originally Posted by swampwelder13The steering works with a rod connected to opposite sides of either axles. When the tung of the trailer is pulled the either side the connecting rod pushes on the rear axle causing it to turn, therefore causing the back of the trailer to swing out. This allows operators to maneuver the trailer down tight rows and nursery beds. And anyone whose wondering the spindles on the axles are 3 in sch40 and 3 1/2in sch40. Each welded to 6x6 1/2in plate with 3 passes of 1/8  7018 at 135ampsSent from my C771 using Tapatalk 2A brief history on these trailers. They were developed by a team of professors at the ifas institute at the university of Florida in the early 60's(go gators!). They were tired of moving plants and other material around by hand or running over other plant material, only using one trailer at a time. They partnered with nursery growers, engineers, and welders to design the first tracking trailer. Soon after news and designs spread over the south and they were soon a very common thing every nursery and landscape operation.Sent from my C811 4G using Tapatalk
Reply:Articulated trailers are fairly common around larger airports as baggage carts.  The steering is fair bit more complicated as the axles use a king pin set up on each wheel.  Make maneuvering around a VERY EXPENSIVE aircraft a bit more easy.  They tow them pretty fast across the ramp hence the more complicated steering.The ones you built would work for your application nicely.RogerOld, Tired, and GRUMPYSalesman will call, Batteries not included, Assembly is required, and FREE ADVICE IS WORTH EXACTLY WHAT YOU PAY FOR IT!Dial Arc 250HFThunderbolt 225 AC/DCAssorted A/O torches