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I am looking for an older arc welder. I want to add to my collection that you see in my signature. Just a really good hobby welder up to 1" capabilities. Looking for recommendations. Thanks Brianpower max 45miller 180matco 160 hobart beta mig IIthermal dynamics pch 20Lincoln Idealarc tig 300/300 code 8167-c
Reply:Any 230 amp AC welder should do that. But it will take a long time to weld 1''.One of those massive ideal arc 250 amp or old 250 ampg welders would be a good choice, if you can find one. Be ware, those things weigh upwards 350 pounds.old Miller spectrum 625 Lincoln SP-135 T, CO2+0.025 wireMiller model 250 and WP-18V torchCraftsman 100amp AC/DC and WP-17V torchCentury 115-004 HF arc stabilizerHome made 4 transformer spot welderHome made alternator welder
Reply:I have heard some good things about the lincoln buzz box, tombstone but which one model #? Thanks Brian 1" would be very rare maybe never.Last edited by automan; 11-11-2013 at 06:07 PM.power max 45miller 180matco 160 hobart beta mig IIthermal dynamics pch 20Lincoln Idealarc tig 300/300 code 8167-c
Reply:If'n you're going to weld one inch with "Old hobby style welders" collect "Old Industrial grinders" first.Bubble gumTooth pixDuct tapeBlack glueGBMF hammerScrew gun --bad battery (see above)
Reply:Do you have the electrical service to supply somewhere between, say, 60-90 Amps?  Idealarc 250 or Dialarc 250.  If you would be satisfied with AC only, I've seen big old Marquette or Mid-States welders sell for a song.  There's the odd Miller or an AIRCO (many made my Miller) that could be a good deal.  I need to check out the old Lincoln AC180C I bought for $50.  I got it just because it was cute (and heavy as hell), but I'll bet it can still melt metal just fine. It all depends on your locality.  On the East coast here, I can get a decent stick welder for anywhere between $50. and $300."USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:Hard to beat these old girls. Just seen one on Craigs list for $100.00. Attached ImagesDon’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:a/c vs a/c/d/c?  Forget about the 1"power max 45miller 180matco 160 hobart beta mig IIthermal dynamics pch 20Lincoln Idealarc tig 300/300 code 8167-c
Reply:Just got this one for $350.  But it does have 200 feet of 1/0 leads and a cart.This was $300.Incidentally, this is arguably the oldest Dialarc 250 still around.  The oldest manual from 1974 has a starting serial number, and this one is one higher than that.Last edited by Oldendum; 11-11-2013 at 06:43 PM."USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:Those last 2 just make you want to raid a LWS and practice skeet on inverterz.Bubble gumTooth pixDuct tapeBlack glueGBMF hammerScrew gun --bad battery (see above)
Reply:Originally Posted by automana/c vs a/c/d/c?  Forget about the 1"
Reply:These are great machines too, but I never seen one that wasn't 3-phase. Attached ImagesDon’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:You can make money with an AC machine."USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:Only thing bad about those MK3-250s is putting up with the screaming motor all day, but not near as bad as these! Attached ImagesDon’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749Good 'ol JW Jarboe.......I wonder if he ever did infomercials like Billy Mays?Prolly not.....
Reply:You should see a SAE 1500 1500 amps sub arc power supply  2 -750 amp mg sets hooked together.
Reply:Please back on the subject of Lincoln arc welder for my use at home. Model #"S and such. This is a very serious thing for me. Thanks Brianpower max 45miller 180matco 160 hobart beta mig IIthermal dynamics pch 20Lincoln Idealarc tig 300/300 code 8167-c
Reply:http://houston.craigslist.org/tls/4171886956.html  What do you think? Good Deal or not? thanks Brianpower max 45miller 180matco 160 hobart beta mig IIthermal dynamics pch 20Lincoln Idealarc tig 300/300 code 8167-c
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPThese are great machines too, but I never seen one that wasn't 3-phase.
Reply:Originally Posted by automanhttp://houston.craigslist.org/tls/4171886956.html  What do you think? Good Deal or not? thanks Brian
Reply:That 250 tombstone is single phase one of the best built and still made.
Reply:well that one is sold, if anyone sees one close I could get I would appreciate it. Thanks Brianpower max 45miller 180matco 160 hobart beta mig IIthermal dynamics pch 20Lincoln Idealarc tig 300/300 code 8167-c
Reply:Originally Posted by automanwell that one is sold, if anyone sees one close I could get I would appreciate it. Thanks Brian
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749That R3S is a great machine, but three phase only.
Reply:Yessir.the link below the picture shows a shot of the inside
Reply:About the price of a Harbor Freight Stick/TIG 160 amp machine, $395.00 US.Originally Posted by 7A749That's not bad at all. Pretty fair for that machine.
Reply:What kinda budget have you got?Arcon Workhorse 300MSPowcon 400SMTPowcon SM400 x 2Powcon SM3001968 SA200 Redface1978 SA250 DieselMiller Super 32P FeederPre 1927 American 14" High Duty LatheK&T Milwaukee 2H Horizontal MillBryan
Reply:Well budget is really 0. But you have to spend money to make money. I had over $100,000 in body work tools but someone took the side of my shop off and cleaned me out one holiday weekend. I have been trying to recover from that for about 5 yrs now. It is hard to loose 20yrs worth of tools in a weekend. I felt for the longest time, someone had chopped off my arms. Tools are my life. I like to buy quality tools not junk. I am relying on you guys to point me in the right direction and I will listen with respect and thanks. I have not really stick welded since high school metal shop. So I may be on here a lot asking questions and such, I appreciate everything you all do. Thanks Brian.I was wondering about those machines also, look good outside but what about inside. Being that they come from schools is that better or worse for the wear and tear?power max 45miller 180matco 160 hobart beta mig IIthermal dynamics pch 20Lincoln Idealarc tig 300/300 code 8167-c
Reply:You know I run across 3 phase stuff all the time. I wonder how hard it would be to add three phase to my shop. The power lines are only about 100' from my shop, but do they all have three phase up there or not.power max 45miller 180matco 160 hobart beta mig IIthermal dynamics pch 20Lincoln Idealarc tig 300/300 code 8167-c
Reply:Lets talk new machine. Are the new arc welders any good? Any recommendations? Thanks Brianpower max 45miller 180matco 160 hobart beta mig IIthermal dynamics pch 20Lincoln Idealarc tig 300/300 code 8167-c
Reply:Call the power company. As to new arc welders the old tried and true still exist and are the same.Lincolns, Millers, Hobarts. There's other good ones but what's the point ? Nearly every real LWS in the world has them so accessories are a breeze and parts wont be needed unless you get drunklezzed and slam your car into it.Bubble gumTooth pixDuct tapeBlack glueGBMF hammerScrew gun --bad battery (see above)
Reply:Originally Posted by automanLets talk new machine. Are the new arc welders any good? Any recommendations? Thanks Brian
Reply:What about this? Posting ID: 4184888558 Houston Craigslistpower max 45miller 180matco 160 hobart beta mig IIthermal dynamics pch 20Lincoln Idealarc tig 300/300 code 8167-c
Reply:Originally Posted by automanWhat about this? Posting ID: 4184888558 Houston Craigslist
Reply:what kind of power does it take? I have a huge breaker box in shop plenty of open spacespower max 45miller 180matco 160 hobart beta mig IIthermal dynamics pch 20Lincoln Idealarc tig 300/300 code 8167-c
Reply:I need another welder like I need a hole in my head, but I'd buy that welder! I'd guess you'd need a 100-amp breaker if you ever ran that welder at full amps. I ran a Miller Gold Star on a 90-amp breaker for years, and never once through it.Don’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:I bought a humongous Marquette stick welder for $100 off CL. I saw one last week on CL for $150 which someone got. They seem to get snatched up fast so you've got to keep looking for these beasts.Dave VUSMC '74-'95South Bend 9A lathe 1942Marquette stick welder, oxy/acy, FCAWBuild 7/8 scale trains
Reply:Originally Posted by automanI was wondering about those machines also, look good outside but what about inside. Being that they come from schools is that better or worse for the wear and tear?
Reply:thank you very muchpower max 45miller 180matco 160 hobart beta mig IIthermal dynamics pch 20Lincoln Idealarc tig 300/300 code 8167-c
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPHard to beat these old girls. Just seen one on Craigs list for $100.00.
Reply:I don't understand it either Supe. I did some rearranging in the tool room yesterday and had my guy take some mag wheel cleaner and the compressor and blow the crap out of a few tools and clean them up like I was trying to sell them. I didn't buy piezes of chit and I don't want them to look like piezes of chit when I pull them out to use them. I've seen $700 miter saws with overspray, silicone, glue....... all over them. Humans are the worst sort of filthy animal.Bubble gumTooth pixDuct tapeBlack glueGBMF hammerScrew gun --bad battery (see above)
Reply:Originally Posted by BurpeeI don't understand it either Supe. I did some rearranging in the tool room yesterday and had my guy take some mag wheel cleaner and the compressor and blow the crap out of a few tools and clean them up like I was trying to sell them. I didn't buy piezes of chit and I don't want them to look like piezes of chit when I pull them out to use them. I've seen $700 miter saws with overspray, silicone, glue....... all over them. Humans are the worst sort of filthy animal.
Reply:Well, sorry for your loss. If you catch the thieves we can have a party to celebrate.........the end of their.. well hell you know. I know where your at with collecting tools, quality tools that cant be replaced in a matter of a few days. You kinda get attached to them especially if you make a living with them. If your having to play catch up or start over, get what you can get to get by. If your going to start welding for a few people in your shop(you mentioned stick weld) just get a good DC machine. A lot of it comes down to preference. Do you like blue or red or whatever. Each brand welds a bit different than the other. Its like grabbing your favorite hammer with the nick in the handle. It might bother somebody else to use it but you couldn't live without it. Get a good one and get good with it.As for your school machines they usually just have a lot or very few hours on them. Mostly a lot.Arcon Workhorse 300MSPowcon 400SMTPowcon SM400 x 2Powcon SM3001968 SA200 Redface1978 SA250 DieselMiller Super 32P FeederPre 1927 American 14" High Duty LatheK&T Milwaukee 2H Horizontal MillBryan
Reply:Originally Posted by automanLets talk new machine. Are the new arc welders any good? Any recommendations? Thanks Brian
Reply:I bought this Lincoln model TIG -300/300 Came with leads tig torches and foot pedal. Now anyone in this area want to come play with it and teach and tell me what I have and so on. I am in Santa Fe, TX. 77510 I could use the help if anyone is willing. I don't have much money but can pay some. Even if you came by and looked at it and tested it and tell me what I need to get going with it. Thanks so much Brian Barkerpower max 45miller 180matco 160 hobart beta mig IIthermal dynamics pch 20Lincoln Idealarc tig 300/300 code 8167-c
Reply:Congrats on the new toys, Brian. A buddy has that same machine and loves it!  By the way, didn't mean to hijack when CEP posted that pic of the old welder, I was just floored to see what appears to be a unit I've actually used. Sorry!!!
Reply:You did not bother me a bit radi8u. I don't know if you read my introduction but I don't have much contact with the outside world anymore due to our circumstances. Conversation on hear is a nice change, kind of like having friends. No one comes around anymore because they say that can't stand to see my wife like this. Thankspower max 45miller 180matco 160 hobart beta mig IIthermal dynamics pch 20Lincoln Idealarc tig 300/300 code 8167-c
Reply:That Tig 300 is one of the best ever made ,TM -300/400/500/650 will run forever and weld,gouge 5/8 carbons do 3/8 stick ,sub arc ,add a LN -25 mig too.
Reply:I am trying to figure out how to hookup my tig torch so I can try it out. Do you have or can you draw me a diagram? It is a code 8167-c Thanks Brian my torch is weldcraft wp17 air cooled.power max 45miller 180matco 160 hobart beta mig IIthermal dynamics pch 20Lincoln Idealarc tig 300/300 code 8167-c
Reply:Well I see you got a welder. I had a vision last night and I was told you now need another one....or were they talking to me? Hell I don't remember I guess to be on the safe side I should go get another one. Keep looking, keep trading, keep upgrading, keep busy.Arcon Workhorse 300MSPowcon 400SMTPowcon SM400 x 2Powcon SM3001968 SA200 Redface1978 SA250 DieselMiller Super 32P FeederPre 1927 American 14" High Duty LatheK&T Milwaukee 2H Horizontal MillBryan