TIG Welding in the BATHROOM!

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I just gotta say the welding urge is getting strong. i got a good size bathroom with a tile floor and four foot of tile along the all the walls and on regular sized window. All the walls in apartment are firebrick covered with plaster and i am on the sixth floor. i feel I could TIG secretly Yet, I am not sure how long I could get away welding without UV light damage to the paint and tile. I intend to use fire blanket for the floor. However, i do not know what damage the tile and paint along ceiling and top half of the wall will take. Now i know they always repaint the apartment anyway. I plan to be in this apartment for the next five years. I am buying an Everlast POWERARC 140 a dual voltage machine. What problems do you guys see? Should i do this? Tell me your thoughts.
Reply:Originally Posted by yusakuI just gotta say the welding urge is getting strong. i got a good size bathroom with a tile floor and four foot of tile along the all the walls and on regular sized window. All the walls in apartment are firebrick covered with plaster and i am on the sixth floor. i feel I could TIG secretly Yet, I am not sure how long I could get away welding without UV light damage to the paint and tile. I intend to use fire blanket for the floor. However, i do not know what damage the tile and paint along ceiling and top half of the wall will take. Now i know they always repaint the apartment anyway. I plan to be in this apartment for the next five years. I am buying an Everlast POWERARC 140 a dual voltage machine. What problems do you guys see? Should i do this? Tell me your thoughts.
Reply:Originally Posted by yusakuI just gotta say the welding urge is getting strong. i got a good size bathroom with a tile floor and four foot of tile along the all the walls and on regular sized window. All the walls in apartment are firebrick covered with plaster and i am on the sixth floor. i feel I could TIG secretly Yet, I am not sure how long I could get away welding without UV light damage to the paint and tile. I intend to use fire blanket for the floor. However, i do not know what damage the tile and paint along ceiling and top half of the wall will take. Now i know they always repaint the apartment anyway. I plan to be in this apartment for the next five years. I am buying an Everlast POWERARC 140 a dual voltage machine. What problems do you guys see? Should i do this? Tell me your thoughts.
Reply:Homer Simpson moment
Reply:Why not enroll in a welding class if the urge to weld is that strong?
Reply:I also smell something fishy......zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Well sometimes people have to get by with what money they have. He might not can afford the class, or the situation he is in isn't ideal to make it to classes. He might be trying to hussle up just enough for the welder so he can play. He might also possibly live in a city apartment where there is no room to have a actual garage or shed to work out of. He might be 16 years old, just watched Water World and got the bright idea and strong urge to make sparks  HAHAHA
Reply:Anyone with half a brain would know that this is a really bad idea...I wouldn't want to be responsible for a apartment building burning to the ground.Unless of course you have renters insurance from GEICO.....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Yes I agree it is the worst and most horrible idea lol. I was just giving a possible insight into his motives on why he wants to do it in the bathroom haha.
Reply:I could certainly have seen me doing that back when I was in college with an apartment. I was running a small wood shop out of my bathroom. Had a sheet of plywood to put on the tub as a work station and ran my 12" bench bandsaw, bench top scroll saw, stationary belt sander and so on on it to do architectural models for classes. Bigger tools I ran in the living room with the dust exhaust pointed out the sliding glass doors over the small balcony the apartment had and had a dust collection system. I won't say it was the brightest idea at the time though.I'd be most worried in your case about reflected UV. Bathrooms have a ton of really shiny surfaces and reflected light will probably be a night mare. I'd also be worried some what about fumes and gasses. In theory bath fans should vent to the outside, but in reality, I've found that many times if they could get away without ducting them, they did. That or they may have several units all tied into one trunk line. Smoke fumes might cause issues in other apartments and if you set off the apartment smoke alarms. If the bath fan ties into other apartments, chances are you will set the smoke alarms off in other units, and you can probably figure they will terminate your lease for what you are doing. In complexes they usually have all the smoke alarms tied together so if there is a fire everyone knows about it and many times these go right to a monitoring station and the fire department. The FD doesn't take well to "creative" solutions that involve the potential for fire generally. You can almost bet the fire marshal will get dragged into it and things will go down hill for everyone at that point.Then there's always the issues with grinding and cutting to prep material. Hot sparks are going to eat in and pit glass, damage that will be tough to repair. Grinding cutting noise in a small room will be a nightmare even with hearing protection and that will not go over well with the neighbors. Then there's issues with the dust from grinding as well as the fire potential from sparks. People regularly set themselves on fire with grinders. Carpet and padding will light up even easier, let alone something like terry towels...Overall I just don't see this as being very practical at all. I guess under the right circumstances it might be, if you worked on tiny projects like Grumpycricket does that have no real grinding or prep, but I'd still be worried about the issues with fumes, reflected UV, and setting off the smoke alarms in a complex..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:Terrible idea at best. You going to break out the grinder in there too?
Reply:Same here Doug. Back in the early 90's,  I was doing some pretty involved gunsmithing out of my bedroom, and later a patio and small closet.Turned out the .45 I've posted many times here before out of that patio workshop. Polished a LOT of guns out of there too. If I would have had even the most primitive knowledge about TIG welding then, I would have converted my kitchen into a weld booth no question. After I had the patio it would have been a done deal. I already had a buffer, belt sander, drill press and workbench out there. It was all in my bedroom before that.Yeah, I wouldn't recommend welding in your bathroom. Not as daily practice anyways. The outlet probably won't support continuous use of the welder and if your landlord finds out, I can bet you my right hand you'll have an eviction notice taped to your door that very day.You might want to consider a storage shed that has electrical power. There still could be limitations to that tho. I worked out of one for a couple years after I gave up my shop. In my situation, the managers were ok with it tho. I don't see any harm in perhaps running a couple beads with your new TIG to try it out, but it wouldn't make a practice of using it in your apartment. This would be providing there won't be any grinding or cutting of metal indoors. That could be a bad thing. You would also want to exercise the utmost care in handling any compressed gasses if you decide to give it a whirl.Couple simple beads on a plywood surface with a clean area and a fire extinguisher nearby....... Doable.I lived in apartments almost the entire 11 years I was in Las Vegas. I know how it is man..... You gotta think outside the box. Just remember that a lot of things could go wrong and that YOU will be held entirely responsible for them if they do.That caveat said......I'll freely admit, if I was young and living in one, I would have done it IMHO of courseExpert Garage Hack....https://www.facebook.com/steven.webber.948
Reply:I did all the work on this gun out of a 6' X 10' open air patio with only hand tools and a cheap Crapsman grinder I converted into a buffer in 1995. I was about 23 at the time.If I would have had a little mill, lathe and TIG machine then, I probably would have gotten myself evicted in a big hurry Yeah, a lot can be done in the confines of a small apartment. For the record tho, welding probably isn't one of them you should....IMHO of course Attached ImagesExpert Garage Hack....https://www.facebook.com/steven.webber.948
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749 If I would have had even the most primitive knowledge about TIG welding then, I would have converted my kitchen into a weld booth no question. After I had the patio it would have been a done deal. I already had a buffer, belt sander, drill press and workbench out there. It was all in my bedroom before that.Yeah, I wouldn't recommend welding in your bathroom.I'll freely admit, if I was young and living in one, I would have done it IMHO of course
Reply:Everything about it sounds $hitty to me. The only positive is if you have a large toilet that the machine will fit to flush it.
Reply:I once spray painted a wheel rim in my sister's second floor apartment kitchen.  Too bad the tire/rim got away from me when taking it down the steps.  Bounced over a railing on the landing and took out a big plate glass window in the stairwell.  Oops.  They never charged her for it to my knowledge."USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:I know, I know...... I'm encouraging him.... I think the kitchen offers more ventilation. The very first gun I worked on, I did in the kitchen. An old 6.5 Jap I still have. I cold blued the metal parts on my kitchen table and wet sanded the stock in the bath tub. The whole place reeked of solvent for a good week afterwards. Then of lacquer when I finished the stock Welding of course is another matter entirely tho....Doable. Definitely doable. Is it the smartest thing to do?Probably not. Still, I know how it is living in an apartment and not having any room to work on anything.I watched a couple Mexican dudes put a complete set of hydraulics in an S 10 blazer right across the alley from me. Worked pretty good too.. At least until one of the suspension springs popped out from under it and went flying down the road Good times... Good times Expert Garage Hack....https://www.facebook.com/steven.webber.948
Reply:I think we have a winner of the Darwin award of the week....Of all the things I lost I miss my mind the most...I know just enough about everything to be dangerous......You cant cure stupid..only kill it...
Reply:its all good as long as you turn on the exhaust fand and close the shower curtain before u strike an arc!
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Reply:I just want to know how you are going to get your new trailer down to ground level.Jerry Attached Images30+ yrs Army Infantry & Field Artillery, 25 yrs agoMiller 350LX Tig Runner TA 210, spool gunLincoln 250/250 IdealArcESAB PCM 500i PlasmaKazoo 30"  vert BSKazoo 9x16 horiz BSClausing 12x24 lathe20T Air Press
Reply:Originally Posted by storemanI just want to know how you are going to get your new trailer down to ground level.
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Reply:I vote - weld on top of the stove - I know I would have - already has a vent hood Rebuilt a chainsaw on the kitchen table when it was -20f outside and I didn't have a shop - newspaper under it of course - I'm not "that bad" Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.uhhh, just weld outside. in your parking bay or by the dumpsters. Yeah you might need to make an extension cord to run 220v, but for tig 120v is usually fine anyway.What happens when you start a fire on the 6th floor of an apartment building...?Last edited by MikeGyver; 04-21-2015 at 07:18 PM.Welding/Fab Pics: www.UtahWeld.com
Reply:Originally Posted by DSW#1 take both the sliding glass doors off and lower it down from the balcony. #2 build it on it's side and roll it down the hall sideways on dollies. #3 build in pieces that can be bolted together after completion.You'd be amazed at what we moved where when I worked as labor with a friend who worked on xray gear. I've hauled all sorts of large heavy objects up stair weld because they don't fit in the elevator. One job we needed to get a C arm up to the 4th floor. That one required riggers. Front doors removed so they could fork lift the unit into the lobby to the atrium. Small fork lift that would fit in the service elevator and make it to the 4th floor. Remove 4th floor windows over looking the atrium and the sky lights above, Crane to come down in thru the sky lights and raise the machine to the 4th floor where the lift could grab it and set it on dollies. Remove 4 walls of the office so we could roll the machine from the main hall thru their office and 2 exam rooms to the room it needed to go into, then reassemble the machine... Riggers are your friend.... I don't even want to think about what this must have cost them to move, but it was still apparently cheaper than a new unit.
Reply:find a local makerspace
Reply:Originally Posted by ManoKai
Reply:Originally Posted by zapsteri also smell something fishy......zap!
Reply:Where you gona mount the vice? You won't have to go far to take a dump
Reply:a nice suction cup vice will stick to the bath tub..Of all the things I lost I miss my mind the most...I know just enough about everything to be dangerous......You cant cure stupid..only kill it...
Reply:This thread is too funny! Manokai nailed it lmao! I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys
Reply:Ya after reading the OP I started laughing pretty good. Mostly cuz I could see myself trying this.  Its hard when you have the welding itch, but no shop to work out of.   I was in a similar situation not long ago when I was first getting into welding, but luckly I was taking a welding course at the local community college so that was giving me my out.  Really thats what I reccomend. Just take a welding class at the local college and start looking for another place to rent with a garage.Dynasty 200DX   (2014)Millermatic 211 (2015)Optrel 864   (2014)Smith Medium duty MBA 30510 (Xmas 2014)Tennsmith 16ga 4ft finger brake (2015)Trailblazer 325 EFI and excel Thermal dynamics Cutmaster 82Miller maxtron 450
Reply:If you live in a 6th floor apartment building, there is nothing that you MUST TIG.  Pick another hobby, because to TIG properly you need to prepare material, which usually means grinding/abrasive metal-working, cleaning with flammable liquids, etc, etc.  Guitar Center has good deals on Acoustic guitars or entry-level electric guitars with 10W 8" amp cabs, this way you don't endanger yourself or others, or get kicked out of the place you call home.  It's one thing to live within your means, but trying to justify a life non-necessity by claiming "urges", well something's just not right. 1st on WeldingWeb to have a scrolling sig! HTP Invertig 400HTP Invertig 221HTP ProPulse 300HTP ProPulse 200 x2HTP ProPulse 220MTSHTP Inverarc 200TLP HTP Microcut 875SC
Reply:Well i had a lot of fun reading your responses. I have not been around in a while and wanted to "poke the beehive" for a little fun. This topic actually came up a long time ago. You will find the thread here: http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...ight=singaporeSomeone from Hong Kong took it upon himself  to start welding at home. The following is my response after finding out he was welding in his apartment.07-30-2014, 09:51 AM #7 yusaku  yusaku is online nowWeldingWeb JourneymanJoin DateJul 2014Posts81Re: Anybody else around HK?Invest in an axe and an expensive fire extinguisher that can put out chemical, electrical, and wood. You need an A,B, and C rated fire extinguisher. Have a look at this link: http://www.brkelectronics.com/faqs/o...-extinguishers You may need the axe to get at a spark that may create a fire behind the wall. My highest recommendation is that you do not weld in your bathroom. Yet, I know it is hard to find a place to weld. I am in America and I have an apartment and I rent a storage unit monthly. I do not weld in EITHER place. In fact, I do not weld at all right now. I am stockpiling clamps, power hand tools, measuring tools, safety equipment, design software, and paper blue prints for the next year or two BEFORE I start welding again. About 95% of making a welded item is cutting, bending, drilling, punching, polishing, painting, and fitting metal. The other five percent is welding. I will not tell you to not to weld in your bathroom because that may be the only place you can weld right now. Yet, be ready to deal with the fire hazard or getting evicted if your landlord catches you doing it. You taking a risk welding in your bathroom. I would just do my measurements, cutting, polishing, drilling at home. You should be able to find an alley somewhere in HK to weld. Since you have your own machine someone will let you use some garage, basement, or backyard space to weld your projects. There are always solutions if you look hard for them. Consider some other options. I am sure between you, I, and the moderators we can make it safe to weld in your bathroom or we find you a more suitable place for you to weld. I think we can do the latter. ^__^
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Reply:Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how are you going to burn down an apartment building with a 140A tig machine? I'd be more worried about the toaster oven, let alone the STOVE.I mean, yeah, it's probably not the brightest idea to come down the pike, but I don't think it's anywhere near as dangerous as, say, stick welding in the bathroom or plasma cutting in the bathroom or even grinding in the bathroom...Last edited by Kelvin; 04-22-2015 at 07:10 AM.
Reply:Originally Posted by yusakuWell i had a lot of fun reading your responses. I have not been around in a while and wanted to "poke the beehive" for a little fun.
Reply:OK guys...See how this works?Trolling... Stirring the pot...whatever you call it will not be tolerated.Suspect is in the penalty box for awhile and if anyone else out there wants to be involved in such activities the same will happen to you.It really don't take long for us to figure it out so be warned...We read everything....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.