Welding vertical Hobart 6011 5/32 rods, With a Miller Syncrowave 200

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Most of my vertical stuff has been with 3/32. Recently a farmer friend had a job for me that will require 5/32 rod,  welding 3/4 thick stuff to 1/2 thick material.Before I weld something like this I haven't welded in a long time, I take scrap from the project and practice to see how it goes. Horizontally, I used about 160 amps and it flowed well with very little undercut. Vertically it was a disaster and the metal flowed out of the weld pool like snot on a wintery day. Looks like stalactites in a cave. So I turned the amps down to about 130 and found it to go much better. Is this normal with you Pro's to see this much of a variation in amperage between horizontal and vertical? Or is my whip and pause technique too slow?Last edited by Gobysky; 01-21-2014 at 11:27 AM.Miller Bobcat 250Syncrowave  200Millermatic 252Spoolmatic 30ASpectrum 625 X-TremeMaxstar 150SVictor O/A torchesDewalt angle grindersWelded on/off for over 40 years.
Reply:I'm no expert but would short beads help.  I know my dad burns 1/8 6011 like its going out of style and runs that around 120 to 130
Reply:Well I'm no pro, and far from an expert, but WOW! That all seems so hot to me. But every machine is different. When welding vertically up hill with 6010 or 11 I run a flat bottom U. If I get in trouble I make the legs of the U longer, before coming back down for the fill on the bottom of the U. This is 5/32-inch 6010 on 6-inch pipe, 5-G. Run at 95-amps. Attached ImagesDon’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:I always turn my machine down when running vertical up with stick.JasonLincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tigThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52Miller Bobcat 250Torchmate CNC tableThermal Arc Hefty 2Ironworkers Local 720
Reply:Damn it CEP, stop making me look bad!  Your pipe welds constantly remind me that I'm only capable of  producing "cottage cheese" welds that were applied with chop sticks.    Attached ImagesLincoln Power Mig 216Lincoln AC/DC-225/125Miller  625 X-Treme PlasmaMiller 211 Forney 95FI-A 301HF 91110Victor Journeyman O/PMilwaukee DaytonMakita  Baileigh NRA Life Member
Reply:SuperArc every once in awhile the stars line up correctly for me, and I luck out. Don’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:Thanks there CEP. I'll try your good advice.Miller Bobcat 250Syncrowave  200Millermatic 252Spoolmatic 30ASpectrum 625 X-TremeMaxstar 150SVictor O/A torchesDewalt angle grindersWelded on/off for over 40 years.
Reply:A 5/32 6010/6011 rod should be ran at amperages similar to a 1/8 7018. For me, that's 120-135 range.JasonLincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tigThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52Miller Bobcat 250Torchmate CNC tableThermal Arc Hefty 2Ironworkers Local 720
Reply:I run 5/32 6010's at 120 amps for up, down and flat. On another note though, if your welding almost any kind of farm equipment, you should use 7018's. Much of it is higher carbon steel and all of it gets stressed to the max. The larger elongation factor of the 7018 really helps with steels that get that kind of a work out.