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I have been searching for a dry saw for a while. I have used the Makita with great results but it is a little out of the price range. I have been looking at the Evolution series of saws and finally made the purchase. I ended up with the Evolution Fury 2 14" multi use saw. I purchased from Amazon on Sunday and it showed up on Wednesday. I payed $199.00 with free shipping and also ordered a spare Oshlun 80 tooth blade for $64.00. The saw is extremely heavy duty with the base made out of cast and weighing in at almost 65 pounds. Clamping vise is sturdy but when cutting at a 45 Deg angle you have to hold back a 1/4" because as you clamp, the material will move forward. Also it lacks a quick release on the vise handle. The saw comes with a 32 tooth multi purpose blade which I was a little hesitant about. I am building a new welding table out of 2x3 .120 and 2x2 .120 with a 3/8" Top. I have made 12miter cuts and 2 straight cuts using 2x2 .120 and it has surprised me. Very nice cuts and as long as you go slow, you shouldn't have a problem chipping teeth. I have to cut the 2x3 tomorrow so I will add more with pictures. Just wanted to throw this out there in case someone is looking for a cheap alternative to the abrasive saw for about the same price. By the way.......5' x 4' 3/8" plate wieghts 262 lbs and it sucks moving it by yourself!!!! I did get it for $144 so I shouldn't complain. http://www.evolutionpowertools.co.uk...ion_fury2.htmlMillermatic 211 Syncrowave 180 SD
Reply:On the plate, have your metal supplier shear it down to size for you, much easier to transport and handle.I have three Evolution saws, two 7-1/4" circular saws (Steel 1 and Rage 1) and the 10" miter saw (Rage 3). I'm happy with all three saws and the Evolution products in general. I believe if I do get a 14" dry cut saw, my choice will be between the Milwaukee and the Evolution Steel 2. If I can't swing that much money, I'll likely go with the Rage 2. Some day I'll probly get their Bora 2800 mag drill as well. Should be fine for the occasional use I would be doing with it and a lot cheaper than a Hougen, Milwaukee or other quality drill.Right now though, I'm looking at Jet P85 and P150 portable band chop saws. They look like a common portable 14" circular blade abrasive shop saw or dry cut saw, but with a band saw on it instead of a circular blade. Kinda like a Milwaukee portaband but with built in pivot, base and clamp instead of using their add-on adapter table.MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:What's the maximum cut depth on the 14" ??"The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore Roosevelt
Reply:The plate was sheared to size. Just needed it for the table top. For the money I think the Fury 2 will work out. I figured at the least, I will only be out $200 if it worthless. I'm very happy with it so far. I used a Makita for a year cutting 1 1/2" DOM for work and never once had the blade sharpened or replaced. Probably ran through a couple thousand cuts. I would have preferred the Steel 2 but it was another $200 and I ended up having to have the Syncrowave repaired.Millermatic 211 Syncrowave 180 SD
Reply:The cutting depth is 4 3/4" with a 7" cutting width.Millermatic 211 Syncrowave 180 SD
Reply:Here's the link to the Jet saws I referred to above if anyone is interested in them.http://www.jettools.com/us/manufactu...39&product=886http://www.jettools.com/us/manufactu...39&product=885MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:Originally Posted by jhart242The plate was sheared to size. Just needed it for the table top. For the money I think the Fury 2 will work out. I figured at the least, I will only be out $200 if it worthless. I'm very happy with it so far. I used a Makita for a year cutting 1 1/2" DOM for work and never once had the blade sharpened or replaced. Probably ran through a couple thousand cuts. I would have preferred the Steel 2 but it was another $200 and I ended up having to have the Syncrowave repaired.
Reply:I was going to have it delivered but I live outside of their delivery area. I have a lifted F250 and I had to use a pry bar for leverage as I pulled the plate out. Used a hand truck to wheel it to my trailer. I only had 2 feet between the trailer and house, so I had to use a furniture dolly to wheel it the rest of the way. I'm going to check in on the Jet bandsaw. Nice and handy.Millermatic 211 Syncrowave 180 SD
Reply:Originally Posted by DesertRider33.... That is a very attractive price on the Fury 2. I think the Rage 2 is about $300 and the Steel 2 about $400, if I remember right. I notice very little difference between my Rage 1 and Steel 1 saws, but the price difference is only about $30 too. The Steel 1 has a slightly higher amp motor and since it is newer than my Rage 1, it had a different design to the blade guard. The newer Rage 1's are the same design as the Steel 1's.
Reply:So far as I can tell, the bodies are the same between the Rage and Steel lines. I don't have any first hand experience with the Fury line. The main two benefits of the Steel line over the Rage line are the higher output motor, and the fact that the machine comes with the steel-specific blade in it, rather than the multi-purpose blade. Once you add the cost of buying a separate steel-specific blade to the cost of the Rage line, the Steel line ends up being not all that much more money. In my case, the Rage 1, plus a 7-1/4" Diablo Steel Demon blade, was about $15 more than just buying the Steel 1, with steel blade already included. I think similar would be true with the Rage 2 and Steel 2. I'm guessing about $100 difference in price for the saw, but a quality 14" steel blade is at least $75, so the Steel 2 ends up being close in price to the Rage 2, plus the blade.Really though, if you're going to run the saw regularly, you need at least 3 steel blades to keep in rotation and have the 2 spares sharpened while you still have one good one left in the machine. Otherwise, you get caught with your pants down with a job to do and a dull blade in the saw. I have three 10" blades for the Rage 3 and five or six 7-1/4" blades for the two smaller saws. I take all the extra blades down to the sharpener service shop when I'm down to one fresh blade in each saw. Takes 2 or 3 days to get them all done and returned, since they send them out to their other out of town location for the sharpening.I think I have pretty much decided on the Jet PB 150 band chop saw. It is quite pricey, but I think it will be worth it for my specific needs. Lowest price I've found on it so far is a local place that sells it for about $925. So far, the best internet price I have found on the smaller PB 85 is about $525. The smaller saw has a comparatively small material cut size. I like the light weight, small size and lower price, but I really need something that can cut a little bigger material if I want to replace my 14" chop saw with it. The PB 150 is quite a bit heavier, though not all that much bigger, but has the cutting capacity I'm looking for. I don't need it be all that portable, but I do need the small size and some portability within the shop. It won't be going out on the truck. A regular shop-size horizontal band saw of similar cut size is cheaper, but too bulky and heavy for my needs and space limitations.In my searching so far, there doesn't appear to be anything else available that compares to either of these 2 small portable bench top band/chop saws from any other manufacturer. I think they will be a much better long term solution than attaching a Milwaukee portaband to their optional base/pivot, for use as an accurate cutting chop saw in the shop in place of the 14" abrasive saw.I don't have anything against abrasive chop saws, they are cheap, economical to operate and work great. I just have some new noise and debris considerations to deal with and I think a band saw is the best solution in this case.MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:Originally Posted by DesertRider33I think I have pretty much decided on the Jet PB 150 band chop saw. It is quite pricey, but I think it will be worth it for my specific needs. Lowest price I've found on it so far is a local place that sells it for about $925. So far, the best internet price I have found on the smaller PB 85 is about $525. The smaller saw has a comparatively small material cut size. I like the light weight, small size and lower price, but I really need something that can cut a little bigger material if I want to replace my 14" chop saw with it. The PB 150 is quite a bit heavier, though not all that much bigger, but has the cutting capacity I'm looking for. I don't need it be all that portable, but I do need the small size and some portability within the shop. It won't be going out on the truck. A regular shop-size horizontal band saw of similar cut size is cheaper, but too bulky and heavy for my needs and space limitations.
Reply:Yeah I would prefer a larger band saw, but there just is not enough space for it. I'm wondering how hard it will be to find blades and how much they will cost. It's easy and cheap to get blades for my Milwaukee Compact portaband. Home Depot and Lowe's both carry them in stock and many online places sell them cheap. The JET saws don't appear to use the same blade lengths as the Milwaukee saws. I'll probly end up getting them through the saw sharpening service shop, since they can get just about any blade made. Would be nice to have a wider variety of cheaper sources available though, especially locally.MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:The PB 150 looks like the best choice. I found one online for $799.00 but when you check out, they want $359.00 for shipping. Couldn't you just buy the weld to length blades?Millermatic 211 Syncrowave 180 SD
Reply:Wow that's a high shipping charge. What website was it?I suppose I could weld the blades to length, though I have no experience with that at all. I could experiment on hack saw blades and see how it goes.MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:Well I called and both those Jet PB85 and PB150 saws have been discontinued and are no longer available. I did run across an older topic about portable band saws and thanks to someone's post, I may be buying a similar saw made by Dayton, from my local Grainger. See other post for details.Sorry, I didn't mean to hijack the topic here about the Evolution Fury 14" dry cut carbide saw.MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op |
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