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Okay, I dont know to much about them like I (think) I do with mills and lathes.I like the accurpress brand but to expensive for new.Is there any older brands that are very reliable and still have parts for?
Reply:I take it you are looking for a powered brake.  That's the only accurpress I've seen anyway.  If you are looking at used, then look for Accurpress, Verson, or Cincinnati.  Have a Verson 60 ton x 10 ft and will not trade it, even if we get a bigger brake it will stay here.  The reliability and availability of parts are why.  The guy who does maintenance on our shear, brake, etc. reminds me every time he is here that our Verson is a keeper and follows it with a horror story about some crappy this or that he's had to fix and cannot get parts or even a manual for.BTW, all are American made
Reply:You must mean a machine like this.http://cgi.ebay.com/VERSON-60TON-X-1...item335c893b3bGood price at 6k.What are some things I should look for when looking at a machine?
Reply:Loading, shipping and setup are going to be the killers here.     i would find one near you.Vantage 500's LN-25's, VI-400's, cobramatics, Miller migs, synch 350 LX, Powcon inverters, XMT's, 250 Ton Acurrpress 12' brake, 1/4" 10' Atlantic shear,Koikie plasma table W/ esab plasmas. marvel & hyd-mech saws, pirrana & metal muncher punches.
Reply:pyro,Before I would drop hard earned coin on something that large I would have my maintenance guy take a look at it (we sub out the maintenance on the large equip).  Kinda like getting your auto mechanic to look at a potential used car buy.Some things to look for would be tooling..not cheap, so what comes with the press?  What style tooling does it take?  Who has done the maintenance?  How much are riggers (yes, you should hire this out) going to charge to get it off the truck and set in place?  Shipping to you?  Will your slab support the weight of the press?  Hope some of that helps, wrote in a hurry.
Reply:the tooling could cost considerably more than the brake.  Look to see what tooling is supplied if any as well as bolster block which supports the dies.  I ran a 70 T verson when I started my apprenticeship.  The crank bearings were shot and that gave it more than 1/8 inch slack on one end.  Definitely get someone qualified to look it over for cracks in the frame or previous repairs as well as bearing brake and clutch condition.  If the motor voltage is different than your area it can set you back for a rewind or replacement motor.
Reply:Wow, I can't believe the prices some of these machines are going for. 20 year accurpress for 40k.I am really amazed. To be honest, I just want a hydraulic 60 ton or so 6' bed. Nothing bigger.
Reply:What are your guys opinions on something like this?http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-50Ton-60-PRE...item2a0bfb0c82
Reply:I ran a Promecam that also had the bottom die moving.  For material under 1/4 inch I can see no big problems.  It does make for a cleaner and cheaper design. Be very careful about tonnage ratings.  Some are very optimistic.  If you expect to be forming 1/8th sheet say six feet wide you should have a machine that can do 1/4 inch material.  You often run into something that has a higher yield strength than mild steel and all of a sudden you can't bend it.  The same goes for stainless steel alloys.  Their ultimate strength often is not much higher than mild steel but their yield strengths are considerably higher.