Anyone know John Marcella?

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I sent John an E -Mail today an asked about some stuff about the Dynasty 350.......I have the feeling he might not return my Mail......  Miller Dynasty 350Twenty Six HammersThree Crow BarsBig Rock
Reply:You can PM him here yellowbullet.com He is a member and posts his artwork.
Reply:I did a search after posting this and discovered he is a member....thanks Bro...Hopefully he will return my message....  Miller Dynasty 350Twenty Six HammersThree Crow BarsBig Rock
Reply:I love that guys work. I wish he show more of it.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:One of the best, if not the best, aluminum tig welders out there. Great guy too.Miller Dynasty 200Millermatic 211Instagram?.... find me @ WELD_MEDIC
Reply:He posted here a few times under John Marcella but hasn't been here since Feb.Yellow Bullet is the place to catch him.
Reply:Hey BC, I read through a couple of threads on that forum and watched his Miller videos and learned a lot in general about setups, if you learn any specifics on the 350 would you mind sharing?(2) Miller Dynasty 350 (1) Miller 250x (1) Torchmate 4x4 with PM 45
Reply:Hey B C do you double dip when welding aluminum like he does?...Miller Dynasty 200Millermatic 211Instagram?.... find me @ WELD_MEDIC
Reply:Where does it say he double dips?Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Originally Posted by GambleWhere does it say he double dips?
Reply:I do double dip but only when I see that the puddle has diminished to where it needs more material to make it consistent with the rest of the weld....I noticed that on Johns video also  Miller Dynasty 350Twenty Six HammersThree Crow BarsBig Rock
Reply:Originally Posted by GambleWhere does it say he double dips?
Reply:I have sent a couple messages to Marcella, hopefully he will return them......If not no big deal I'll figure the Dynasty out in time.......  Miller Dynasty 350Twenty Six HammersThree Crow BarsBig Rock
Reply:When I had my after market Harley Speed Shop local shops would charge big bucks for what they thought were jetting secrets that shop apprentices back east used everyday in the shop they worked in and never gave it a thought.......It's that  kind of mentality that ruins the sport because when the customer that spends big bucks finds out how simple the "BIG SECRET"  was they are going to bad mouth you forever....  Miller Dynasty 350Twenty Six HammersThree Crow BarsBig Rock
Reply:One thing I've read somewhere is that he blends his own argon/helium blend via a Smith's mixer.Different ratios for different applications.I've read some of the yellow bullet posts and seems he's all top secret but there's a young guy there that is everybit as good and he tells how he accomplishes his results.The guy is awesome none the less.He posted some here but if my memory serves me well it was just to try and sell a Aerowave he was selling. One thing is fact, you can tell all your secrets but one must still properly apply it and there's absolutely no substitute for hood time.Last edited by Showdog75; 11-04-2012 at 01:53 PM.
Reply:Exactly, I know several guys that are worth Millions of dollars.......The clothes they wear range anywhere from Slacks and Rolex's to jeans and tennis shoes.... I like the jeans and tennis shoes guys myself ..........  Miller Dynasty 350Twenty Six HammersThree Crow BarsBig Rock
Reply:I called John awhile back and asked him about the blends.........He said he wouldn't tell me it was a secret......(Like I was going to open a manifold business)  lol  Miller Dynasty 350Twenty Six HammersThree Crow BarsBig Rock
Reply:You get out what you put in.......That's kinda the way I run my life.......  Miller Dynasty 350Twenty Six HammersThree Crow BarsBig Rock
Reply:Originally Posted by B_CI called John awhile back and asked him about the blends.........He said he wouldn't tell me it was a secret......(Like I was going to open a manifold business)  lol
Reply:Not sure Broham, all I know is I love to look at his stuff.......I did notice the material is SUPER clean......That is something to take into consideration....not just Aceitone or alcohol its a chemical cleaner I have a bottle but it's caustic and time consuming to use.... I just got a bottle of 50/50 Blueshield #2  Helium argon I have been using #3that is 75/25 Helium argon but seems a bit aggressive with the Dynasty.....I'm going to try the new gas tomorrow I'll report back here....  Miller Dynasty 350Twenty Six HammersThree Crow BarsBig Rock
Reply:Originally Posted by B_CNot sure Broham...
Reply:Weld engineer at my work told me you can get good results on aluminum by adding 1-1.5% hydrogen to the mix.Never tried myself.Bc you'd be a good candidate for a Smith proportional gas mixer and do your own mixing.
Reply:Adding a little hydrogen to argon for austenitic stainless makes LOTS of sense as the hydrogen turns an inert atmosphere into a reducing atmosphere i.e. actively scavenges O2 from the area. Also increases arc voltage letting you weld faster.Never heard of it being used with aluminium TIG (or MIG) as hydrogen porosity is the #1 enemy when welding ally with either of those processes i.e. hydrogen is extremely soluble in liquid ally but not in solid. Any hydrogen absorbed into the weld WILL result in gas pores
Reply:Originally Posted by Showdog75Weld engineer at my work told me you can get good results on aluminum by adding 1-1.5% hydrogen to the mix.Never tried myself.Bc you'd be a good candidate for a Smith proportional gas mixer and do your own mixing.
Reply:Originally Posted by Showdog75One thing I've read somewhere is that he blends his own argon/helium blend via a Smith's mixer.Different ratios for different applications.I've read some of the yellow bullet posts and seems he's all top secret but there's a young guy there that is everybit as good and he tells how he accomplishes his results.The guy is awesome none the less.He posted some here but if my memory serves me well it was just to try and sell a Aerowave he was selling. One thing is fact, you can tell all your secrets but one must still properly apply it and there's absolutely no substitute for hood time.I did a search after posting this and discovered he is a member
Reply:I saw his work over at Yellow Bullet a while back. His name is one I will never forget. ZTFab is another!
Reply:Well I'm very happy to report I got to talk to John Marcella this morning and we had a great visit.   The kid as I will say since he is a very young man seems like he has it going for him in his industry......We talked about the differences between the new inverters and the older transformer machines......Both agreeing there really isn't any comparison.......But it made my day......  Miller Dynasty 350Twenty Six HammersThree Crow BarsBig Rock
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonA Miller tech article states he uses a custom Tri mix for gas. http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...ng-Dynasty-350From this article;"Aesthetics are extremely important to Marcella and his customers and he has come up with a number of techniques to control coloration and weld cosmetics. Marcella affects these elements of his welds through proper tungsten preparation (he uses a 1/16-inch two-percent thoriated tungsten), a custom tri-mix shielding gas , and the improved arc starts and advanced AC TIG controls found in the Dynasty 350. "So the quest is on. What other than Helium and argon can be used for tig??????
Reply:John,when are you going to start holding tig classes so we can all weld half as well as you? Also for your manifolds and all your aluminum welding do you use a non-symmetrical AC wave form? Or just 50/50.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749Yeah, no doubt. I only live about an hour away from him.I don't think all the training in the world would change the fact that I'm just a garage hack
Reply:Originally Posted by GambleJohn,when are you going to start holding tig classes so we can all weld half as well as you? Also for your manifolds and all your aluminum welding do you use a non-symmetrical AC wave form? Or just 50/50.
Reply:John just a quick pat on the back to ya. Whenever I run into some hot shot fabricators that think they are the bomb, ill show em some pics of your works, and man does the room get quiet quick. I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys
Reply:Originally Posted by weldermikeJohn just a quick pat on the back to ya. Whenever I run into some hot shot fabricators that think they are the bomb, ill show em some pics of your works, and man does the room get quiet quick.
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Reply:John's welds, like the Z-guys', and some of others here; are at the art end of the trade.  And his advice about making the starts of the next pass visually equal to the last weld's end so the tie-in is not noticeable is right on the money.John it would be very insightful to the rest of the Forum if you'd take time to make a few remarks about your overall idea for the method of starting and stopping uniformly? If that is a trade secret? then we'll respect your privacy.One thing he said that was kind of funny was that he never brushes the material before welding, and I can see that in his case.The reason its kind of funny it the NASA-level, parts prep the pieces have already received!!! Every surface is brushed/buffed/sanded or whatever method is used so the idea of messing that 'uber-prep' with a hand brush does seem foolish.  Looks like some of the routine clean up is in an ultrasonic bath!On the other hand what was funny is that 90-95% of all fab-shop welds (not John's 'artworks') don't see the final fit and finish anywhere near his 'base line' prep.I think this goes to show all TIG hands that prep is just as important as the weld.  The skill, tooling, time and planning that goes into these works or art is topped off by the fabulously clean welds, but they're put down on prep that is equal to the welds.If that sounds redundant, think how many times one of the Z-men has made this same point here.Sure is nice to see work from one of the best. Thanks for the links to the art gallery.Cheers,Kevin MorinKenai, AK
Reply:Originally Posted by john marcellaIm not a real welder, I just do what works for me.
Reply:Originally Posted by Kevin MorinJohn's welds, like the Z-guys', and some of others here; are at the art end of the trade.  And his advice about making the starts of the next pass visually equal to the last weld's end so the tie-in is not noticeable is right on the money.John it would be very insightful to the rest of the Forum if you'd take time to make a few remarks about your overall idea for the method of starting and stopping uniformly? If that is a trade secret? then we'll respect your privacy.One thing he said that was kind of funny was that he never brushes the material before welding, and I can see that in his case.The reason its kind of funny it the NASA-level, parts prep the pieces have already received!!! Every surface is brushed/buffed/sanded or whatever method is used so the idea of messing that 'uber-prep' with a hand brush does seem foolish.  Looks like some of the routine clean up is in an ultrasonic bath!On the other hand what was funny is that 90-95% of all fab-shop welds (not John's 'artworks') don't see the final fit and finish anywhere near his 'base line' prep.I think this goes to show all TIG hands that prep is just as important as the weld.  The skill, tooling, time and planning that goes into these works or art is topped off by the fabulously clean welds, but they're put down on prep that is equal to the welds.If that sounds redundant, think how many times one of the Z-men has made this same point here.Sure is nice to see work from one of the best. Thanks for the links to the art gallery.Cheers,Kevin MorinKenai, AK
Reply:Zap, this particular weld will require a mirror.....Z-men are the robot-like welders here, Zap, Zt, Zank;  Zoose guyz. who weld like John M's manifolds.everyone else knew exactly who I was referring to, and you even stressed prep; again. Nicely done.Cheers,Kevin MorinKenai, AK
Reply:Originally Posted by zapsterProper weld prep is EVERYTHING.If you don't take the time to do it correctly then don't bother doing the job at all....zap!
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPOh God I wish I could have worked for you! Most foremen / general foremen in construction don't have a clue how to weld, so they don't understand why it takes so frikken long to do something.
Reply:After I left where I learned to weld and before I went back to where I am now my foreman came over one day and flat out asked me while I was cleaning/final fitting parts why the fuch everything was taking me so long and all I told him with a snarl was..."Do not ever tell me how to do my job when you can't even turn the fuchin' welder on."That was the first and last conversation like that....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:In my line of work, generally how you get to be foreman / general foreman is being a high balling mother f_ _ ker. They just don't get it, when it comes to welding. Don’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:I agree with Zap's statement  "if you can't spend time to do it right don't do it." (not a quote)I learned to weld on my own but learned to be a welder/fabricator from an old WWII shipyard welder who always stressed:"...the fastest way to get a job done well is to do it right the first time."  If you do it 'fast' (close enough- nail it!)  then you do it first slipshod, next; you do it again when you take it apart, and last you do it the third time when you redo what you could have done well the first time.Of course, I was young and therefore all-knowing, and bullet-proof.  But as time has gone along I find that is the gospel of good work.  This seems to be biggest limit to our countless 'newbies' here;  "having ears to hear".I couldn't (didn't) listen in my 20's but I'd encourage the newer welders - regardless of age- to take as gospel what's being said by those who make a living doing the work. That way it won't take you as long as it took me to be able to produce good work!Cheers,Kevin MorinKenai, AK
Reply:Kevin is spot on with the prep required before welding to levels like John. Go ask a painter what takes more time, prepping the part or painting the part? Same logic applies to welding.I see some people trying to weld on what would be the equivalent of a truck they just ran through the mud to a painter and then wonder why their welding looks like, well, like a truck that just ran through mud!John, you have my respect. Your work is out of this world good!http://all-a-cart.comWelding Cart Kits and accessories
Reply:Talked with Marcella yesterday and I told him I got a wireless foot controler and he said it was probably the best thing I will ever buy for the Dynasty.. It came in today and I'm gonna do some aluminum cans tomorrow so we will see how it works, kinds sucks To spend that money just because I wanna see how they work ..Lol
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749I got one with my Dynasty 350 & ill never go back to a corded control.Talk about convenient and easy...... Just pick it up & put it where you want it. Made a sheath style box to hold it on my cart too. Man, it's slick as hell. You'll love it.Now I just need some more time to figure the machine out
Reply:Sometimes weld can be part of the prep
Reply:I have a receipt for an Italian dish That I gotta give ya John...
Reply:Ok ill bite. I have no idea what you are talking about with the weld being part of the prep. If it is about prepping metal or welding, and not Italian food, please explain.