thought i would post this up my local praxair has a portafab 45 that was used in the showroom for i guess about an hour worth of cuts there selling it for cost i think 3900 i couldnt justify this machine for myself (i wish ) but figure someone else may be interested if so lemme know and ill get ya the info by the way im not affiliated with praxair nor have any vested interest in this machine just passing along what might be a good deal for someone 350P 30A spool gun cut master 51 syncro 250 other stuff " take a dog off the street and make him prosper and he will not bite you sad the same cannot be said for man" i didnt use punctuation just to piss you off