Wood to Metal verticle bandsaw

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Used a Milwaukee drill motor to power my bandsaw to reduce the speed. Worked out pretty slick.  If anyone is thinking about doing it, the rpm seems to be spot on.  Thanks for looking. Attached Images
Reply:Delta / Jet / Grizzly 14" wood bandsaw?
Reply:Cool idea, Whats the HP rating of the drill?Welding/Fab Pics: www.UtahWeld.com
Reply:Genius! What kinds of cuts have you done with the setup so far? The bonus is you'll always know where you left the drill.
Reply:It was a Jet brand 14" band saw.  It was gutted from a flood insurance claim.  It was about a three hour deal to make the plate and mount it.  I have cut tubing, plate up to 1/4 thick, stainless, all kind of stuff.  I am sure it is not for production work, but for my little shop it is what fits.  I will post some cuts when I get some more blades for it.  That is what is important, tooth count and speed.  I have got 275.00 dollars in it. It was a refurbished drill I got at the Milwaukee store in Houston.  Saw was free.
Reply:I don't want to rain on the parade because I love the creativity, but keep an eye on the front drill bearings. They are not usually built for pressure on the side. Normal use of a drill doesn't need it too beefy.If you don't want to stand behind our Troops, feel free to stand in front of them.
Reply:Originally Posted by SWellsI don't want to rain on the parade because I love the creativity, but keep an eye on the front drill bearings. They are not usually built for pressure on the side. Normal use of a drill doesn't need it too beefy.
Reply:texastrendz -  Legsforhire + The 14" Delta is the standard for KnoKov-ed vertical band-saw. Yours is white, it probably a Jet.In the late 80's I was suffering terribly, and experienced a-tool-broke-down.The Cure:I ordered a 14" Delta metal saw  -  $800.00+ wood vs. $1400.00+ metal.14" Delta Wood Saws are constant speed - 3000 sfm?14" Delta Metal Saws have a 4 belt sheave, and a back-gear, aka planetary gear box - a DMS has 8 speeds.Between the 8 speeds, and the proper blade tooth pitch selection, the Delta is the smallest real metal saw, and why it is the standard to Knokov by all imitators.Your innovation provides a test path to turn an import saw into a Delta; with a lot of room for refinement ie., pulley ratios . . . . Your thread will have legs - and there is going to be a run at used tool stores for multi-speed gear-head drills.Opusp.s.For longer than I have been alive, Milwaukie's have been the standard to judge all drills, the name is synonymous with quality.
Reply:Is that a 1630? That drill motor is sturdy. Front bearing is a 6202 (16X35X11) and the rear bearing is a 608 (8x22x7), I think. I'll bet most any fractional HP motor uses a similar 6200 series bearing on the drive end. Considering these drills are used to mix mud, turn winches and other unsavory usages for a drill motor I doubt it will be a problem for a long time, if ever. These bearings are cheap and easy to replace. A band saw is not generally a heavy loaded belt.Brushes are another story. I bet you do brushes before bearings.
Reply:texastrendzSWells has you on the ropes - pinions have pilot bearings, and drills are not mills.For longevity - a flex U-Joint, driving a sheave, between bearings on a platen - has longer legs.Opus
Reply:Originally Posted by SWellsI don't want to rain on the parade because I love the creativity, but keep an eye on the front drill bearings. They are not usually built for pressure on the side. Normal use of a drill doesn't need it too beefy.
Reply:If you have a delta type wood bandsaw and want to cut metal with it, consider putting a vfd on it to reduce the speed."The reason we are here is that we are not all there"SA 200Idealarc TM 300 300MM 200MM 25130a SpoolgunPrecision Tig 375Invertec V350 ProSC-32 CS 12 Wire FeederOxweld/Purox O/AArcAirHypertherm Powermax 85LN25
Reply:while there are several better permanent fixes out there, I like your innovation.   A friend of mine has a wood saw that is in similar condition to what you started with and this may help him make it useful without breaking the bank.
Reply:I like your creativity......and would take advantage if I had not found a Powermatic 141 bandsaw with a 2 speed gear box for 25.00
Reply:Just a brilliant way of converting saw.PlasmaCam CNC cutterLathe and Band SawClamps
Reply:Originally Posted by forhireIs that a 1630? That drill motor is sturdy. Front bearing is a 6202 (16X35X11) and the rear bearing is a 608 (8x22x7), I think. I'll bet most any fractional HP motor uses a similar 6200 series bearing on the drive end. Considering these drills are used to mix mud, turn winches and other unsavory usages for a drill motor I doubt it will be a problem for a long time, if ever. These bearings are cheap and easy to replace. A band saw is not generally a heavy loaded belt.Brushes are another story. I bet you do brushes before bearings.
Reply:I have been running this POS Harbor Freight drill for a while and have had zero issues. Attached Images
Reply:I will not be running production parts with this tool.  I have cnc plasma table to cut most parts with.  This is just to hack a piece of tube or plate quickly to get me out of a jam.   Trust me fellas, it works.
Reply:This is where I got the idea from.  I sell and service roll forming equipment.  We use the Milwaukee drill motor on all of ourseaming machines.  It seams roof panel from 20 feet to 200 feet all day long.  The only problem we have with them is the brushes in the units as previously stated.  Just simple, reliable, cheap power.  Just in case you are worried.  LOL Attached Images
Reply:I'm glad to hear it's working, and again I love the creativity (I may even attempt something similar in the future). I burned the front bearings out of a couple of cheaper/smaller drills (wire wheels cleaning rust mostly ) didn't want to see it happen to yours. This has stirred up some great ideas and options, good resource for others thinking the same. If you don't want to stand behind our Troops, feel free to stand in front of them.
Reply:Very cool ideal. I am thinking about a band saw and would like to know just what one will do as far as speed on diffrent kinds of materials. Its would be alot better than a torch. I cut alot of stuff to be machined and not haveing to work with a hard burnt edge would be good.
Reply:I've got an old cast iron Craftsman woodshop model that is just dying to be converted over to steel....if possible...POVERTY...is the Mother of InventionMillermatic 211Millermatic 140Miller Thunderbolt XLArcOne 100STS inverter w/TIGThermal Dynamics 38XL Victor Oxy/AcetyleneJancy Slugger Holemaker IIJet 5x6 BandsawNever enough time & sleep.
Reply:Dumb question.. when you bring home 10' sections of material from the steel supplier and want to cut that in half, how do you guys with normal vertical drill presses manage that cut?   There is not enough clearance between the blade and the band saw support structure to make a perpendicular cut at the five foot mark.  Cut once at an angle, then cut it again perpendicular (losing only an inch or two of raw material?)thanks, zip.
Reply:Originally Posted by zipzitDumb question.. when you bring home 10' sections of material from the steel supplier and want to cut that in half, how do you guys with normal vertical drill presses manage that cut?   There is not enough clearance between the blade and the band saw support structure to make a perpendicular cut at the five foot mark.  Cut once at an angle, then cut it again perpendicular (losing only an inch or two of raw material?)thanks, zip.
Reply:Originally Posted by zipzitDumb question.. when you bring home 10' sections of material from the steel supplier and want to cut that in half, how do you guys with normal vertical drill presses manage that cut?   thanks, zip.[QUOTE=pepi;3061941]Likewise that will not last, save the drill motor it is not a continuos run, thats is going to be toast in no time. Do not know what you have from the original design. But to do it right you would need a reducer and a large pulley Pictures are worth thousands of words, and certainly this is not the only way to do it just adding .http://weldingweb.com/images/attach/jpg.gifhttp://weldingweb.com/images/attach/jpg.gif[/QUOTE                                                                                                                                                              Have you ever stood your other saw up and saw with it and if you did how does it compare?
Reply:Now on the 15-17th blade.  It's been a solid machine guys. That is 1/2 mild on the table
Reply:How big is the shaft that those keys you made go into?
Reply:Ha. Lol.  I actually made these for my utv rack to attach some wheels.   It does look like a huge woodruff key.
Reply:texastrendzThanx for the perpetuation."Now on the 15-17th blade. It's been a solid machine guys."Is '15-17th blade' - TPI teeth per inch - or the number of bladeit took to dial in your tool?On 1/2" steel you have cut a "tight radius".  How did you do it? What is: your TPI, blade thickness, and blade depth?I want to benefit from your results.Opus
Reply:I usually run a 1/2 wide blade on a variable pitch blade.  The blade length on this machine is around 93.5 I think.  It just depends on how thick of material I am cutting.  1/2 wide is the norm usually