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Miller XMT 304 CC/CV - - what all needed for Mig or Stick welding ??

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Curious what all it would take to Mig or Stick weld with:Miller XMT 304 CC/CV(see picture below)Unit is used and "bare bones" so no torch, ground, etc.Will this run on 240v single phase ?? Is drive roller for wire an add-on for Mig welding with gas ??  Gas connects to unit or add-on ??What equipment (& est cost) would I need to invest to get it going for Mig or Stick welding ?? Attached Images
Reply:Stick is simple. You need 2 male Dinse connectors, welding cable, Stinger and ground clamp. I picked up 25' of #2 cable, a male dinse and good quality stinger last year for a bit under $100. If you shop used and keep your eyes open for deals, you can probably get away complete at $100 or so for stick.Wire, you'll need a gas cylinder if you go solid wire/gas rather than flux core, and you'll need some sort of compatible wire feeder. You have a couple options on feeders. Shop feeders and suitcase feeders, and  either type will connect to the machine either as Miller compatible 14 pin remote feeder ( typically how most shop feeders run) or a voltage sensing feeder. The wire drive/gas connection is all part of the feeder.I picked up my used Miller voltage sensing suitcase for about $500 or so. I'd say you'd be looking at $400-900 used depending on what you find, plus gas cylinder.Check with 7A749 ( Steve) here. He refurbishes used Miller feeders and does a top quality job. He may have something that might interest you.You should be able to hook that XMT up to 230v single phase, but double check the info on the machine. Miller did make a few high voltage only XMT's in the past I believe.They aren't all that common, but I do vaguely remember someone having one..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:Thanks DSW.   With right purchase of stinger & ground clamp I could have a powerful stick welder on 240v  . . . . . . (if that Miller will run on just 1 PH 240v).     Guess that's main question I need to research/resolve.Would appreciate any guru help whether this welder can run on household 1 Ph 240v.MIG - - - Already have 80 cf bottle of gas and the suitcase feeder sounds like good idea.Have a bunch of angle iron for projects, and likely need more powerful mig or stick to weld it, than my little Lincoln Weld Pak 3200.
Reply:Hello CNGsaves, unless your machine is of a special version, it is designed to be run on either 1PH or 3PH, generally there is just a slight de-rating of the output capability when it is run on 1PH.  Best regards, Allanaevald
Reply:There is a high voltage version, but not very common. Look on the back where your cord comes in, it should say the compatible input voltages. If you have the factory cord, there will be a green, white, black and red wires. Don't connect the red for single phase operation. As mentioned, you will need a feeder, personally I would use a voltage sense feeder
Reply:If you can't figure the line voltage out. Send me the complete serial number by private message and I should be able to look it up.Normally if the welder has the factory cord. tape up the red wire and use the black and white for your 240 power. Green is always earth ground.You can run it off a dryer or stove plug. just leave the neutral terminal open. sometimes marked with a W.Or have a 50  amp round ground plug installed in you work area. For new installs always use a plug with a round ground. The three flat blade crows foot plugs ( old stove plug) are not supposed to be used for new installs. New code stove and dryer plugs have three blades and a round ground. The third flat or L blade is the W neutral.
Reply:I have a 60 series feeder that I may be convinced to sell if you are interested. The feeder I run was a rebuild by 7A749.
Reply:Thanks guys for all the great information.   Walker - - I'll sure keep you in mind if I get the XMT.This is just prospective at this point, but sounds like even an older Miller XMT is very versatile.  My goal would be to have good stick welder for "heavy metal" and stronger mig when my Lincoln wouldn't cut the mustard.
Reply:Good luck. I just want to say I really like mine. (350XMT).
Reply:That is one heck of a machine. Not sure if you are starting out or what based on the questions but that is basically millers top dog machine. There is a higher amp Xmt 350 and 450 but they have the same features just more juice. Very few people need more output than the 304 can do. I have been welding on a regular basis about 25 years and have never had the need for more power than that machine has.As said above you don't need much just leads, dinse connectors, ground clamp and electrode holder. Leads they sell by the foot. You could spend hundreds if you need long ones or very little if you are going to weld right by the machine. The ground clamp and electrode holder and dinse plugs should set you back less than $100 all together. For mig welding you need a seperate wire feeder. They have bench top mounted ones and portable suitcase ones. These are going to cost more probably $500 plus for something decent used or closer to $1000-$1500 new. The mig units have the gas solenoids. A wire feeder off this machine is also going to be top notch. It will weld better than say a millermatic 252 which is a $2000+ machineI own Lincolns welder that is the comparable model to the Xmt and it runs fine on single phase 240. Pretty sure most if not all 304's will run on single phase 240 it is mainly the 350's and 450's that had some models that required three phase (most 350 are single and three phase and I think all 450s are three phase)Last edited by Drilldo; 11-21-2015 at 01:36 AM.
Reply:Originally Posted by ccawgcIf you can't figure the line voltage out. Send me the complete serial number by private message and I should be able to look it up.Normally if the welder has the factory cord. tape up the red wire and use the black and white for your 240 power. Green is always earth ground.You can run it off a dryer or stove plug. just leave the neutral terminal open. sometimes marked with a W.Or have a 50  amp round ground plug installed in you work area. For new installs always use a plug with a round ground. The three flat blade crows foot plugs ( old stove plug) are not supposed to be used for new installs. New code stove and dryer plugs have three blades and a round ground. The third flat or L blade is the W neutral.
Reply:You have the standard, low voltage machine. White wire to hot, black wire to hot, green to ground and tape off the red wire. Your good to go.
Reply:It will run on single or 3 phase. 230/460vI have extensive experience with the 350 with stick and mig (12rc feeder). They are nice welders. The XMT 450 is 3 phase only like was stated.JasonLincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tigThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52Miller Bobcat 250Torchmate CNC tableThermal Arc Hefty 2Ironworkers Local 720
Reply:Not certain about XMT 304's but the XMT 350's came with either Dinse OR Tweco panel mount connectors. No big deal either way. If all your other connectors are Dinse you can just use an adapter or take the cover off and change the panel mount. Terry
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