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So, after weld tests, two physicals and two drug tests the company I did these for tell me my job has been put on hold, the day before I sign on. Is this a normal thing to happen? Kinda upset me cause I had put in my notice and everything, per the new company, at my old job. Sorry, guess I'm just venting. Why tell me I've got the job only to tell me they don't know when I can start?
Reply:The world is a goofy place. Businesses have things to deal with too. Why wouldn't you be able to stay on with your current job?
Reply:That sucks. They should have had an inkling that something was amiss and not let you give notice."USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:Had that happen to me last month You have to  have contingency's like never burn the bridge behind youstill sucks tho good luck on the next one .trailblazer 302thunderbolt ac dc machine Hobart fluxcoreAHP tig 200x 2015
Reply:That def does suck. If you get screwed from you old job, maybe look into qualifying for unemployment if this new job drags thier feet too longDynasty 200DX   (2014)Millermatic 211 (2015)Optrel 864   (2014)Smith Medium duty MBA 30510 (Xmas 2014)Tennsmith 16ga 4ft finger brake (2015)Trailblazer 325 EFI and excel Thermal dynamics Cutmaster 82Miller maxtron 450
Reply:Ima try and talk to my store manager and see if he can and will throw me a bone by keeping me on. I guess that's life though. Back to the drawing board fellas. Ima update my resume with my new certs and send that to every company I can.
Reply:Were the tests done specifically for the new company?
Reply:Yeah, I did both my weld tests at the company fab shop. Then they sent me to two physicals and both a hair and urine drug test.
Reply:2 drug screens? this company is mighty careful. what are they building that they want to be extra sure you're squeaky clean?i.u.o.e. # 15queens, ny and sunny fla
Reply:A hair sample, that actually required both armpits shaved and a urine sample. Without giving it away it's stuff for the railroad. Just in case someone happens to but the pieces together. Haha.
Reply:It happens, here in South Texas Fracking Companies were hiring to meet demand then  oil prices dropped some guys showed up to orientation only to be told they had no job.
Reply:I hope I catch a break soon. Retail work has killed my people side.
Reply:I had a very similar occurrence once in a galaxy far far away. 2 interviews, passed drug test / physical, shook regional managers hand, fitted for uniforms, even watched safety films for a few hours. When I came back the next morning the super met me at the door looking a little green and squeaked out "hiring freeze". Could be a couple of weeks or maybe a month or two or three or ten.  I said well, hmm......I got a call back a couple of months later, but I declined. I did end up getting a check for $41 about 6 months later.
Reply:Originally Posted by docwelder2 drug screens? this company is mighty careful. what are they building that they want to be extra sure you're squeaky clean?
Reply:That's kinda what the lady told me, week or two, maybe several months. I guess only time will tell. When I first got the news I was pretty upset but hey, what ya gonna do about it, ya know?
Reply:Apparently hair tests are all the new rage.
Reply:Originally Posted by FlashedIma try and talk to my store manager and see if he can and will throw me a bone by keeping me on. I guess that's life though. Back to the drawing board fellas. Ima update my resume with my new certs and send that to every company I can.
Reply:That's just it, I can't think of what it could be I did. Then again maybe hiring was actually put on hold from higher ups. Who knows.
Reply:My question is why do you think you can't continue working the job you are still on? You got to be a big screw up for that to happen.
Reply:Well I already had put in my notice per say the company. My boss at my retail job wasn't so happy to hear about me leaving. I haven't spoken to him yet about retracting my notice, so I don't know what he will actually have to say.
Reply:If you are of any use at all to the company I can't see it being an issue.
Reply:Originally Posted by FlashedWell I already had put in my notice per say the company. My boss at my retail job wasn't so happy to hear about me leaving. I haven't spoken to him yet about retracting my notice, so I don't know what he will actually have to say.
Reply:It shouldn't be, sir. Just thought I had finally gotten out of the hell which is retail work and into my career.
Reply:The world we live in now I suppose. Sorry to hear about your friend. That would be horrible to tie up 16 weeks into something only to get railroaded out of graduation. Pun intended??
Reply:Originally Posted by FlashedApparently hair tests are all the new rage.Originally Posted by outdoortThat def does suck. If you get screwed from you old job, maybe look into qualifying for unemployment if this new job drags thier feet too long
Reply:The tests you passed aren't transferable to another job if they were done specifically for the company that gave them.
Reply:Originally Posted by PipelinerI had a very similar occurrence once in a galaxy far far away. 2 interviews, passed drug test / physical, shook regional managers hand, fitted for uniforms, even watched safety films for a few hours. When I came back the next morning the super met me at the door looking a little green and squeaked out "hiring freeze".
Reply:Find another job. Stuff happens.http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=welders&l=Virginia
Reply:Originally Posted by old-iron-habitHair sample testing is common in lots of industry now.  Cocaine will show positive up to ten years after using it in hair samples. Some states are trying to outlaw hair testing for cocaine because it will show up in your hair simply if you are near a person burning crack, even if you did not use it yourself.
Reply:Originally Posted by mikecwikIf you are of any use at all to the company I can't see it being an issue.
Reply:Originally Posted by AFFENDEi would be interested to see the sources on that 10 year.  Hair grows (on average) 0.5" per month and the national standard for a hair test is 1.5" from the root end which gives a 3 month look back period.  For 10 years of look back, the hair sample would have to be 60" long.  Also, national standards require the lab to look for the substance AND its metabolites (which are formed INSIDE the body as the original substance is broken down) for a positive result.  They are also required to wash the sample first.  Hair testing is used to see chronic use as single uses dont leave enough trace evidence to detect ... it also takes 5-10 days after chronic use for the hair containing the substance to grow above the scalp far enough to be collected.
Reply:I work for a railroad, business is down for all of us and the railroad is quick to shed headcount via furlough when times get tough.-Robert
Reply:Originally Posted by old-iron-habitWhat they told us was that it can detect a habitual cocaine user ten years later. They also said that if you are around crackheads that are burning it it can show up short term. Don't know much about drugs and have never had to try to fool a test so I can only go by what they told us.
Reply:Originally Posted by old-iron-habitWhat they told us was that it can detect a habitual cocaine user ten years later. They also said that if you are around crackheads that are burning it it can show up short term. Don't know much about drugs and have never had to try to fool a test so I can only go by what they told us.
Reply:What kills me is the random "some drugs*" screenings (this is an insurance company thing, for the record, which is a big reason it doesn't have to make sense but companies do it anyways).If someone has been with the company and excelling at their job for a long time, why in the world would a positive drug test be a reason to let them go?  If you didn't have special cause to investigate (an accident, poor performance, or behavioral issue) why would it matter if the person is using something?  It demonstrably is not affecting their employment if you DIDN'T HAVE SPECIAL CAUSE TO INVESTIGATE.The world in which we live, indeed.*I say "some drugs" because only some are a "problem."  You can take OTC or doctor-prescribed schedule drugs, and you can smoke tobacco or drink all the alcohol you want, and those are fine.  Smoke or drink the wrong thing, and now it's an issue.  People are weird about chemicals, and this is a biochemist talking (writing) for the record.Outrunning my headlights since '81.
Reply:Originally Posted by old-iron-habit... They also said that if you are around crackheads that are burning it it can show up short term. ...
Reply:Originally Posted by Rick Finsta It demonstrably is not affecting their employment if you DIDN'T HAVE SPECIAL CAUSE TO INVESTIGATE.
Reply:The reason I was given for them asking for both when I went to work for the railroad was more or less to see if you're lying. We've got a guy that put down that he smoked weed 6mo before the interview and he got hired as the drug test matched what he said.Once you're hired at the railroad you can get high as a kite provided you call the help line and ask to go to rehab. I've heard some guys going to rehab four and five times once they were on...-Robert
Reply:Get use to that in this industry. Test your a33 of, promised the sun and moon. Engineers decide to dump contract...your new job goes with it. keep your options open. Always have contingencies .Miller TrailBlazer 251Miller HF-250-1Miller MaxStar 150 STLHyperTherm PowerMax 380 plasmaLincoln PowerMig 180Millermatic 252Miller Diversion 180
Reply:Originally Posted by FlashedSo, after weld tests, two physicals and two drug tests the company I did these for tell me my job has been put on hold, the day before I sign on. Is this a normal thing to happen? Kinda upset me cause I had put in my notice and everything, per the new company, at my old job. Sorry, guess I'm just venting. Why tell me I've got the job only to tell me they don't know when I can start?
Reply:Well guess I should post a sitrep, still nothing. I called them last week to check in and let them know I've gotten more certs since my interview. The lady told me she doesn't know when or if she will get the "green light" to call me back in.
Reply:A) you dont owe them any favors.B) they certainly didnt do you any favors.C) they arent the only place to work.Go find a job, and stop waiting on them.  the longer they wait to call, the less chance they actually will call.  Dont hold your breath for them, you will pass out long before they call.PM me the company ... i used to live in SW, VA .... but i got tired of crappy jobs in the SE ... moved west for better stuff.AWS CWI xxxx21711968 SA200  Originally Posted by WelderMike  I hate being bipolar, It's awesome.
Reply:PM sent. The job hunt continues. I'm hoping I get some calls or news after new years from any of the multiple companies I've sent my info to.