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Anyone have any pics of a saferoom lock system. I recall padlocks under covers where no torch or saw could reach? thanks
Reply:You talking safe or safe-room ? one locks from the outside, the other from the inside..MillerMatic 252, HTP 221 w/cooler, Hypertherm PM45, Lincoln IdealArc 250 AC/DC"I'd like to believe as many true things and as few false things as possible"
Reply:Around here the saferoom with the locks on the outside is called jail.http://saferoom.com/Last edited by Meltedmetal; 08-27-2014 at 07:10 PM.
Reply:Just seemed saw and torch proof padlocks would be on the outside.  You're supposed to trust the people on the inside.MillerMatic 252, HTP 221 w/cooler, Hypertherm PM45, Lincoln IdealArc 250 AC/DC"I'd like to believe as many true things and as few false things as possible"
Reply:Originally Posted by coxey2. I recall padlocks under covers where no torch or saw could reach? thanks
Reply:"Cocked and locked" is a better defense then simply locked.Sure, one can lock themselves in a room and "feel" safe hoping a good guy with a firearm comes to their rescue, or one can learn how to properly defend themselves with a firearm and make any room they walk into a safer place to be.  GarLincoln Electric, Power MIG 256Hypertherm Powermax 45 Miller Dynasty 280DXSmith O/A torchGenesis of a welding table
Reply:Originally Posted by Gar"Cocked and locked" is a better defense then simply locked.Sure, one can lock themselves in a room and "feel" safe hoping a good guy with a firearm comes to their rescue, or one can learn how to properly defend themselves with a firearm and make any room they walk into a safer place to be.  Gar
Reply:nothing wrong with a safe room..mine has a few firearms and a few rounds of ammo in it..some food, water, etc..
Reply:these rooms are pretty safe and have no padlocks and are electrically operated from a secure location. the doors have 2 options. steel or one and half inch thick lexan. all have firing ports for added security. Attached Imagesi.u.o.e. # 15queens, ny and sunny fla
Reply:Nice heavy duty door on a "safe" room? Is 17" of cast armor plate designed to stop 16" naval gun fire heavy enough? If you need something a bit lighter, how about 8" thick on the armored deck. If that doesn't work you can always shoot back at them....No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:Which Battle ship is that ,I always thought the turrets were more square?
Reply:Safe rooms have multiple uses you know.  A 45 isn't going to slow down a tornado.
Reply:Originally Posted by rlitmanSafe rooms have multiple uses you know.  A 45 isn't going to slow down a tornado.
Reply:Originally Posted by gxbxcWhich Battle ship is that ,I always thought the turrets were more square?
Reply:now yaw, stop clowning and help me out. I need something like a dynamite/ explosive box but indoors to use as a safe room. Any ideas? Here's a weld pic to pay you all for the pics.Attachment 822941
Reply:We still don't know what you are trying to build,(A room with a steel door ,A vault with concrete and steel walls and steel door , Arms room , or the place Jody Foster hid in, A bullet proof control room?)
Reply:When did jody hide in  a room? What movie was it? Arms room is what we need? A large hinged door with some sort of lock on the outside that would make it hard to get into. Here's another pic for early payment for the ideas.Attachment 830881
Reply:Originally Posted by coxey2When did jody hide in  a room? What movie was it?  ]
Reply:My safe room above the garage has one layer of cardboard on the studs and black plastic as a cover.  But there's a loaded 12 gauge pump hanging on the wall on the inside (my side)."USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:Like so? Attached Images
Reply:Attachment 831531Thanks guys, finally got some good ideas on how to fabricate a cover for the lock. All of you clowns take note... Bet you guys are still welding flat with a 6010.
Reply:Have two locks. A dummy lock that will last long enough for you to find your gun, and a hidden one. Mount the dummy lock on the door in plan sight, maybe build a barrel  style lock on the out side of the door frame  that slides into the door. Kinda like a safe door . Then you can have some type of cover over the lock, fake light switches or some sort. You could even move the lock a couple feet from the door if it's resesed  into the wall.
Reply:Ok if you broke that dozer blade you don't need a safe room , who would mess with you!
Reply:O He would need a Good safe room when the owner found him .
Reply:A vault room is on my list of wants for my next house.  It will be sold to the SO as a storm shelter/safe room.  So I guess it will be dual purpose.My name's not Jim....Too bad someone burned the house down.
Reply:Lemme dig up some pics.. I'll post backTeach Ag Mech - Mike At Home:Lincoln Electric AC225Miller Challenger 172Gas AxeWork:eclectic bunch of 90's vintage blue boxes
Reply:I want the pot caveTim Beeker.
Reply:Small safe but you could easily scale it up. I don't have any others of that one as it was a student project and the rest of the build went to shizz. My first attempt at a strong box looked something more like this. The American 1500 series lock is pretty much as strong as it gets onc  it's all closed in. The physical size of the lock keeps the mechanism from turning keeping internal bolts from moving. I really like the way the first(my second) mechanism works because there is a lot less machine work involved. I pretty much reverse engineered a champion safe after beating my head against the wall on the first rotating design.Teach Ag Mech - Mike At Home:Lincoln Electric AC225Miller Challenger 172Gas AxeWork:eclectic bunch of 90's vintage blue boxes
Reply:That is pretty cool, I did not know that kind of lock existed! I have been throwing around ideas in my head to one day built a much heavier duty gun safe for myself and possibly insulating it somehow for fire resistance too.
Reply:I had though of a puck lock but couldn't think of a good latch system  ,I think he nailed it
Reply:If you've ever seen a mobile mini rental container, I borrowed some ideas from them. It's the first time I had seen a puck lock. If it can work on a sea van door I can't see why it wouldn't work on a safe room door. Also if you make the mechanism accessible from the inside you could always make a disconnect to open(or lock) the doors from inside.Teach Ag Mech - Mike At Home:Lincoln Electric AC225Miller Challenger 172Gas AxeWork:eclectic bunch of 90's vintage blue boxes
Reply:That sounds like a very good idea. thanks Originally Posted by JoshNvegas72Have two locks. A dummy lock that will last long enough for you to find your gun, and a hidden one. Mount the dummy lock on the door in plan sight, maybe build a barrel  style lock on the out side of the door frame  that slides into the door. Kinda like a safe door . Then you can have some type of cover over the lock, fake light switches or some sort. You could even move the lock a couple feet from the door if it's resesed  into the wall.
Reply:The problem with bullets and bullet proofing is that there is no bullet you cannot stop, and no bullet proofing that you cannot shoot through. That is the ultimate wisdom of the universe. Solid metal is no match for Teflon isolated tin rounds. The thick metal bullet proofing, becomes the sun like temperature explosive material. The tiny round turns heavy metal into a molten explosive. That super heats the air and causes an effect similar to the effect pyrolysis causes in a tire. It simulates the exploding air compressor accident. War machines are kind of like a musket war, if everyone agrees to line up and die in an orderly fashion it is great both sides will loose perhaps hundreds of thousands of lives, in some far off theater. But if someone decides to think outside the box, oh my God. That being said I am partial to multiple walls of thin titanium, and aluminum, with aluminum honeycomb and titanium honeycomb between them. The honeycomb increase the velocity of expanding gases and actually cools them off. Taking away the trick Teflon and tin rounds ability to take out the area with one shot. Those rounds will enter and blow the sheet metal off, but you will be around to fight another day.                       Sincerely,                            William McCormick
Reply:Originally Posted by teachagmechIf you've ever seen a mobile mini rental container, I borrowed some ideas from them. It's the first time I had seen a puck lock. If it can work on a sea van door I can't see why it wouldn't work on a safe room door. Also if you make the mechanism accessible from the inside you could always make a disconnect to open(or lock) the doors from inside.
Reply:Originally Posted by teachagmechSmall safe but you could easily scale it up. I don't have any others of that one as it was a student project and the rest of the build went to shizz. My first attempt at a strong box looked something more like this. The American 1500 series lock is pretty much as strong as it gets onc  it's all closed in. The physical size of the lock keeps the mechanism from turning keeping internal bolts from moving. I really like the way the first(my second) mechanism works because there is a lot less machine work involved. I pretty much reverse engineered a champion safe after beating my head against the wall on the first rotating design.
Reply:Having lost the keys, or forgotten to make arrangements, to get keys or key cards, and passcodes, to tool boxes, machine rooms, buildings, supply rooms, work areas, tool rooms, banks, court houses, elevators, document storage facilities, and trucks and cars, over the years. I have concluded that nothing is impossible. To give you an idea of how crazy security is about not really being able to stop anything. We used be able to get into a bank in a high rise, by activating the automatic door releases, controlled by the fire alarm system, just to work or check equipment. They are so afraid of that, that their security people actually disabled that safety feature.  A friend of mine a lawyer and business owner rather handy fellow, took possession of a safe from an estate. He and his friends worked on it for a while. He brought it over and I opened it while it was on the back of his truck. I just knocked the lockset off into the safe. And opened the handle. It took me under five minutes. Some expensive estate safes have glass plates, that once broken keep the pins from retracting. They are a little tougher. Years ago they used to fill a safe with oxygen and acetylene by setting the torch to a perfect burn, and putting the tip against the crack in the doors. Then they would get below grade or behind a sturdy structure and throw a hammer at it. I would not recommend that. I have seen a torch relight by itself. Ha-ha I was holding a torch that relit by itself, it blew me backwards and out of the garage one 4th of July. I was filling the biggest lawn and leaf bag on earth. Ha-ha.                       Sincerely,                            William McCormick
Reply:What I like about your design? It is that, it deters the would be thief. Someone that might have been tempted or goaded, prodded into taking something easily. This will add a serious twist to a casual swipe. If he gets caught breaking into that, he is busted, if he just picks up a tool and walks away it could just be a mistake. A lot of gang boxes today only get one lock put on. Sometimes because the other one is missing, or it fell into the box and nobody wants to remove 300 pounds of tools to find it. If you are caught lifting up one side of a gang box, I am not sure that is a crime. I would just say "I needed a screw driver I thought it was jammed".                       Sincerely,                            William McCormick
Reply:http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/...pswv9ktymg.jpgThat big long sturdy handle is prettyBut in real safes, they have short and weak handlesI have one with cast hollow brittle pot metal handles, so forcing the handle will not damage the lock mechanism, it will just break off.Why is it that  forklift drivers smash off the handles of everything they move ?
Reply:Originally Posted by 12345678910http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/...pswv9ktymg.jpgThat big long sturdy handle is prettyBut in real safes, they have short and weak handlesI have one with cast hollow brittle pot metal handles, so forcing the handle will not damage the lock mechanism, it will just break off.Why is it that  forklift drivers smash off the handles of everything they move ?
Reply:Originally Posted by 12345678910I have one with cast hollow brittle pot metal handles, so forcing the handle will not damage the lock mechanism, it will just break off.
Reply:Mag locks. That is all i shall say.
Reply:There was a fur coat warehouse here on the Island. It was well alarmed, had big steel gates you would think it would be tough. They backed a box truck into and through a cinder block wall, jumped out from the back of the truck grabbed over $100,000.00 in furs before the alarm went off. There was a cop right there he heard the alarm go off and by the time he found the entry point they were long gone. Security is a magic act, mysticism.             Sincerely,                    William McCormick
Reply:If someone wants something bad enough, they'll get it. Most security systems keep honest people stay honest.Teach Ag Mech - Mike At Home:Lincoln Electric AC225Miller Challenger 172Gas AxeWork:eclectic bunch of 90's vintage blue boxes