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Is it worth $75.00 without a power cord?  I figure I could get some 8-3 extension cord (about 25 ft) & put it on there for power.Gonna go pick it up this weekend, guy said it needs a new tip & the nozzle for the gun.  I'll give it some power & make sure everything is there to run, then do some testing.  Have a new friend that is gonna hook me up with some argon/c02 for my Hobart, may move it over to this one to test.I downloaded the manual from the Lincoln site, so I already have that.  Also have the hood, gloves, sleeves/apron/jacket & lots of spools of flux core.If I have problems with it, I'll give a shout.  Me & 'lectricity are like oil n water.Here it is: http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/for/1103706503.htmlMarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:Hell yes. Hope you already bought it, or it will be gone.Lincoln 175HD Miller AC/DC ThunderboltSmith AW1, Dillion (Henrob) Mark III, & Smith LittleTorch
Reply:wow, 75$! bet he'd even take 50! what a steal!
Reply:It's just missing the plug?Stop off and get a plug (standard NEMA 6-50P, about $10-$15 retail) and go try it out!  $75 is a steal if it works and all it needed was a plug!  The best laid schemes ... Gang oft agley ...
Reply:Well to put it in perspective, I paid about $800 for mine when I bought it not all that long ago... maybe 6 years ago? Works as good as the day I bought it. I'd buy a second for $75!
Reply:I figure even if it needs some work, there is a Lincoln dealer here in town, my buddy could probably troubleshoot it & if it cost me $400 to repair it, I've still got a deal.Then I have a welder for my son.  The following week, I'm going to Gilbert AZ for a Oxy/Act regulators/hose/torch set up (brand new) for $100.  Don't remember what the make is, but I think it's a Victor.  And it's never been used, only unboxed, then put back in the box.MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:Did you get it? Good deals don't last long on Craigslist.Lincoln 175HD Miller AC/DC ThunderboltSmith AW1, Dillion (Henrob) Mark III, & Smith LittleTorch
Reply:I go Saturday to pick it up.  I'll know more once I get it home.  I've already made arrangements to call him when I get to his town.MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:Originally Posted by MarkBall2I go Saturday to pick it up.  I'll know more once I get it home.  I've already made arrangements to call him when I get to his town.
Reply:Great find Mark.  I hope he holds it for you until Saturday.  Don't forget to ask him if he has the aluminum and/or innershield welding kit(s) for it.MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:At this price, I think that would almost be too much to ask.  He did say his dad bought a bigger MIG & agreed with the suggestion he took the power cord off the little one & put on the big one.I would settle for the regulator & hose, would be thrilled with a gas mix tank too..............  Prolly would cream my jeans if I had the aluminum kit with it or a spool gun.I'll let ya know what comes with it when I pick it up.MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:The new Baby is home!!!!  And it needs some work.1.  A new liner or just a new gun/innershield set up.  2.  A new plug has been installed.3.  It needs a few new screws in the motor drive, it spins easily though.  I can feel the wire feed motor turning when I spin the phillips head screw that holds the wire roller.  4.  I need the washers/spring to hold the roll of wire on it.5.  Blow the dust out of it.  Looks like grinding dust & some old blown in insulation.6.  A new power cord.  This one is 12 gauge, not 10/3 or better.Now a few pictures: Attached ImagesMarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:The innershield liner has a couple bad kinks in it.  I don't think I can straighten them enough to work without causing lots of problems.  The photo makes it look blue, but it's not.  It's a wrapped steel liner.It was pretty dusty on the inside.  Power cord was original I think, it's about 9 ft long.  Sheath says 10/3, but the wire measures 12 gauge when I stripped the wires back a little bit for the new plug.Green wire connects to chassis ground, other two go to the switch area.  I wired the plug Black/White to the lateral blades, the green to the center ground.  I'm pretty sure that's how a new plug would work.  And I don't think it's the original cord.  My Hobart power cord is only about 4 ft long with a molded plug.Haven't plugged it in yet, don't have the right liner/gun, so don't want to screw something up before applying 220 Volts.Last batch of photos of the inside:  (sorry for the fuzzy photos, need more beer) Attached ImagesMarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:Total cost so far:Welder = $75.00Fuel for truck = $60.00Roll of wire & plug/tips = $85.00 (got a couple other things too).Total = $220.00Expected repair cost budgeted = $200.00  Items needed:1.  Gun/Innershield set up (will get used if I can find them),2.  Gauge/Regulator Hose for shielding gas,3.  Wire spring/nut to hold spool on,4.  0.30 wire roller (the one on it is 0.35 & replacements should come in pairs)5.  Various screws on the roller assembly.  Someone put 2" long screws in it to hold the wire guides.  That's gotta change.  It looks Afro Engineered (or what we would do on the farm to get it to work).I figure $400-$450 should be an acceptable price for a 220 Volt Lincoln GTAW welder.MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:Originally Posted by MarkBall2...I figure $400-$450 should be an acceptable price for a 220 Volt Lincoln GTAW welder.
Reply:I fat fingered that one.  Was thinking the correct terminology (should have just put MIG in there), but didn't type it.RATS even!!!I may try to swap liners tomorrow, toss on a small spool of flux core & give it a try.  Then post more pics of stuff I may need to make it right.MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:I may have some spare parts for that machine. I will have to check in my toolbox. Tomorrow is Easter, so I may not be online here. Oh, heck, you know I will be....Hope you get it up and running. Your tank has 2000psi of Airgas Steelmix in it now. Later,JokerLincoln Power Mig 210MP MIGLincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-PullLincoln TIG 300-300Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v  Thanks JLAMESCK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cupThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101My brain
Reply:That's more pressure than I had when I first bought it.  I think it only had 1K in it.  Never could get the old Hobart to work right with gas, til this last year.  Found out I didn't have the gun pushed all the way into the block & no gas was coming through.  Finally fixed it & then no gas, so Hobart is set up to run Flux Core.Reading the manual on this one, to run flux core, I need a different "gas diffuser" on the gun.  One without ports to protect the "????????" from spatter.  Don't know why that is, but I'm going to set it up to run gas, but to test, I have a small roll of flux core I can run.  I need to get some parts for it.  A couple thumb screws, a plastic spindle for the 8" wire spool, the wire spool spring & wing nut & various other small parts.  I figure for a test I can use the small flux core, then just collect parts & fix it so it's as good as new.  My son has a birthday in November, I can ship this to him for a birthday present - if he is in welding school.  If not, well I have two different welders I can play with.MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:Reading the manual on this one, to run flux core, I need a different "gas diffuser" on the gun. One without ports to protect the "????????" from spatter. Don't know why that is, but I'm going to set it up to run gas, but to test, I have a small roll of flux core I can run.
Reply:I think I saw a fluxcore tip for the Lincolns at Home Depot, but  maybe it wasr Harbor Freight. Of course you can also order them online.Last edited by smyrna5; 04-12-2009 at 01:10 PM.Lincoln 175HD Miller AC/DC ThunderboltSmith AW1, Dillion (Henrob) Mark III, & Smith LittleTorch
Reply:Well, it lives.  I changed the liner, had to shorten it about an inch (followed instructions in the manual). Plugged it in and low & behold IT LIVES!!!!!!!! Ran the Innershield wire through the gun & shut it off.Put a new tip on, & cut the wire to length. I noticed the tip is flush with the nozzle, wonder if the nozzle is the right size? I'll post some pics in a bit.I changed a couple screws to allen headed screws on the feed drive. These screws had been replaced with 8-32 2 INCHES LONG!!!! that stuck out quite a distance from the housing. Home Depot had some 8-32 Allen headed screws 1/2" long. These hold the wire guides in just fine. Although I didn't have the correct size allen wrench, a #10 Torx fits fine.I replaced the thumb screw holding the gun in the gas block. It had a 1/4" countersink headed screw in it. It held fine, but it wasn't what is supposed to be in there. So I now have a thumb screw holding the gun in the gas block. Everything is snug tight & looks good.While I had the welder plugged in, I ran a couple beads. I have some 1", 1/8" thick strap I run some beads on to set the Hobart. On the Hobart, if I run tap 2, wire speed at 5, I burn through. Turn it to tap one, same wire speed - it's just right. Hobart can lay some wire pretty quick.Looking at the chart, it said Tap C, wire speed 3. WOW, that was cold. I had to stay still to get a puddle to form. I turned the tap to F, wire speed to 8 & it started running better. I still didn't have to move real fast with it, but it sparkles ok.Well, I know it runs, so maybe I did a get a good deal. I don't think the guy that sold it to me did all the mods, I think it was a previous owner. This guy didn't strike me a someone that would Mickey Mouse repairs. I can tell this thing doesn't have the power output the Hobart has, but it should be ok for my son to learn with.MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:Pics1.  Wire Feeder, first pic2.  Wire Feeder, second pic3.  Wire Feeder, third pic4.  Previous spool holder & new wire feed screws5.  Gun with liner replaced & new tip Attached ImagesMarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:1.  Innershield spool.  Don't have the spool adapter to run the 8" spool, will have to get one.2.  Here is what I was talking about regarding the tip3.  Another tip shot, a bit fuzzy, but different angle4.  Last tip shot5.  Settings I had to use to get it to sparkle correctly on the strap.  I'll hook up the Hobart & run a couple beads on the strap, then run the Lincoln on the strap also.  Just to see the difference. Attached ImagesMarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:Last one is the inside of the wire feed compartment.  I store my tips & a couple allen wrenches in it, in case it needs any repairs.I also need a spool spacer between the spool & wing nut.  What I'm using now is a water bib packing.  Doesn't really fit the threaded area, but with the washer on, it doesn't want to pull through.Think I got a good deal for $75.00?  With repairs, I have about $80.00 in it.  Had the tips, needed the smaller spool & it came with the metal liner.  I still have the nylon/teflon liner on my bench. Attached ImagesMarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:Wish the door had a latch on it like the newer ones.  Wonder if I could buy one & dremel a square hole to put the latch in?  That would keep it closed when moving it around.  Then make a new cart.My idea is to build a cart that allows room for a Tombstone at the bottom, Hobart on the left, Lincoln on the right (doors open on opposite sides).  Then get somebody to find me a bigger Argon/CO2 tank than my little 20 CF tank.  Maybe even have enough room to have an Oxy/Acetylene tanks mounted to it?  Or would that be too much?Hmmm, the possibilities.MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate BuildThat nozzle is a gas nozzle, you are correct.I have the fluxcore nozzle if you want it. Let me know.It's yours for the taking.A well placed magnet will hold that door closed just fine. But if you want to put a newer latch on, I would like to see it. JokerLast edited by Joker11; 04-12-2009 at 07:23 PM.Lincoln Power Mig 210MP MIGLincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-PullLincoln TIG 300-300Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v  Thanks JLAMESCK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cupThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101My brain
Reply:Never thought of a magnet, was at Home Depot today, but didn't see anything that struck my fancy.The Flux Core Nozzle is longer?  If you aren't using it, I could put it to use.  The Hobart uses the same one gas or flux-core.  And it's just a slip fit, not screwed on like the Lincoln.What time do you get off work?  I'm usually there til around 5 or so.MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:I am on call 24-7, my hours vary. But normally 8-5. My daughter and son both have ball tomorrow at 5pm.I will call ya.And I guess everyone would be better served if I moved this to a PM from now on.Lincoln Power Mig 210MP MIGLincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-PullLincoln TIG 300-300Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v  Thanks JLAMESCK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cupThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101My brain
Reply:Three advantages to using the Lincoln fluxcore nozzle when running fluxcore:- Keeps spatter and slag and crud from getting onto/into the gas diffuser;- It's a smaller diameter than the gas nozzle and lets the contact tip stick out just a little bit, so the torch tip can get into smaller places much easier.  Like inside corners and things like that.  - The black fluxcore nozzle is less expensive than the copper gas nozzle.  Yes, I've partially melted a fluxcore nozzle.Notice in the manual that some of the illustrations show the contact tip sticking out a bit and the nozzle 'hugging' the tip but back a bit?  That is the way the FCAW nozzle fits and looks.  The other illustrations with the contact tip being about even with the end of the nozzle are the GMAW nozzle.Re: a door latch.  The door hinges at the top and just hangs down.  When you want to open the door, you just swing it up and open.  What do you need a latch for anyway?    Since the electrical connections are there and exposed inside the wire compartment, I don't put small or loose metal things (like wrenches or tips or whatnot) in there.  I put them in a small plastic compartment box, this way they are together and contained and not bouncing or sliding around inside the welder.  It's your machine and you can put pieces in there if you want, but I choose not to.    I don't want to lose a small piece or have a small piece short out the electrical connections or jam into the wire feed mechanism.Good find and good price on the machine.  F-8 for 0.030 NR211-MP wire on 1/8 inch thick steel?  That doesn't sound right at all.  I find the Lincoln door-chart setting to usually be very close to the desired settings.  And my door chart and the manuals don't list 0.030 NR211, just 0.035 or 0.045 NR211.  Using 0.035 NR211, the chart/manual suggests about D-3 on 1/8 steel.  For a WAG using 0.030 NR211, I think you have to go higher on the WFS compared to 0.035 wire, so maybe D-8?  I think a voltage of F using 0.030 NR211 wire is on the high side.  Also, 0.030 FCAW wire is being pushed to about its upper amperage limit to try and run on 1/8 inch thick steel.  0.035 NR211 I think would be a better wire diameter on that thickness of steel.  The best laid schemes ... Gang oft agley ...
Reply:Your probably right on the wire size, voltage & speed.  I just tested it to see if it sparkles, which it did.  I originally set it at C-3 as the door chart said.  As I described, it was a very weak (soft) arc & I had to wait til it formed a puddle.  And not a very big one at that.  It was an awful cold bead too. Maybe if I ran a bit more & let the strap heat up a bit more, it would weld at that setting.When I moved the voltage & wirespeed I just gave them a crank.  Didn't try to put them on anything specific, just cranked it up.  I figured if I had it cranked all the way up, it would blow through, but F-8 was a pretty solid arc.  Still had to wait to form a puddle, but once started it was fine.  I only ran about 2" of bead on a piece of strap, so it's not really much of a test.I'll get some scrap & practice/test on it for a better idea of how it works.  I also need to get different wirefeed rollers & get a bigger liner if I step up to 0.35 or 0.45 wire.  But for now, I'll just work with the 0.30 size.MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:Door latch.  The new Lincoln ProMig 180 has one, my old Hobart has one.  I think it's a good idea to secure the door a bit better than just hanging down.  Right now I don't have a cart for it, but that will be fixed soon.Extra parts won't be stored there for long.  When I build the cart, it will have either a box for specific tools or a drawer right under the welders for "stuff".  I seem to misplace tips pretty easy, so I figure I better include some storage into the design.I want to leave space for a tombstone or trailblazer underneath the pair of the MIG's.  They will both be facing forward, Hobart on left, Lincoln on right.  Then have two bottles of gas behind.I was thinking something like this Attached ImagesMarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:Slick setup. Got me to thinking. I still hate that most mig machines have the gun sticking out the front with no support. Most carts don't support em either. This usually leaves the gun extending out past the edge of the cart, so it's out there like a sore thumb.At least this cart is a little wider than the units. Nice.But OMG, did they have to use so much BLUE???????????Lincoln Power Mig 210MP MIGLincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-PullLincoln TIG 300-300Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v  Thanks JLAMESCK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cupThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101My brain
Reply:Well, I would have to use Red, White & Orange to match my welders.MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:Originally Posted by Joker11But OMG, did they have to use so much BLUE???????????
Reply:That's called 'Miller Camo' Joker. Ok, well, keep it away from my garage. I don't want any of my machines to catch that!Lincoln Power Mig 210MP MIGLincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-PullLincoln TIG 300-300Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v  Thanks JLAMESCK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cupThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101My brain
Reply:Home Depot has the Lincoln 175 Flux Core nozzle for $2.98 (way less than a mig nozzle) KH726 internet/catalog #933109store SKU #1000452909I use them on my Hobarts(haven't bought one for the  Lincoln WM-255 yet)...they open up the view while welding and protect the diffuser and you don't burn up the standard mig nozzle...I like them,they make more sense than the options.
Reply:I should report the post for being offensive. Blue machines in a thread titled "Lincoln SP 175Plus"Clearly a violation of something....(That's a joke guys and gals)Lincoln Power Mig 210MP MIGLincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-PullLincoln TIG 300-300Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v  Thanks JLAMESCK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cupThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101My brain
Reply:Well, I don't know how to use Paint to change the colors, nor can I use Photoshop to get rid of that Miller logo on the sides of the welders.So ignore the color & look at the design.  If I were to make it, it would be one shelf, cart would be wide enough to hold both the Hobart & Lincoln side by side with the lead's sticking forward.  I would leave enough room on the bottom for either a Tombstone or Thunderbolt, maybe even a Stickmate.  Never know where I'll find something cheap & in working order.I also want to have room for 2 tanks of shielding gas behind the welders.  Then a small box to hold a chipping hammer, wire brushes & maybe enough room to hold a grinder or two?  I like how the design of this one has lead holders that swing out.MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:Well, whoever built it did the best they could with different machines and leads. I think it's probably one of the neatest designs I have seen. I wasn't knocking it. I was just goofing. It looks very organized. Unlike me, my office, my desk.....my garage. You know.Lincoln Power Mig 210MP MIGLincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-PullLincoln TIG 300-300Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v  Thanks JLAMESCK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cupThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101My brain
Reply:Originally Posted by MarkBall2Your probably right on the wire size, voltage & speed.  I just tested it to see if it sparkles, which it did.  I originally set it at C-3 as the door chart said.  .
Reply:Just double checked the chart in the owners manual.  Yep you are correct, it's for 0.35 wire.I wouldn't think that 0.05 would make that much difference in arc characteristics.  But it must.  I'll get a small roll of 0.35 Innershield & test it.  I think it said I have to change liners & I know I need bigger tips.Now where to get liners at.  Home Depot doesn't carry them.  And AirGas is closed by the time I get off work..................  guess I'll have to look online again.MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:I wouldn't think you have to change liners for .035Ed Conleyhttp://www.screamingbroccoli.com/MM252MM211 (Sold)Passport Plus & Spool gunLincoln SP135 Plus- (Gone to a good home)Klutch 120v Plasma cutterSO 2020 benderBeer in the fridge
Reply:I see in the manual 0.23-0.35 liners & 0.35-0.45 liners.  So I may be ok with the current liner.  I don't think I could use the black nylon liner that I have in the bench.  Just a new tip should do it.Thanks Veggie Man (Broccoli1)MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:Markball2, Regarding the door latch, my same vintage Lincoln SP135 Plus doesn't have one either, so I just stuck one of my 90deg magnets inside and presto, instant "latch".About the cart, I kinda went that route a couple months ago for my mig cart, here's my version, inspired by a cart in the latest Miller catalog:The cart can securely hold two bottles.BTW, in a couple months a Miller 211 is going to replace the 135 Plus, so I kept the cart a "neutral" color!JeffLINCOLN IdealArc Tig 300/300LINCOLN SP135+ MigNAPA buzz boxHARRIS Oxy-Acetylene Torch SetMILLER  and Harbor Freight AD HelmetsHarbor Freight Tig, Plasma & Spot
Reply:Mark,I am out and about around town. If you need something from Airgas.....let me know bro.Lincoln Power Mig 210MP MIGLincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-PullLincoln TIG 300-300Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v  Thanks JLAMESCK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cupThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101My brain
Reply:Not quite ready for that yet Joker.  I'm going to try a small roll of 0.35 wire for my test this weekend.  I have 0.30 in both of them now.I'm going to post something in the marketplace here to see if anyone has extra items they would like to get rid of.  No sense in both our toolboxes being empty.  I did put on the fluxcore nozzle.  WOW, does that tip stick out a loooooooonnnnnnnngggggggg way!!!  Wasn't expecting that, but it fits good & I can see how it would prevent the gas difuser from collecting slag.Can't wait to play with it this weekend.MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:The guy at Airgas was quick to correct me.....it's not a fluxcore nozzle. It's a thread protector. I guess he's right. It's not really a nozzle. But what the heck......Lincoln Power Mig 210MP MIGLincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-PullLincoln TIG 300-300Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v  Thanks JLAMESCK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cupThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101My brain
Reply:Originally Posted by MarkBall2I'll get some scrap & practice/test on it for a better idea of how it works.  I also need to get different wirefeed rollers & get a bigger liner if I step up to 0.35 or 0.45 wire.  But for now, I'll just work with the 0.30 size.
Reply:Ok, today was test day.First part of the test, I followed Broccoli's advice & got a 2lb roll of 0.35 wire & 0.35 tips for the Lincoln.  I had another small project to finish on my bandsaw stand so I used my Hobart for it.  Had to make a bracket to hold a chip tray so they don't just drop to the floor.What can I say, I'm lazy & hate sweeping the garage or the back slab.Lincoln welder doesn't like to feed the wire.  Looked things over & saw the flat braided wire on the work lead had backed out of one side.  So I stopped & fixed that.  Then tried to weld again.  Not much more of a spark & the wire doesn't want to feed very well.  Figured I needed a knurled drive roller, but AirGas was closed so couldn't get one.I had replaced the nylon liner with the spring type liner complete with about 4 kinks that I tried to straighten a little bit.  Talking with the guy at WestAir Gas, he said if it's kinked it could cause feeding problems.  Oh well, he didn't have one of those either.  Guess I'll have to order one.So I put the nylon liner back in the gun.  It ran, but about as good as it did before.  As I was feeding the wire, I had to help roll the spool to reel the wire through the gun.  When it would feed the wire, it seemed awful slow too.  Any pressure on the wire after it left the gun caused it to stop.  Watching it, I saw the wing nut I put on the spool tighten up, which increased tension on the spool & stopped it from feeding.  (maybe this is the problem?).The first bead I ran I had a good arc, that just went away.  It would quit, feed wire, arc (about the size of a match burning), then flare up with a bigger arc, then slow down, stop & stick the wire to the work.  It did this several times before I switched it to the nylon liner.  After the liner change I discovered the slow feeding & spool tightening up.  I "staked" the wing nut so it wouldn't tighten as the spool rotates & that didn't help much.I tried to tighten the tension on the wire feed roller & found the wingnut on it would bottom out.  So I added a couple of 1/4" washers to the underside of the spring.  That didn't help either.  At this point I'm thinking I need a knurled wire roller & a new liner.When I had a good arc, it was hot like the Hobart.  I welded on 3/16 strap that I cut into about 1.5" length.  Tried to do a lap weld, but it just didn't have the oomph.  I tried different wire speeds, different voltage settings, different angle of the gun, nothing helped.  I'm convinced it's the wire roller slipping on the wire & not feeding appropriately.Here are the welds.  Settings on the Lincoln D-3 to start, I cranked it all the way up to  F-6 with no difference in the arc.  Hobart setting was tap 4, wire speed of 40.  It welded just like it should & had good welds.  I did not change any settings on the Hobart, just followed the chart.Pic 1 Hobart on our left, Lincoln on our right.  Settings: Hobart 4-40, Lincoln D-3Pic 2 Same as the previous photoPic 3 Hobart on our left, Lincoln on our right.  New liner in Lincoln, shimmed wire feed spring, Lincoln settings F-6Maybe someone has a few ideas for me?  I think I have listed everything I changed/observed.  I also noticed the Hobart didn't have near as much spatter as the Lincoln. Attached ImagesMarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:April 20, I ordered a new liner, inert gas flowmeter & gauge and a gas hose for the Lincoln from USA Weld off Evil Bay. I've bought other stuff from them & have good success using them & not too expensive either.My package was waiting for me this afternoon when I got home from work. Priority Mail got it here in 2 days. Woo Hoo!!!First off, the liner........... I had to cut off about 6 feet to make it fit my gun. WOW. But it's the correct one now. I installed it & did the "2x4" test to set tension on the wire roller. Max tension & the wire feeds ok. The tension on the spool is just barely enough to keep it from unraveling. I bet there isn't 1 oz of tension holding it in place.After I got the new liner in it, I shot some pics then grabbed a piece of scrap & tried a bead on it. Arc was hot, kind of drug a time or two, then once I got past the kinks in the wire (not the liner, I hand fed the wire through the gun) it ran steady. Not hot enough with the setting on the door, but steady.I was just playing with a piece of 1/8" strap, setting was to be D-3. Took forever it seemed to get a puddle started. (must remember I have Dunop's disease & was bending over on the floor) So I stopped & turned the speed to 4. Much better!!! Arc hotter & still steady. I think D-3 would be a good setting for 0.30 wire. I've never run 0.35 wire before, I think it needs a bit more heat.Grabbed another piece of strap (this time 3/16") & tried a filet weld. It welded it, not much penetration, but it glued those two pieces together. Arc stayed steady, hot & bright. Didn't try to fizzle out either. I did put the pieces welded together in the vice & took a pic. I grabbed the 1/8" piece & bet it away from the 3/16" piece. It broke like I expected. Took a pic of that too.Here they are, don't critique the welds, I know the weld wasn't hot enough, has no penetration & broke just like a cold weld will do. But I think I've solved my wire feed problem.Pic 1 = Last weeks initial side by side testPic 2 = Test done 30 minutes agoPic 3 = Broken weld - see told ya it didn't have any penetrationPic 4 = Flow Meter & hosePic 5 = Spool mod..... Used a nylon self locking nut. Gonna have to get the original type spacer for it though. This thing is barely holding the spool on.Next time I'll use my tripod to steady my hands & get rid of the blurryness. Attached ImagesMarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build