TIG: Where do I go from here.

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So, I wanna get better at TIG. I wanna become "The man" at it. I can lay good welds on 5xxx aluminum, stainless, and carbon steel, 1g, 2g, and 3g. My employer has some specialty welder positions for welding inconel, HY 80, HY 100, and some titanium, 5xxx aluminum pipe. These are all welded to US military standards, so all welds must be virtually perfect.  My problem is, how do I take it to the next level? Those metals are very expensive, and you can't just find them anywhere, nor will my company just let me screw around welding a superalloy like inconel. I feel kinda stuck. Any weld drills to get better at TIG or general advice would be great.
Reply:I'm no pro, so take this for a grain of salt. I'm led to believe that stainless steel (non Fe) is similar to inconel and  hastelloy but the puddle is a bit more sluggish.
Reply:Some times you just have to pay to play. If you are a decent tig welder to begin with, and really want to move up to specialty alloys, a dedicated class at some place like Hobart or Lincoln may be worth looking into..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
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Reply:gweahAsk the 'in-house' welders that do the 'good work' how they: Broke on through to the other side.Be open to all suggestions - especially those that are: outside of mere/pure welding practice.Opus
Reply:Originally Posted by gweahSo, I wanna get better at TIG. I wanna become "The man" at it. I can lay good welds on 5xxx aluminum, stainless, and carbon steel, 1g, 2g, and 3g. My employer has some specialty welder positions for welding inconel, HY 80, HY 100, and some titanium, 5xxx aluminum pipe. These are all welded to US military standards, so all welds must be virtually perfect.  My problem is, how do I take it to the next level? Those metals are very expensive, and you can't just find them anywhere, nor will my company just let me screw around welding a superalloy like inconel. I feel kinda stuck. Any weld drills to get better at TIG or general advice would be great.
Reply:You can download a free pdf of MIL-STD-2219 at www.everyspec.com Back in the 80s and early 90s when I was doing quite a bit of production welding on aerospace parts for Military applications it was MIL-STD-1595A.
Reply:Originally Posted by HT2-4956You can download a free pdf of MIL-STD-2219 at www.everyspec.com Back in the 80s and early 90s when I was doing quite a bit of production welding on aerospace parts for Military applications it was MIL-STD-1595A.
Reply:listen brother i'm new here ,but straight up,,i am the man,i agree they are not the cheapest things to be practicing on,if you realy want  to take it to the next level,,simple,bottom line you have to get educated my freind,,almost all trade schools rent out there booths,for testing upgrading,and general learning,i know that my trade school rents ,day to day ,or week to week,,ect,my point is ,the school has and supplies all you need,when it comes to any materials,machines,ectto practice watever ,procedures you want ,,,bottom line you'll probably have to into an up grade to certify any way ,gather up all the info,for wat ever it is you seek,take it to the company,,,most companies if they want you to certify in any ticket or procedure,they will pay for it ,they sen d you to school ,most companies ,you will stay on payroll,sighn you up you'll have plenty of material ,and tim e to learn these prcedures properly ,,,,,so ....want a shot at the tittle??...i'll be here..lol...best of luck to you brother ,,you can do it,,,to easy,,,,,mojo
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonGood one!Download 1595A also. It is the welder qualification spec specified in 2219.
Reply:Originally Posted by mojorisonlisten brother i'm new here ,but straight up,,i am the man,i agree they are not the cheapest things to be practicing on,if you realy want  to take it to the next level,,simple,bottom line you have to get educated my freind,,almost all trade schools rent out there booths,for testing upgrading,and general learning,i know that my trade school rents ,day to day ,or week to week,,ect,my point is ,the school has and supplies all you need,when it comes to any materials,machines,ectto practice watever ,procedures you want ,,,bottom line you'll probably have to into an up grade to certify any way ,gather up all the info,for wat ever it is you seek,take it to the company,,,most companies if they want you to certify in any ticket or procedure,they will pay for it ,they sen d you to school ,most companies ,you will stay on payroll,sighn you up you'll have plenty of material ,and tim e to learn these prcedures properly ,,,,,so ....want a shot at the tittle??...i'll be here..lol...best of luck to you brother ,,you can do it,,,to easy,,,,,mojo
Reply:Originally Posted by HT2-4956Wow!!!   Call me overly cynical but I'm already less than impressed.
Reply:zt step aside son "the man" is here
Reply:Originally Posted by mojorisonlisten brother i'm new here ,but straight up,,i am the man,i agree they are not the cheapest things to be practicing on,if you realy want  to take it to the next level,,simple,bottom line you have to get educated my freind,,almost all trade schools rent out there booths,for testing upgrading,and general learning,i know that my trade school rents ,day to day ,or week to week,,ect,my point is ,the school has and supplies all you need,when it comes to any materials,machines,ectto practice watever ,procedures you want ,,,bottom line you'll probably have to into an up grade to certify any way ,gather up all the info,for wat ever it is you seek,take it to the company,,,most companies if they want you to certify in any ticket or procedure,they will pay for it ,they sen d you to school ,most companies ,you will stay on payroll,sighn you up you'll have plenty of material ,and tim e to learn these prcedures properly ,,,,,so ....want a shot at the tittle??...i'll be here..lol...best of luck to you brother ,,you can do it,,,to easy,,,,,mojo
Reply:Originally Posted by Softail Riderzt step aside son "the man" is here
Reply:Take FieldRes for exampleHe's a little loony, butIf you watch his videos you will see he did what was suggested hereHe took speciality courses at his local trade schoolThen he went and bought supplies, Ti and inconel pipe - a length, an interpas temp and gas monitor Thousands of $ spentthen he practised, then he tested and got the tickets.The reason they are top teir welders is they have speciality knowledge and experience that took time, effort and money to obtain.Also agree, speak with the ones there that have that knowledge, maybe you can get some private training time, some scrap material, maybe your company pays for training...
Reply:Originally Posted by ZTFabWould that be, "Mr Man"?
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonOh boy, here we go!Are you a man ZT?
Reply:Originally Posted by mojorisonlisten brother i'm new here ,but straight up,,i am the man,
Reply:Originally Posted by mojorisonlisten brother i'm new here ,but straight up,,i am the man,i agree they are not the cheapest things to be practicing on,if you realy want  to take it to the next level,,simple,bottom line you have to get educated my freind,,almost all trade schools rent out there booths,for testing upgrading,and general learning,i know that my trade school rents ,day to day ,or week to week,,ect,my point is ,the school has and supplies all you need,when it comes to any materials,machines,ectto practice watever ,procedures you want ,,,bottom line you'll probably have to into an up grade to certify any way ,gather up all the info,for wat ever it is you seek,take it to the company,,,most companies if they want you to certify in any ticket or procedure,they will pay for it ,they sen d you to school ,most companies ,you will stay on payroll,sighn you up you'll have plenty of material ,and tim e to learn these prcedures properly ,,,,,so ....want a shot at the tittle??...i'll be here..lol...best of luck to you brother ,,you can do it,,,to easy,,,,,mojo
Reply:Originally Posted by FODFACheers Andrew
Reply:"Discovery is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody else has thought" - Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
Reply:Hey, give him a chance to prove it.I wanna see what THE MAN welds.
Reply:Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li  ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Originally Posted by 12345678910Take FieldRes for exampleHe's a little loony, but If you watch his videos you will see he did what was suggested hereHe took speciality courses at his local trade schoolThen he went and bought supplies, Ti and inconel pipe - a length, an interpas temp and gas monitor Thousands of $ spent then he practised, then he tested and got the tickets.The reason they are top teir welders is they have speciality knowledge and experience that took time, effort and money to obtain.Also agree, speak with the ones there that have that knowledge, maybe you can get some private training time, some scrap material, maybe your company pays for training...
Reply:Originally Posted by weldermikeMan you really sound like a dlck.
Reply:I wont name any names but a famous dude was in house and I had to do something to him in his room. Outside were the usual assemblage of hangers on, including this 20-something gal who turned out to be his daughter. I was about to go in and she stopped me and said "so you're the best at this, right?" I said "I've done more than a few, if thats what you mean." She went off about how whenever anybody asks you how good you are, you should say I'm better than everybody else. At which point I said "Well, if I have to tell you how good I am, I must not be very good." She looked confused.As Bruce Lee said "If I tell you I'm good, you'll think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you'll know I'm lying."
Reply:Was it Mr. TIG?
Reply:Originally Posted by zankWas it Mr. TIG?
Reply:Originally Posted by atgI wont name any names but a famous dude was in house and I had to do something to him in his room. "
Reply:No, nobody THAT important.
Reply:Originally Posted by zankWas it Mr. TIG?
Reply:Following AWS certs. 3G GTAW 3/8" carbon steel D1.1. GMAW 3G Unlimited thickness carbon steel D1.1. GTAW 1g unlimited thickness aluminum D9.1 (Sheet metal code, not sure that's right) GTAW 1g unlimited thickness carbon steel D9.1. FCAW 2g, 3g, 4g to military standard. Anyway, seems the best bet is to find a trade school or something similar to practice welding. So far, nothing found.
Reply:Please!act grown up and ignore the trolls, no one cares who "the man" is. take childish discussions to Private messaging to keep the forum helpfulYou know what they say.............“Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”― Mark Twain
Reply:Originally Posted by gweahFollowing AWS certs. 3G GTAW 3/8" carbon steel D1.1. GMAW 3G Unlimited thickness carbon steel D1.1. GTAW 1g unlimited thickness aluminum D9.1 (Sheet metal code, not sure that's right) GTAW 1g unlimited thickness carbon steel D9.1. FCAW 2g, 3g, 4g to military standard. Anyway, seems the best bet is to find a trade school or something similar to practice welding. So far, nothing found.
Reply:All those certs besides flux core were done in my welding class. I can personally say industry is NOTHING like school. The welding aspect of not being in a controlled environment, welding out of position, in tight spaces really makes the job hard, along with all the procedures and specifications I have to follow. Today I TIG welded for about 7 hours, and it sure is cool to see the improvement.
Reply:Originally Posted by gweahAll those certs besides flux core were done in my welding class. I can personally say industry is NOTHING like school. The welding aspect of not being in a controlled environment, welding out of position, in tight spaces really makes the job hard, along with all the procedures and specifications I have to follow. Today I TIG welded for about 7 hours, and it sure is cool to see the improvement.
Reply:Originally Posted by FODFACheers Andrew
Reply:If the shop works on inconel, they will have scrap, all you have to do find the filler. That crap is high. I have no experience with Titanium. Seems like a hassle, good luck on that.Constant Current Weldor.
Reply:Originally Posted by GarThat was awesome!  Thanks for the good laugh!Gar
Reply:I weld on furnace tubes, all kinds of alloys **** i aint never herd of. we have one tube called kabota just like the tractor. its a japanese company that makes its own tubes. Any way i dont do anything different from one alloy to the other. i weld carbon steel the same way i weld Hp, except for the purge. if you can put the bead in carbon u can put it in anything, dont let it intimidate u. the only difference is the purge. set up a carbon coupon and purge it, use a 309 rod
Reply:My real problem as of late is stainless to carbon steel 3g, 2g, and 4g. They look ok, but not good. I can weld aluminum in the positions very well, as well as just carbon steel, but stainless just gives me big trouble.
Reply:You go on YouTube, type FieldRes, answers to your questions!
Reply:Originally Posted by MagicHatYou go on YouTube, type FieldRes, answers to your questions!
Reply:Originally Posted by AKweldshopI wish he would allow comments....