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Im looking for a Everlast powertig185, Miller Diversion 180, or Something along those lines in good used condition. I really like the price of the Everlast, and I have heard some good things about them, but I would like to find a good used one because I know 6 months down the road I will want a 250ex if I like the 185.Anyway.....let me know what you ve got.Im in Northwestern NC and I dont care to drive a ways for the right deal.thanks JB
Reply:Forgot to mention, must be AC/DC and im really more interested in inverter type machines.thanks JB
Reply:Buy the new Neverlast.Then, when it craps out in 6 mos., maybe they'll take it back in exchange for what you really want.Really seems like a dumbazz way to approach buying a welder.Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:Originally Posted by SundownIIIBuy the new Neverlast.Then, when it craps out in 6 mos., maybe they'll take it back in exchange for what you really want.Really seems like a dumbazz way to approach buying a welder.
Reply:Yeah "bud", you sound like a real experienced guy with several "blue" machines."I'm only going to use it a little bit, so I'll just buy junk...". Brilliant.Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:OK OH GOD OF WELDING.....I SURRENDER.....I AM NOT WORTHY OF POSTING ON YOUR FORUM.You can get back to minding someone elses business nowMods please delete this thread.JB
Reply:Sorry you've just gotten here and you already have to deal with SunnyD. Dont worry, we're not all like that.Anyway, here is a video that I made about a few of the more popular welders out there. Hope it helps [Account Abandoned 8/8/16 Please Do Not Attempt Contact Or Expect A Reply]. See you on YouTube! -ChuckE2009
Reply:as the others have said you unfortunatly have been responded to by the worlds largest walking pecker head and what is more interesting is the he is a former officer in the armed forces, that is even more disgusting. But life goes on, you will get some good info just hang in there, its to bad he cant be banned like a few others have been around here, just me 2 cents worth.
Reply:Go read some of Sundown's other threads and you will see its nothing personal but he will talk trash anytime someone mentions buying anything that is not red or blue. However, I would agree, why get a 185 if you know you are going to want a 250 in 6 months, I don't think its on the everlast website yet but check out their forum here for the 250 ext. it has several internal design improvements over the 250 ex but really it comes down to if you want an analog or digital control panel. All you will get is one sided trash talking on any but the everlast sponsored forum. Maybe you can get Sundown to send you the extra cash ($2000-3000) so you can buy a red or blue machine over an Everlast. you get a 30 day money back guarantee anyway if you don't like it send it back. and you are good to go for 5 years, being an inverter the cost to ship is pretty low down the road even if it has to go for repairs.... compare my Lincoln V205T Invertec to a similar feature Everlast and you are at 3 to 4 times the cost for the machineTiger Sales: AHP Distributor www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P, Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma. For Sale: Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun. Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:I see the point about buying one now and buying a bigger one later, here is my reasoning.I attended Welding and Fabrication school nearly 19 years ago, and while I mig weld almost daily now ( on BLUE machines) I havent TIG welded in about 15 years and then I was TIGing stainless pipe and walking the cup...no freehand stuff, and never aluminum.Now we build and work on racecars, mostly our own, and anytime we have anything aluminum that needs welding, we have to send it out. So I thought if I buy a lower cost unit and realize that I can still TIG, and effectively TIG aluminum then we could use the smaller unit in the race trailer for emergencies at the track and could get the bigger one to use at my home as well as be able to take it with me anywhere I need to.Ive actually found a great deal on a miller dynasty 200dx but I cant get the guy to call me back...JB
Reply:Dynasty is a great machine... for doing non code stuff you really don't need the bells and whistles of the Dynasty or Invertec machines. (pulse adjustable up/down slope, pre/post flow adj etc.) Just an inverter with AC frequency and balance will work fine. That's just about the only control I touch on my Invertec doing hobby Alu welding... Usually set balance for extra cleaning as most of my Alu is scrap that I have had laying around for yearsOh the Everlast 185 tig is available in Dual/Voltage 110/220 now. having the ability to have 110 vac for mobile on your race cars would be handyLast edited by soutthpaw; 11-28-2011 at 06:05 PM.Tiger Sales: AHP Distributor www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P, Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma. For Sale: Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun. Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:i wouldn't worry too much about it, if i were you i'd be looking for a low dollar entry. i bought a 250 ex from everlast. the thing works great. i even like the knobs. i ran beads with my 302 trailblazer set up for aluminum, my 350 lx, the 250 ex and i had some aluminum plate with some beads from my dynasty SD200 that i had put down before selling it. i sold the five year old machine; used the money to buy the EX and netted almost 900 dollars after the purchase. about the beads, they all looked fine to me and i could not say that one machine was appreciably better than the other, at least in terms of this comparative excercise. now stand by for the dynasty lover's to descend and tell you about the god like characteristics of their machines; but really, who cares. most of us are not out there building rockets for nasa. we're just making a living. just like we were before this new generation of overly complex machines came to market. if i can pick up a unit that will do the job for 2 or 3 k less, well, i'd have to be retarded not to. or, if i can pick up a unit for the price of replacing one of those boards that i am always reading about on the miller board, then hey, i'm a winner.as for the dynasty 200 it is a puny little thing, if you are trying to weld some schedule 40 pipe to a base plate you had better have a plumber's torch to get you moving, either that or if you smoke light up and when you're done smoking the material will be hot enough to to start running your pass.the 50 extra amps from the ex makes a world of difference. if they hold up over time they are going to cause some hurt to lincoln and miller.also the thing ran 7018 like a champ however it doesn't run 6010 very well.
Reply:The reason people get worked up on topics like this is because in a few months or weeks or what ever time people will come back and post I bought this and now its too small but I cant afford a bigger one or I am having problems or its a pos. While it is nice to have popcorn and watch the flaming it does get old.Millermatic 252millermatic 175miller 300 Thunderboltlincoln ranger 250smith torcheslots of bfh'sIf it dont fit get a bigger hammer
Reply:Originally Posted by farmshopThe reason people get worked up on topics like this is because in a few months or weeks or what ever time people will come back and post I bought this and now its too small but I cant afford a bigger one or I am having problems or its a pos. While it is nice to have popcorn and watch the flaming it does get old.
Reply:fdcmiami,To profess to being a "professional welder" you sure post a lot of BULLSH1T.If you have difficulty welding schedule 40 pipe to a base plate, then you need to learn to weld. My Dynasty 200 has absolutely NO TROUBLE with that weld (no waiting).The Dynasty 200 will run 6010 just fine. In fact, there are many posts that support that. Of course, there again, those comments come from people WHO KNOW HOW TO WELD. The Maxstar 150 is the Miller welder that has problems with 6010, because it wasn't designed for it.You really don't understand how stupid you sound to a reasonably intelligent person. You claim you had a Dynasty 200 SD, which you used for 5 years. 5 years ago a Dynasty 200 SD was selling for about $2,300. You used the machine for 5 years, sold it, purchased a Neverlast, and had $900 left over. Sounds to me like you had a quality machine for 5 years, that cost you damn little for the time you had it. If that Neverlast gives you the same return, I'll be very surprised.You keep "blowing smoke" about a Dynasty 200 DX costing you 2-3 K more than your Neverlast. To that I again call BULLSH1T. I purchased my Dynasty 200 DX from BR Welding last year (brand new with 3 yr Warranty) for <$2,800. You can throw out all those BS numbers to build your case, but the pile still stinks.Again you claim to be a "professional" but act otherwise. Equipment purchases are an investment. My Dynasty paid for itself in the first three months I owned it. It allowed me to do three SS rail projects, at the owner's location, that I would not have been able to do with my Syncrowave. I've traveled the east coast waterfront extensively (from Cape Cod to Key West) over the last 20 years. I've never been in a professional marine fabrication shop that relied on a Chinese welder to produce income. If things are so tight at your location that you have to rely on that junk, maybe you're not running a professional shop.In fact, I've found that shops that cut corners on equipment purchases (welders, diagnostic equipment, tools, etc) generally cut other corners as well and their produced product reflects that as well. Do you want the mechanic working on your Mercedes to have his toolbox full of tools from Wal-Mart or Harbor Freight?You obviously wern't around the forum when the "snake oil salesmen" (Neverlast and Nolongivity) came on the scene. You didn't see the negative posts about their machines deleted. The false claims they made. The lies they told. The list just goes on and on. Yeah, they've "cleaned up their act somewhat" but a zebra doesn't change his stripes. You keep blowing hot air in your Neverlast baloon, and I'll keep popping it.If the OP wanted to buy a cheap azz Chinese tig welder, he should have gone to their sponsored forums. Furthermore, if he's serious about welding aluminum, then a 185A welder is not what he wants.You keep blowing your "hot air" about how great Neverlast is and maybe they'll hire you like they did luggy. He couldn't make it as a "professional welder" either. I guess being a "mouthpiece" pays better than melting metal.Last edited by SundownIII; 11-29-2011 at 01:24 AM.Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:I am going to have to back sundown on this thread. Not that he needs it. There is no comparison in durability and quality of machine. You truly get what you pay for. Almost every time a person who comes on the forum that begins asking about everlast or longevity versus the higher quality units have already made their minds up. Almost from the start they are defensive of their selection and the faithful band of chinese purchasers all jump to the rescue. So go ahead and buy the everlast. I hope it serves you well. When it quits and is out of warrantee, and you are left with a $900 paper weight, just remember you could have used that same $900 and purchased a used quality machine that would still be working.
Reply:lol you are simply to predictable. Do you want the mechanic working on your Mercedes to have his toolbox full of tools from Wal-Mart or Harbor Freight?your use of the possessive prounoun your implies, incorrectly in my case, that we are all driving a mercedes benz. maybe you are but most here aren't.let's see, mercedes hmmmm. well, we'll overlook this.Daimler-Benz, for example. The firm avidly supported Nazism and in return received arms contracts and tax breaks that enabled it to become one of the world's leading industrial concerns. (Between 1932 and 1940 production grew by 830 percent.) During the war the company used thousands of slaves and forced laborers including Jews, foreigners, and POWs. According to historian Bernard Bellon (Mercedes in Peace and War, 1990), at least eight Jews were murdered by DB managers or SS men at a plant in occupied Poland. There was a report that Daimler-Benz built mobile poison gas vans, but this has never been corroborated and is doubtful.Last edited by fdcmiami; 11-29-2011 at 06:21 AM.
Reply:I have a Lincoln Squarwave 175 (because I got a very good deal on it used) but I wish I had a bigger machine, I would get the biggest machine you can, and I would also stay away from the imports because you will one day need parts or customer service etc......
Reply:Originally Posted by monkersI have a Lincoln Squarwave 175 (because I got a very good deal on it used) but I wish I had a bigger machine, I would get the biggest machine you can, and I would also stay away from the imports because you will one day need parts or customer service etc......
Reply:Originally Posted by budracer1I understand that but I realize that its probably to small from the start, but its cheaper to test functionality and quality of the smaller machine and if it checks out and I decide to buy bigger it will serve well in the race trailer, or to teach my young boys to weld on.I really didnt mean to start a "war" thread, Im just looking for a good used 180-200 amp inverter based ac/dc tig rig that I dont need to sell a kidney to buy.....thats all, I really could care less what "color" it is.....JB
Reply:Ok so I've been searching, reading, researching and I've got my eyes on a Miller syncrowave 200 DX, Seems like it will fit my needs other than being portable, what's the opinions on that machine? I spoke with a good friend who owns a syncro 250 and he said he never turns it over 200 and all our race car stuff is 1/4 or less so ....I'm thinking it will be perfect. I have found a pretty good deal on a used one, plus Ive got another friend who works for airgas / national welder and he's gave me an at cost price on a new one.The used one comes with cart and cover and has about 1 hour of use but warranty is gone, looks brand new, and its about 400 cheaper than new.The new one doesn't come with cart or cover, but has warranty...What would you guys do?Thanks JB
Reply:I would get the one with a warranty. Check with miller directly they may honor the warranty even on a used machineTiger Sales: AHP Distributor www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P, Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma. For Sale: Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun. Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:Originally Posted by Scott YoungI am going to have to back sundown on this thread. Not that he needs it. There is no comparison in durability and quality of machine. You truly get what you pay for. Almost every time a person who comes on the forum that begins asking about everlast or longevity versus the higher quality units have already made their minds up. Almost from the start they are defensive of their selection and the faithful band of chinese purchasers all jump to the rescue. So go ahead and buy the everlast. I hope it serves you well. When it quits and is out of warrantee, and you are left with a $900 paper weight, just remember you could have used that same $900 and purchased a used quality machine that would still be working.
Reply:Originally Posted by budracer1Ok so I've been searching, reading, researching and I've got my eyes on a Miller syncrowave 200 DX, Seems like it will fit my needs other than being portable, what's the opinions on that machine? I spoke with a good friend who owns a syncro 250 and he said he never turns it over 200 and all our race car stuff is 1/4 or less so ....I'm thinking it will be perfect. I have found a pretty good deal on a used one, plus Ive got another friend who works for airgas / national welder and he's gave me an at cost price on a new one.The used one comes with cart and cover and has about 1 hour of use but warranty is gone, looks brand new, and its about 400 cheaper than new.The new one doesn't come with cart or cover, but has warranty...What would you guys do?Thanks JB
Reply:Well I havent ordered a new machine yet, and It seems that all the used syncrowave 200s in reasonable driving distance are priced 1500 and up......On another note I did happen to run across a Dialarc 250 HF with tig rig, foot pedal, water cooler, and very long stick leads (which ill never use) and a new Miller auto darkening helmet for 500.00.The only thing is I cant try it out because the guy who owns it took it as payment for some work he done and he has no way of gettting power to it. He did say that when he took it that the guy stick welded with it, so im sure that part works, just not sure about the tig part.Are these decent machines for tigging aluminum?Would I be better off to wait for a syncro 200 or 250?I also thought about just buying it to part out.....Not sure what to do at this point.any advice is appreciatedthanks JBThat is a great deal for the 250HF, very solid machine and super reliable if you have the power to run it. it doesn't have all the fancy features of of the new inverters, I did own the DIalarc HF for a while, actually kept the miller Radiator when I sold the machine. I have a complete set of Diodes and power switch and controls for that machine if you do buy it and need parts. If it seems decent I would buy it untested at that price. you will need a 50 to 100 amp circuit to run it. it will do Aluminum fine, Look at some of Zapster's work. its all done with a Miller transformer tig welder... Originally Posted by budracer1Well I havent ordered a new machine yet, and It seems that all the used syncrowave 200s in reasonable driving distance are priced 1500 and up......On another note I did happen to run across a Dialarc 250 HF with tig rig, foot pedal, water cooler, and very long stick leads (which ill never use) and a new Miller auto darkening helmet for 500.00.The only thing is I cant try it out because the guy who owns it took it as payment for some work he done and he has no way of gettting power to it. He did say that when he took it that the guy stick welded with it, so im sure that part works, just not sure about the tig part.Are these decent machines for tigging aluminum?Would I be better off to wait for a syncro 200 or 250?I also thought about just buying it to part out.....Not sure what to do at this point.any advice is appreciatedthanks JB
Reply:yes the dialarc 250 hf will weld aluminum. you only sacrifice the balance feature. the go to aluminum guy in the last shop I welded for used one of these at his home and turned out beautiful work. Don't knock the stick welding. it is addictive.
Reply:[QUOTE=Scott Young;580706Don't knock the stick welding. it is addictive.[/QUOTE]Lol im not knocking the stick, I just know I wont use it. One of the main reasons im wanting a tig for my home use is the lack of sparks going into my wooden rafters.When I welded pipe many years ago the guy I worked for made me do all the stick welding, I dont care if I see another welding rod ever lol..The only thing that concerns me about the HF250 is the fact that most of the stuff ill be messing with will be 1/8 or smaller and from what ive read these machines dont fair so well on the thinner stuff.For 500.00 im sure it will be good to brush up on my tig skills and if it doesnt work out for what I want to do, I dont think ill have any problems getting my money back.JB
Reply:That's one of those "can't go wrong" deals. Use it for a month if you like then resell it while looking for what you want. You should be able to turn a profit on that unit too, at that price.-DaveXMT304 with: 22A Feeder, or HF251 Hi Freq DC TIG air cooled |
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