XMT 350 VS First thoughts

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WOW what a difference between this and the TB 302 on FCAWMuch smoother more responsive to wire stickout.
Reply:Is that with dual shield? I like mine.Leo
Reply:Hello Fat Bastard, I'm thinking that you are referring to FCAW/self-shielded? We have a number of the XMT 304's that we run in the voltage sensing mode with good results. We'll soon be receiving a bunch of the XMT350's and also a Miller 12VS. Currently operating LN 25's on the XMT's that we have. Best regards, Allanaevald
Reply:Hey FB, I was using XMT 350's at school back in the spring. We were using stick mode only. I thought it had a very aggressive, or violent arc. Then I tried the Lincoln V350Pro, and fell in love with it. Just sayin..."Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:the XMT has more power in reserve for large diameter FCAW,  where the trailblazer is stretched out to its upper limits for Large innersheild wires.     Also with the XMT350 it seems far more forgiving to variations in stick out than the small gasser engine drives could ever hope to be.Vantage 500's LN-25's, VI-400's, cobramatics, Miller migs, synch 350 LX, Powcon inverters, XMT's, 250 Ton Acurrpress 12' brake, 1/4" 10' Atlantic shear,Koikie plasma table W/ esab plasmas. marvel & hyd-mech saws, pirrana & metal muncher punches.
Reply:I'll second this comment.  I've seen 5/64ths self shield run at 200+amps on a bobcat and ranger engine drives,  and the results were not great.  Wouldn't want to run this out of position.  But on the larger engine drives, PipePro350, 700, or Pro300, and other Miller Big Blue machines, or Lincoln Vantage machines, the performance is much better. Originally Posted by Dualiethe XMT has more power in reserve for large diameter FCAW,  where the trailblazer is stretched out to its upper limits for Large innersheild wires.     Also with the XMT350 it seems far more forgiving to variations in stick out than the small gasser engine drives could ever hope to be.
Reply:Some more info as I see now my whole post did not make it for some reason Might be I typed it n my mind only lol. So the machine is the New XMT "VS" it is a stick lift tig and VS wire feed only machine. It has no 14 pin plug and thus no remote capability.  I was running ESAB 710X in .045 with CO2. IMO it has a better arc than my XMT 350 CVCC machines. I have not run any stick yet .Last edited by Fat Bastard; 10-30-2012 at 04:15 PM.
Reply:Originally Posted by Stick-manHey FB, I was using XMT 350's at school back in the spring. We were using stick mode only. I thought it had a very aggressive, or violent arc. Then I tried the Lincoln V350Pro, and fell in love with it. Just sayin...
Reply:Hello snoeproe, maybe Stick-man had the arc force set to "digging" instead of a soft. I have also run a lot of stick on XMT 304's, not 350's yet,but soon, and have felt that they had a very smooth arc. I am wondering though if the XMT 350 VS is using CV or CC for the VS portion of it's output. Would make a difference if making code welds without pre-qualified procedures. Best regards, Allanaevald
Reply:Originally Posted by aevaldHello Fat Bastard, I'm thinking that you are referring to FCAW/self-shielded? We have a number of the XMT 304's that we run in the voltage sensing mode with good results. We'll soon be receiving a bunch of the XMT350's and also a Miller 12VS. Currently operating LN 25's on the XMT's that we have. Best regards, Allan
Reply:So  the 350vs is a stick, dc tig and Voltage sensing wirefeed mig.  Sounds interesting but other than price is there a value to not buying an a XMT 350 cc/cv with voltage sensing?
Reply:Hello Tom, I'm a little surprised by that. I worked a good sized field job running the 12VS's off of TB 302's in the CV mode and had good performance with them, we were using FCAW w/gas and working all-positions with lead lengths of anywhere from 50' to 100'. I guess I'll find out for sure when ours gets here and we have a chance to give it a work-out. Thanks for the heads-up. Best regards, Allanaevald
Reply:Originally Posted by aevaldHello snoeproe, maybe Stick-man had the arc force set to "digging" instead of a soft. I have also run a lot of stick on XMT 304's, not 350's yet,but soon, and have felt that they had a very smooth arc. I am wondering though if the XMT 350 VS is using CV or CC for the VS portion of it's output. Would make a difference if making code welds without pre-qualified procedures. Best regards, Allan
Reply:On my vantage 500's i like to run my arc force at around +2.5  on the XMT's its around 55-60 on the arc force.    This is for 3G NR-232Vantage 500's LN-25's, VI-400's, cobramatics, Miller migs, synch 350 LX, Powcon inverters, XMT's, 250 Ton Acurrpress 12' brake, 1/4" 10' Atlantic shear,Koikie plasma table W/ esab plasmas. marvel & hyd-mech saws, pirrana & metal muncher punches.
Reply:Hello again Stick-man, if this was at your school and it is anything like most of the schools that I have been to there can be a lot of things going on that will affect an arc. Not saying that was the case when you had your experiences, but saying that the possibilities are endless for arc blow issues and other influences for arc quality. We have a Lincoln V350 pro, unfortunately it has a blown board and it's a $1000 price tag to get it fixed, I am still waffling on whether to put out the grand or just let it go to machine heaven. It was given to us in that condition so I did not have an opportunity to try it out and "see" the quality of it's arc. Maybe one of these days I'll get to make that particular comparison on some even ground so that I can better base an opinion. Anyhow, I have probably hi-jacked Fat Bastard's thread enough. Always interested to hear what others have to say though. Best regards, Allanaevald
Reply:Originally Posted by weldbaySo  the 350vs is a stick, dc tig and Voltage sensing wirefeed mig.  Sounds interesting but other than price is there a value to not buying an a XMT 350 cc/cv with voltage sensing?
Reply:I love the 350 CC/CVC we have in our shop.I have played with the VS version at the Miller shop out in Edmonton and I found it to be a nice Arc on  Kobelco's DW55ESR 0.45" Gas Shielded Flux Core Wire. I did some Flat beads on 37.5 Degree bevel edged 3/8" plate with a 3/32" land and it gave really nice results. Running about 25 to 26 Volts and about 270 IPM (ish, been awhile so don't quote me exactly) I then used the same machine to weld a test piece (For me, no other reason) on 3.5" XS Pipe with the same angles and preps just with a 1/8" gap, (On the pipe weld I rooted it with the RMD process from Millers newest machine) the VS version did a great job, better I thought than the CC/CV version.That said I run a lot of 1/8" 7018 on our standard CC/CV XMT 350 with the dig control set at 40 I found the standard machine gives a nicer Arc than the VS with a fair amount of Pen.Just my 2 Cents.Now I guess I should go and post an Intro! Oop's!!Cheers guys,Patch.