which belt/disc sander?

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Need some input on  a belt/disc sander for deburring metal. I want something small and portable cause my work space is small. Anyone using the HF 4x36 one? http://www.harborfreight.com/4-inch-...der-97181.html Dont know if this thing would bog down when sanding metal.-2 speedglas 9002x + Adflo-Miller Dynasty 200DX-HH 210 Mvp
Reply:It won't bog down, but it will fall apart! Plastic rollers, and made like garbage!I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys
Reply:People seem happy with it on HF reviews but I'm sure they using it for wood work. I been looking on CL for one, would settle for a horizontal only sander.-2 speedglas 9002x + Adflo-Miller Dynasty 200DX-HH 210 Mvp
Reply:I have it. It's an ok machine. I don't use the disc side at all. Home Depot has a ryobi one which looks the same but it's all plastic. At least the harbor feight one has a metal frame. Use a 20% off coupon.Pushing a little on the belt sander makes the belt move left or right. So just have to keep an eye on that.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:I have a cheap one like that and it just does not have the horsepower to do the job effectively.  One horsepower on a 2 inch wide belt is about what you need.   As you widen the belt you need more power.  For the price doing light sanding it is ok.  Local industry use this product but the price is "industrial".  I have used this make of belt sander in a variety of shops and they run for decades without any attention.http://www.gallantmanufacturing.com/Model-390.page
Reply:Originally Posted by GambleI have it. It's an ok machine. I don't use the disc side at all. Home Depot has a ryobi one which looks the same but it's all plastic. At least the harbor feight one has a metal frame. Use a 20% off coupon.Pushing a little on the belt sander makes the belt move left or right. So just have to keep an eye on that.
Reply:It's a metal frame under the plastic?Nice to know!Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749The horizontal one.
Reply:HIHere is one I build many years ago, I cast the aluminum wheel and bearing blocks it has a 2 hp motor on it.   2" X 60" belt.When you get one you ba mad at yourself for not getting one earlier Attached Images
Reply:I have a POWERMATIC 6''x48'' with 12'' disc. I don't know how I ever did without it. It's a piece of equipment that after you have it you wonder why it took so long to get. Mine is used mostly for metal. Attached Images
Reply:Here's a Burr King Model 760 belt grinder - $750 (Chicago) on craigs list. I would like to add this to my collection but kinda high. I think it's around $2000.00 new. Check it out.http://madison.craigslist.org/tls/3633433351.html
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749That's not a bad price. I remember the days when you could pick these up for a few hundred bux at auction. My buddy has one just like that, but it needs some serious attention. Hopefully, I can land it as a future project. Honestly, I don't think I would use it much but I like working on them
Reply:Originally Posted by BD1I have a POWERMATIC 6''x48'' with 12'' disc. I don't know how I ever did without it. It's a piece of equipment that after you have it you wonder why it took so long to get. Mine is used mostly for metal.
Reply:Originally Posted by WyoRoyJust purchased one a week or so ago and going through it now. Did you resize the motor pulley to bring up the sfpm or is it even necessary?
Reply:I have a Dayton with a 6x48 belt and a 9in. disc i have 40grit on the disc to "hog" with and a 120 grit on the belt for fine work that is one of the handiest tools i own . i had one of those small cheap ones it had "no power "and they are just to small and they fall apart . i got mad and threw it in the scrap and bought the Dayton from Graingers  i think it was $400.00 worth every penny but you need to buy good belts and discs . if you can buy one with wheels they throw allot of dust  so you can clean around them . buy a good quality one and it will last you a lifetime . every time i cut anything i use it . good luck. Chris.Last edited by ct from shawnee; 04-07-2013 at 08:08 AM.
Reply:Hey Ct, where do you get your belts ?  I bought some from harbor freight using the 20 % off coupon to try. They have been holding up well. A member on another site that had trouble with his hf belts. The seam on the ones in bought had a overlap and were junk. I suggested him to return them and check the others in store. He returned them and did find one set that looked great. Took them home and worked fine. I guess it depends on how lucky you get.
Reply:Originally Posted by BD1No,  I didn't have to touch it. You will love it. Here's the manual for a newer model. It hasn't changed since mine. You can type in the model and may find the exact one.'http://content.powermatic.com/manuals/1791292K_man.pdf
Reply:Originally Posted by BD1Hey Ct, where do you get your belts ?  I bought some from harbor freight using the 20 % off coupon to try. They have been holding up well. A member on another site that had trouble with his hf belts. The seam on the ones in bought had a overlap and were junk. I suggested him to return them and check the others in store. He returned them and did find one set that looked great. Took them home and worked fine. I guess it depends on how lucky you get.
Reply:its not small (149 lbs) but my grizzly g1183 a 6x48x12 sander is still working great. made in taiwan and runs on 120 or 220 Attached Images
Reply:Do you have an existing bench grinder? One of my best sanders is an attachment that uses a 2"x 3' zirconia belt.    The other one is simply a 4-1/2" hand grinder with a locking switch. I weld a threaded stud to a clamp and put it on the table. As redneck as that sounds it will outperform any of those cheaper wood worker grinders. Check out my previous threads for pics of it.
Reply:http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=248301Here is the link that shows how I made the grinder adapters.
Reply:Recently found a mint JET 6x48 for 500 on CL but the thing was too big for the garage(thing was gone in same day retail was 1k). Might be looking at the ryobi one since it seem to better one then the HF. If a Powermatic or Kalamazoo or dayton one comes up on CL Im snatch it up. Also one more thing where do everyone shop for the Zirconia abrasives?-2 speedglas 9002x + Adflo-Miller Dynasty 200DX-HH 210 Mvp
Reply:Originally Posted by blackbartDo you have an existing bench grinder? One of my best sanders is an attachment that uses a 2"x 3' zirconia belt.    The other one is simply a 4-1/2" hand grinder with a locking switch. I weld a threaded stud to a clamp and put it on the table. As redneck as that sounds it will outperform any of those cheaper wood worker grinders. Check out my previous threads for pics of it.
Reply:The bench grinder attachment in my link leaves the 6" woodworker types in the dust. The small grinder clamped to a bench is very versatile. Especially with all the attachments. It has enough power that sometimes I'll set it up as a main tool if the others are busy. Also, for knife makers, two of them, back to back make an "hollow grinder" for custom blades.