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I thought we needed a new chute for loading cattle. Where we usually load, is so rutted from the last 2 Winters, that it's impassable for anything but a tractor. Can't even drag a stock trailer through there with the tractor, or it would high center.Nothing fancy.....just a 16' alley with bows to tie it together. Cube them into a trap, then push them through the chute. Priced the steel, and wire cattle panels..............About $350. I refuse to spend that kind of money for a chute. 14ga square tubing at $2.21/ft, cow panels at $27ea(used to be around $16, less than a year ago).Got some extra corral panels laying around that we can cobble together. Or...........K'kins might have a line on some dirt that was removed from a tank battery dam that's soaked with spilled oil, when one of the bottoms failed on a tank. At least it wouldn't wash out, what with the thick sludge in it. Her boss mightl let her have it, complete with free trucking. Have to see if that works out. Might be enough to fix the hole, and have a goodly stockpile left over for the next gully washer. Might be near on 20-30 yards.If the Fed manages to derail the economy, we might see things become affordable again. This is absolutely insane.
Reply:Priced used 2 7/8 oilfield tubing in West Texas.$64 a joint. Double from a year ago.
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Originally Posted by farmersammm
Where we usually load, is so rutted from the last 2 Winters, that it's impassable for anything but a tractor. Can't even drag a stock trailer through there with the tractor, or it would high center.
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Originally Posted by farmersammm
I thought If the Fed manages to derail the economy, we might see things become affordable again. This is absolutely insane.
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Originally Posted by farmersammm
I thought we needed a new chute for loading cattle. Where we usually load, is so rutted from the last 2 Winters, that it's impassable for anything but a tractor. .....K'kins might have a line on some dirt that was removed from a tank battery dam that's soaked with spilled oil, when one of the bottoms failed on a tank. At least it wouldn't wash out, what with the thick sludge in it. Her boss mightl let her have it, complete with free trucking. Have to see if that works out. Might be enough to fix the hole, and have a goodly stockpile left over for the next gully washer. Might be near on 20-30 yards.
Reply:Yep.... knew a guy that thought his farm had been destroyed by a leaking pipeline.... turns out it wasn't that bad. At one time they used to spread used oil on knolls to restore eroded farmland.... potential for heavy metal contamination put a stop to that. If I was accepting any of that material on my farm, I wouldn't be posting about it online. If the feds get wind of that you'll be declared a hazardous waste spill and be forced to clean it up. I've seen the crap guys have had to go through with even old buried fuel tanks. Had to dig up all the "contaminated " dirt and bury it some place else and replace the dirty dirt with clean dirt.... that's the dirt...The harder you fall, the higher you bounce...250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:Buying the metal for your own use real s$%$.But you welding for others they pay over cost of metals. Dave
Originally Posted by farmersammm
I thought we needed a new chute for loading cattle. Where we usually load, is so rutted from the last 2 Winters, that it's impassable for anything but a tractor. Can't even drag a stock trailer through there with the tractor, or it would high center.Nothing fancy.....just a 16' alley with bows to tie it together. Cube them into a trap, then push them through the chute. Priced the steel, and wire cattle panels..............About $350. I refuse to spend that kind of money for a chute. 14ga square tubing at $2.21/ft, cow panels at $27ea(used to be around $16, less than a year ago).Got some extra corral panels laying around that we can cobble together. Or...........K'kins might have a line on some dirt that was removed from a tank battery dam that's soaked with spilled oil, when one of the bottoms failed on a tank. At least it wouldn't wash out, what with the thick sludge in it. Her boss mightl let her have it, complete with free trucking. Have to see if that works out. Might be enough to fix the hole, and have a goodly stockpile left over for the next gully washer. Might be near on 20-30 yards.If the Fed manages to derail the economy, we might see things become affordable again. This is absolutely insane.
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Originally Posted by John T
the smart thing to do would be to fix the area with crushed stone/ process then compact it ... instead of half azzing it. what do they say about doing the same thing over and over... and expecting different results?
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Originally Posted by 12V71
Yep, I just had 50 yards of nice 3/4" minus delivered and tailgate spread for $10 per yard. I was surprised by the price and the guy wasn't even a buddy of mine. We may do some future trading for more. He has a truck that will need work eventually.
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Originally Posted by whtbaron
That's dirt cheap.... I paid more than double that pre-pandemic for road gravel. I was going to cover the yard again last year but it never got done... I don't even want to think about what the price is going to be this year.
Reply:[QUOTE=12V71;8857344 And green cash is a motivator.[/QUOTE]Hmmm..... and I've got those green spray bombs...The harder you fall, the higher you bounce...250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
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Originally Posted by whtbaron
That's dirt cheap.... I paid more than double that pre-pandemic for road gravel. I was going to cover the yard again last year but it never got done... I don't even want to think about what the price is going to be this year.
Reply:And not to get on a rant about diesel ... but our state and a few others have suspended the gas sales tax..... BUT, it doesn't apply to diesel!!! so, prices will continue to rise.. for everything.Miller 211Hypertherm PM 451961 Lincoln Idealarc 250HTP 221 True Wisdom only comes from Pain.
Reply:Except for groceries in most cases I'm hoping the law of supply and demand will bring prices down. If you don't "need" it, don't buy it.Ol' Stonebreaker "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:I wonder what 40,000 pound prices are steel is today.Maybe just retail / wholesale price hike only and we get S#%$$ in the end.Dave
Originally Posted by mla2ofus
Except for groceries in most cases I'm hoping the law of supply and demand will bring prices down. If you don't "need" it, don't buy it.
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Originally Posted by mla2ofus
Except for groceries in most cases.
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Originally Posted by John T
I don’t know where you are shopping. But from everything I see, prices have gone up quite a bit since last year.
Reply:It is call a deit cutting back food the stores are just trying to help all lost weight.Dave
Originally Posted by mla2ofus
What I meant is groceries are something you "need".
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Originally Posted by mla2ofus
What I meant is groceries are something you "need".
Reply:But youre right. We all need to eat And we all need to die. Thats about the only things that are for certain in this life.Miller 211Hypertherm PM 451961 Lincoln Idealarc 250HTP 221 True Wisdom only comes from Pain.
Reply:The Shop Is Back Openmal2ofus: "If you don't need it, don't buy it". Absolutely, and in this case sort of a disappointment. I've decided to go ahead and make the damn thing, but it's half what it was supposed to be.
Can't remember the last time I set foot in here. It's time to get to it, and do a little mental therapy.
We decided that we'd go with an 8' chute, instead of 16', and see if it works. I can always lengthen it, if it proves unworkable. This way, it's a little over half the cost.
Reply:There is a lot to observe here. Funny how pictures tell a story. .
Miller 211Hypertherm PM 451961 Lincoln Idealarc 250HTP 221 True Wisdom only comes from Pain.
Reply:Be careful about accepting ANYTHING contaminated,, I can list a DOZEN cases where recently something "contaminated " was dumped,, then later it was required to be removed.Shingles, paint waste, things that were never a concern a couple decades ago WILL be removed, if found out.OIL contamination!! Around here, that is required to be incinerated,, just imagine what that will cost YOU!!If you accept it, you own it,, sorry,, I am positive he would give you free trucking,,,,,,,,,
Reply:I got the shop all cleaned out, ate supper, we watched some Yellowstone.........................and I decided to check back on the thread this evening. I happened to look at the pics I posted.I brought home 3 20' sticks instead of 3 24' sticks
I paid for 24', and the LWS dood, and I, loaded 20' pieces(sigh) He messed up by picking the wrong bundle, and I messed up by not noticing. The blame is on both sides. It's no problem, except for the fact that 20's won't work. I need exactly 72' of tubing.I'm just not used to seeing 24' sticks. I have only ever bought 20 footers. They fit on the trailer if you remove the spare, and run them out to the coupler at the end of the tongue. 24 footers should have hung over the back of the trailer by 4 feet...............and I just didn't notice
Wouldn't be a big deal if it was a weekday, but it ain't. They don't open up again till Monday.Now, I gotta pray that I have a 10 footer on the rack to finish out the cut schedule.
Reply:Well.... at least it's not just me. When we had to deal with neighbor's cows and no equipment, we just made corrals by strategically parking machines and trucks. Doesn't have to be pretty.The harder you fall, the higher you bounce...250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLesBack to sticker shock. Tall fescue grass seed went from $79.00 to $129.00 this season.
I remember when this Kentucky 31 was 30 bucks a bag. Every spring I
usually Johnny Appleseed on the bank where the dogs dig up. Not this year. Im just throwing hay. My attitude has changed. As long as its green Im good with it. I can get all the local hay I need Pro bono so to speak.
Miller 211Hypertherm PM 451961 Lincoln Idealarc 250HTP 221 True Wisdom only comes from Pain.
Reply:City slicker would not know what to do Where live that happens too. But I live in Clovis and you can ride a horse downtown too. If want see a old fashion rodeo just come to the Clovis rodeo at end of month. You see real cows aka Bulls.Dave
Originally Posted by whtbaron
Well.... at least it's not just me. When we had to deal with neighbor's cows and no equipment, we just made corrals by strategically parking machines and trucks. Doesn't have to be pretty.
Reply:Now JohnT, run over it with a mulching lawn mower when the hay is dry and then you can spread it evenly.Ol' Stonebreaker "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:I ordered 2 4x8 sheets of aluminum checkerplate back in Feb. Just came in but they got 5x10 sheets instead of 4x8. As it turns out the project will come out of one 5x10 so the 2nd one was kind of unnecessary. They said I didn't have to take it, but it was so nice and shiney.... don't think I'll make cattle penning out of that... 2 sheets of 1/8 with a bit of sheer work was $940.The harder you fall, the higher you bounce...250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:I saw Amazon 1 pound of lead for $14.95.I have over 100 pounds of lead and babit for bearings. Dave
Originally Posted by whtbaron
I ordered 2 4x8 sheets of aluminum checkerplate back in Feb. Just came in but they got 5x10 sheets instead of 4x8. As it turns out the project will come out of one 5x10 so the 2nd one was kind of unnecessary. They said I didn't have to take it, but it was so nice and shiney.... don't think I'll make cattle penning out of that... 2 sheets of 1/8 with a bit of sheer work was $940.
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Originally Posted by smithdoor
I saw Amazon 1 pound of lead for $14.95.I have over 100 pounds of lead and babit for bearings. Dave
Reply:That is a good one.Dave
Originally Posted by whtbaron
Time to get the lead out...
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Originally Posted by whtbaron
I ordered 2 4x8 sheets of aluminum checkerplate back in Feb. Just came in but they got 5x10 sheets instead of 4x8. As it turns out the project will come out of one 5x10 so the 2nd one was kind of unnecessary. They said I didn't have to take it, but it was so nice and shiney.... don't think I'll make cattle penning out of that... 2 sheets of 1/8 with a bit of sheer work was $940.
Reply:All the metal's cut, but can't weld in the high winds we've been having for about 3 days, or so. Gusts have been constant at around 35+mph. I believe they had upwards of 70mph gusts out in Western OK.Everything's set for the next relatively calm day. Tomorrow the wind's supposed to die down to around 20mph, which is doable.
This will be the FIRST time I've ever welded on a level surface. The new pipe stands make for an easy fixture setup. Gettin' downright modern around here
Even splurged, and got me a second Empire level to go with the little torpedo level. These are nice levels.
Reply:Like adjusting horses.Like lighting and the green Shag carpet n the shop .Dave
Originally Posted by farmersammm
All the metal's cut, but can't weld in the high winds we've been having for about 3 days, or so. Gusts have been constant at around 35+mph. I believe they had upwards of 70mph gusts out in Western OK.Everything's set for the next relatively calm day. Tomorrow the wind's supposed to die down to around 20mph, which is doable.
This will be the FIRST time I've ever welded on a level surface. The new pipe stands make for an easy fixture setup. Gettin' downright modern around here
Even splurged, and got me a second Empire level to go with the little torpedo level. These are nice levels.
Reply:Sam, have you ever heard of paint? It's that stuff that protects your projects and stops them rusting
I messed up with steel the other day too. Measured a job up needing 150x100x5 rectangular hollow section. Asked for material quote on 100x50x5 whilst having a brain freeze. Sent customer the quote, she accepted, I ordered the material... and then had to order an additional length of 150x100, that's £200 off my bottom line
Also whatever you do, don't be that idiot hick who accepts contaminated soil. Such an stupid thing to even consider. Soil doesn't improve ruts anyway, they'd be bad as ever in 6 months, only this time you'd have oil traces everywhere. You need to regrade it or lay some hardcore down!Last edited by Munkul; 04-13-2022 at 03:20 AM.Murphy's Golden Rule: Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.
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Originally Posted by John T
But youre right. We all need to eat And we all need to die. Thats about the only things that are for certain in this life.
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Originally Posted by Fast Leroy
Taxes, taxes are certain.....
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Originally Posted by Lis2323
and the original project is....?Tell us. The suspense is sheer torture. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by whtbaron
It was ordered for the light duty soldering bench I was working on back in Feb. Since winter has decided to return, it might be time to finish my winter projects...
Reply:I just like to be out standing in my field....The harder you fall, the higher you bounce...250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
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Originally Posted by farmersammm
All the metal's cut, but can't weld in the high winds we've been having for about 3 days, or so. Gusts have been constant at around 35+mph. I believe they had upwards of 70mph gusts out in Western OK.Everything's set for the next relatively calm day. Tomorrow the wind's supposed to die down to around 20mph, which is doable....
Reply:Ran into some trouble today. The pipe stands were too wobbly when the steel was clamped to the jig. Used up some work time adding jamb nuts to the tubes. Should have done it in the first place.
I can still half azz weld with the wire welder when it's set up for thicker material. Higher voltage, more amps, bigger puddle. It makes it easier to see what's going on. I'm so out of practice, and still haven't gotten in to see the eye doc, that things are not all that good anymore. I'm thinking I'm not a very good welder these days. I can't believe that I used to regularly weld 14ga with the little wire welder using flux core.
Anyways, the head frames are tacked. I don't anticipate doing a very good job on this thing. Might eat up the morning trying to re teach myself to run a damn welder
Reply:In the 1950's A36 steel cost was $0.08 per pound. In 1970's it was $0.12. 1980's $0.18. Now look at cost today. Dave
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Originally Posted by smithdoor
In the 1950's A36 steel cost was $0.08 per pound. In 1970's it was $0.12. 1980's $0.18. Now look at cost today. Dave
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Originally Posted by MinnesotaDave
...I don't want to look...it's scary!I don't know what the school will do on my order for next year. This year was way, way "over budget" already. Doesn't help that for 6 classes of shop, the entire budget is $1,500 for the year.
That's supposed to work for 2 welding, 1 machining, 2 wood shop and 1 construction class - including all the parts and materials for repairs.Laughable...
Reply:School's In Session
Hell............can't see messing with coupons all morning, so's to actually get something done..............decided to do some on-the-job-training I guess.
Although it's light weight, can't see flipping the thing around all day long.........and anyways, you can't weld if you can't do uphill.
Finally got the voltage in the right range, and wire speed is about where I want it(completely forgot where I used to run this crap at....was running way way too hot at the beginning). It's the gun manipulation that's rusty. Took 6 welds to get to this point
14ga is generally a BOOGER with gasless flux core. I'm just getting to the point of remembering how I used to whip over to the thin piece, while keeping heat in the solid piece. Take a few more welds to get back to where it ought to be...........................or not
This might be as good as it gets
Sigh.........
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Originally Posted by John T
And not to get on a rant about diesel ... but our state and a few others have suspended the gas sales tax..... BUT, it doesn't apply to diesel!!! so, prices will continue to rise.. for everything.
Reply:If still was doing work for others I would simply increase the to cover the increase in price.But today I use what have on hand . Till price goes down or find scrap metal.Dave
Originally Posted by MinnesotaDave
...I don't want to look...it's scary!I don't know what the school will do on my order for next year. This year was way, way "over budget" already. Doesn't help that for 6 classes of shop, the entire budget is $1,500 for the year.
That's supposed to work for 2 welding, 1 machining, 2 wood shop and 1 construction class - including all the parts and materials for repairs.Laughable...
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Originally Posted by Broccoli1
Diesel has dropped almost a dollar here in Los Angeles.2 weeks ago: $6.99Today $5.89 |
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