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Broken wheel fixedLeaking radiator on the to be fixed list (have to add half gallon anti freeze every time I fire it up, this is plus about a gallon of water)(this is why the hood is still off)Starter switch almost kaffooofnikTruck broken downBush hog broken downNow I gotta leaking cylinder, actually ALL of them

  Been putting this off for about a year, and it's to the point where it's running thru a gallon+ of fluid every time we use it.Thank God for YouTube Because I had the foresight to buy Prince cylinders when I made the loader...………………...parts are still available (buy US made stuff....it pays in the long run)I have highly erotic dreams where the thing is all put together right, WITH THE HOOD WHERE IT BELONGS, and I'm riding around happily puffing on a cigarette.
Reply:Hydraulic cylinder repair is relatively easy once you get in to it. Some seal picks and brake cleaner. Sometimes figure in gout the glands can take a bit. If you don’t have them look at the seal twister tool for installing the u cup wipersMillermatic 252millermatic 175miller 300 Thunderboltlincoln ranger 250smith torcheslots of bfh'sIf it dont fit get a bigger hammer
Reply:I was told that a few weeks ago at Jaco Beach
Reply:Because I had the foresight to buy Prince cylinders when I made the loader...………………...parts are still available (buy US made stuff....it pays in the long runProbably why they are all leaking now. (US Made)

I have highly erotic dreams where the thing is all put together right, WITH THE HOOD WHERE IT BELONGS, and I'm riding around happily puffing on a cigarette. I have a dream too. Seeing you ride around on a new Korean Tractor . You like that strange stuff if I remember correctly? Maybe raise some cabbage for your Kim Chi..




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Originally Posted by farmshop

Hydraulic cylinder repair is relatively easy once you get in to it. Some seal picks and brake cleaner. Sometimes figure in gout the glands can take a bit. If you don’t have them look at the seal twister tool for installing the u cup wipers
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Originally Posted by 12V71

Yeah, it's not too bad until you run into a 6 stage double acting telescoping cylinder with a 365" stroke, Or an 1800# lift cylinder out of a Cat 992 loader.




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Originally Posted by 12V71

Yeah, it's not too bad until you run into a 6 stage double acting telescoping cylinder with a 365" stroke, Or an 1800# lift cylinder out of a Cat 992 loader.




Reply:Seal kit is available for the 3 1/2 x 24 cylinder, but can't find the kit for the 3 x 20 cylinders.  Local people in Tulsa say they can match the packing materials IF I bring the piston in.  I'd rather have the parts in hand before I do a teardown, but I guess it is what it is.I remember when I built the damn thing.  I wondered, at the time, if the cylinders were a bit oversized for the job.  Most loaders available for this size tractor (about 7-10,000lbs depending on wheel weights, and front weights, etc) have smaller cylinders.  But, the only off the shelf cylinders that fit the bill were the larger bore ones, so I went with them.  I'm sure this has contributed to the overloading problems I have.  The cylinders will pick up a lot more than the tractor is capable of withstanding repeatedly.  If the tractor doesn't try to tip over, I'll pick it up

.  We've completely stalled the hydraulics picking feeders up out of the mud when they're buried about 2 feet in

  Hell...….we've handled full pallets of RediMix with the crazy thing

(which lead to a spindle failure a week later IIRC)
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Originally Posted by whtbaron

Oh, it doesn't need to get that big to get complicated. Our Morris cultivators are plumbed in series instead of parallel. Twice now I've taken them to the pro's to get new seals and they put them together wrong. If the bleed holes to the next cylinder aren't in the right place, the oil doesn't move through the system. Trans-hydraulic up here is slightly more valuable than gold so putting off leaky cylinders isn't an option.
Reply:In my defense......I've started to get some rates on dozer time.  We need to scrape the lot where the feeders are,, and pile it up.  Once we get down to firm ground, it oughta solve a lot of problems.  Problem is...…….they all have a 4hr minimum.  So......we're trying to figure out some other stuff that needs doing to fill the minimum time.
Reply:Hopefully your dozer guy is better than some we have used. Usually jobs were 1/2 day or full day. If they got done before lunch time you got off easy but if he got in after lunch it ran till 5. And if it wasn’t done by 5 even if a 1/2 hour would finish they’d be back in the morning and funny it would be noon when they were doneMillermatic 252millermatic 175miller 300 Thunderboltlincoln ranger 250smith torcheslots of bfh'sIf it dont fit get a bigger hammer
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Originally Posted by whtbaron

Oh, it doesn't need to get that big to get complicated. Our Morris cultivators are plumbed in series instead of parallel. Twice now I've taken them to the pro's to get new seals and they put them together wrong. If the bleed holes to the next cylinder aren't in the right place, the oil doesn't move through the system. Trans-hydraulic up here is slightly more valuable than gold so putting off leaky cylinders isn't an option.
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Originally Posted by 12V71

I get about 2 calls a year about Phasing cylinders, usually its because somebody replaced a cylinder with a bent rod without realizing it had the phasing feature. the plug on the barrel is a giveaway.
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Originally Posted by farmersammm

I'm paying about $40 for a five gallon pale at Tractor Supply....
Reply:If phasing is anything like synchronizing cylinders...…….it's almost impossible without a bunch of fancy feedback? valves.  Had a good conversation with Boostnjdm ("my name isn't Jim).  They might all go to either full extension, or full retraction, but anything in between...….they ain't movin' at the same rate/distance.  Nature of the beast, from what I understand (shrug)
Reply:I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing, but the Morris system is quite simple when it works, a pain when it doesn't. The cylinder sizes get smaller as you go down the line so some of the speed is controlled by the amount of oil moved. Other than that, the only difference is a port in either the cylinder wall or the piston itself that allows oil to flow to the next cylinder as it reaches it's capacity. When a cylinder starts sinking it usually means the problem is the seal in the cylinder ahead of it in the system.250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
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Originally Posted by whtbaron

I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing, but the Morris system is quite simple when it works, a pain when it doesn't. The cylinder sizes get smaller as you go down the line so some of the speed is controlled by the amount of oil moved. Other than that, the only difference is a port in either the cylinder wall or the piston itself that allows oil to flow to the next cylinder as it reaches it's capacity. When a cylinder starts sinking it usually means the problem is the seal in the cylinder ahead of it in the system.
Reply:Back to my junk

Picked up some pliers on Saturday that I think oughta work.  They pretty much look like the pliers in the video


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Originally Posted by farmersammm

I wasn't familiar with your system.  I think I found a good explanation of the system...…..I think


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Originally Posted by farmersammm

Back to my junk

Picked up some pliers on Saturday that I think oughta work.  They pretty much look like the pliers in the video


Reply:Was supposed to be about .07" of rain today

  More like 2 inches


  Thought I'd spend some time in the shop today, but I'm not willing to run extension cords thru that puddle

So...……………………………..


  There bein' absolutely nothing to do today because of the weather, I thought I'd load up a video I took yesterday.  Boredom is a dangerous thing

Pretty good showcase for evolution in welding skills.  I was just starting out when I made the loader, and it shows.  I'm, arguably(

), a little bit better these days