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I have one of the newer digital Elite helmets and pretty much hate the headgear it came with. Just too much crap, adjustments, and that swing out thing for the back of your head.Can i take it out and put in a basic ratchet type of gear in it. I dont have any of my older helmets anymore, so nothing to compare to.'Preciate itBigMoSent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
Reply:You should be able to fit the older style Miller headgear. https://www.millerwelds.com/accessor...ssembly-770246https://www.millerwelds.com/accessor...ories/headgear
Reply:I have been doing that for my last 3 helmets. I call the new headgear pipeliner headgear as it is fantastic to wear all day long. But it sucks as a fabricators headgear. You can purchase the old style and just change it out.Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by Welder Dave
https://www.millerwelds.com/accessor...ories/headgear
Reply:When I first saw the new headgear I thought it looked flimsy and prone to breakage. It's similar to the newer Speedglas headgear and I doubt it comes with any warranty either but maybe??? Sometimes the latest technology is a step backwards.Last edited by Welder Dave; 06-25-2021 at 04:49 PM.
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Originally Posted by Kelvin
Woah. I bet that headgear would last, jeez, darn near a whole shift before it started cracking, splitting and breaking all to pieces. Question: Is there any way they could, like, put any more holes in it than they already have? It looks WAY too beefy right now.
Need some new headgear for my Miller Digital Elite, but it won't be that model, I can tell you that.
Reply:Well, until my new headgear gets here, I did a shade-tree repair on my existing (broken) headgear. Took some cloth and a hot-glue gun and wrapped layers of cloth around where the headgear was broken ... basically like a broken-arm plaster-and-gauze "cast," except using several layers of cloth, hot glue to hold it in place, and then Titebond II waterproof wood glue after that to hold it all together. I've done the same thing with broken headgear for face-shields for grinding, and it generally lasts a few years...just another option for those of us with more time than money. (And if you need to weld before UPS delivers your new headgear.)
Reply:To the OP:Is this the one you’re referring to?
I didn’t like it at first and put in the version from the previous model I had.When that finally broke I put the one in the photo back in. I got used to it and it has held up for 4,5,6 (?) years now.Ernie F.
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Originally Posted by Kelvin
Woah. I bet that headgear would last, jeez, darn near a whole shift before it started cracking, splitting and breaking all to pieces. Question: Is there any way they could, like, put any more holes in it than they already have? It looks WAY too beefy right now.
Need some new headgear for my Miller Digital Elite, but it won't be that model, I can tell you that.
Reply:Yes was not a fan, took more time to fit it than I would have liked. Actually once you sort it out, works well holds the view position center. Biggest problem I had was the back pad, it was off center. (Arrow on the left) allowing the back pad to slide up on my head, looking down ... total PITAI corrected it, (bottom arrow). Those six rectangles one each side, adjust the distance. Of the LCD to your face. My hood the back pad was to far to the left. Bottom picture showing the tabs that allow the rectangle holes to be moved, centering the back pad. Move it back/out one hole, centered the back pad, big difference, hood stays on.
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Reply:If that headgear were molded out of virgin plastic, it would be literally unbreakable,,The first molders of plastics threw away the sprues from the molding process, the parts we got were great,,Then, at some point, a molder got the wise idea that he could chop, and re-melt the sprues, and improperly molded parts, to make more parts.1% remelt did not matter, then, more and more regrind was added, we, now as a society, look at this headgear and decide it will break with normal use.(When you "chop" and re-melt plastic, the long chains of the molecules making up the plastic gets shorter, and weaker, each time you chop, or re-melt the plastic, the molecules get shorter, and shorter,, . The shorter the molecule is, the weaker the plastic is. Also, the plastic is more susceptible to UV light damage, and other environmental degradation. If you remember, ALL of us owned a 1973 year model car,, and the dash board cracked and looked horrible. That is because the dash was molded out of almost all regrind. Car manufacturers have changed to using virgin plastic to mold dash panels,, so now they no longer crack.)I designed a molded plastic door handle to replace an aluminum handle. The handle was going to be used on a VERY expensive electrical cabinet. Half way through the design, I was approached by the customer, and was told that during installation, the electricians would constantly use these handles as a step!!
I was told the handles HAD to remain aluminum to be strong enough.We went ahead and finished the plastic handle, and then I set up a demonstration of hitting the handles clamped in a BIG vise with an 8 pound hammer.The customer came to the demo, I handed the hammer to the customer.They were able to break the aluminum handle, but, no matter how they tried, the plastic handle could not be broken.EVERYONE was amazed that a plastic handle that cost less than 10% of the aluminum handle was SO MUCH BETTER!
I did cheat, a little, the plastic was glass fiber filled, and I simply specified 0% regrind in the making of the part.If you want to make an unbreakable part out of plastic, it can be done.So, some of these headgears will be molded out of virgin plastics,, they will last for just about ever,,some people will happen to get headgear with some regrind.. we will end up reading the reviews about how their headgear broke after only a short period of use,,
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,, will be just the luck of how the part was molded,,,
Reply:Sometimes you need to use things to realise that they're not as weak as they might appear
Best headgear I've ever had or used. I've used my sentinels for tacking, for jobbing, and for 10 hour shifts continuously... no problems.I'm sure the Miller headgear is similar.The pivot point and the detent position for hood-up on the sentinel makes a difference, though. It pivots around your head, not straight up in front.Last edited by Munkul; 06-30-2021 at 07:09 AM.Murphy's Golden Rule: Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.
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Originally Posted by SweetMK
If you want to make an unbreakable part out of plastic, it can be done.
Reply:The prob for me is that swinging pivot thing in the back...where the ratchet adjustment is. Maybe its just me, but i cant get the damm thing to feel right and need two hands to manuever it onto my head. My older helmet i pick it up slide over my head and go to work, w little adjustment or fiddlin around. Bottom line, i will refit it w the older styleSent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by Kelvin
Woah. I bet that headgear would last, jeez, darn near a whole shift before it started cracking, splitting and breaking all to pieces. Question: Is there any way they could, like, put any more holes in it than they already have? It looks WAY too beefy right now.
Need some new headgear for my Miller Digital Elite, but it won't be that model, I can tell you that. |
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