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i like fabricating small stuff at home for my vehicles, motorcycles etc. well ive been needing some large throat c clamp pliers (like the photo above) for a long time and finally decided to search around the internet and buy some. right away i ran into the popular irwin brand but almost immediatly i discovered their pliers are from china. no thanks ill keep searching. i then stumbled on exactly what i was looking for by a brand called strong hand tools. they offer a bunch of cool magnetic holding gadgets as well. with a california adress i figured they must have a nice manufacturing facility there where they make all their great tools so i decided to give them a call. it didnt take long before the fellow on the phone had disappointed me when he said the pliers are from china. i then asked if any of the cool magnetic holders are made in california. nope they all from china he said. thats a shame and have a good day is what i said while hanging up the phone.browsing the internet further i found a compny i never heard of but offer the exact pliers i wanted. grip-on made in spain. hmm maybe these are high qaulity but i couldnt find any american distributor.so i keep searching for more companies offering the pliers i want and stumbled into proto. looking at the images theyre identical to grip-on and after a phone call to proto they confirmed their pliers are made in spain . so my hunch is grip-on is making pliers for proto and stamping the proto name. they were kinda pricey but i ordered two pair with 10" throat. should be here in couple days and ill report what i think
Reply:I found this seller on Google.I have no experience with them though.https://chadstoolbox.com/grip-on-locking-pliers/They aren't out yet, but Malco bought the old Vice Grip plant to manufacture their own line of pliers. Hopefully they will launch soon.https://www.malcoproducts.com/news/m...witt-nebraska/ZachLast edited by WTXBTUMOVER; 02-05-2021 at 09:04 PM.
Reply:Well Malco makes a lot of good stuff for construction tools, so hopefully they will come through. Tough to pay for the really good stuff for just occasional hobby use.-DaveXMT304 with: 22A Feeder, or HF251 Hi Freq DC TIG air cooled
Reply:I buy older Made in USA Visegrip style C clamp pliers whenever I can.
Strong Hand are made in China but are probably the most decent quality you can buy for the dollar. If you cant find reasonably priced used then buy this style now and thank me later
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Originally Posted by WTXBTUMOVER
I found this seller on Google.I have no experience with them though.https://chadstoolbox.com/grip-on-locking-pliers/They aren't out yet, but Malco bought the old Vice Grip plant to manufacture their own line of pliers. Hopefully they will launch soon.https://www.malcoproducts.com/news/m...witt-nebraska/Zach
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Originally Posted by Lis2323
I buy older Made in USA Visegrip style C clamp pliers whenever I can. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Reply:If the patents are expired and Malco makes the original style Vice Grips, they should become popular. I think corporate greed plays a big role in moving production to China. If they're saving all this money on production how come they never passed the savings on to the customer? The Chinese product is OK but not as good as the original. I don't know how Irwin can put "original" on the packaging. Back in the day the US built Vice Grip were the only ones to buy. Strong Hand or Grip On aren't bad but not as good as the original US built Vice Grips.
Reply:Yes, most if not all are made in China. I tried a cheap route once and found bearing down on the lock bent them. These are from BB Home Depot.
I’ve gotten excellent performance out of them so I’d highly recommend them.
Of course snagging a set of vintage Peterson Dewitt pliers is the best as pointed out by Lis.Here are vintage Peterson Dewitt pliers where I modified the jaws, also welding speed cranks. I do this for all my pliers. This particular set is probably 50 years old. They were so worn they weren’t locking so that’s the reason for the sacrificial mod.
Last edited by Continuum; 02-06-2021 at 05:34 AM.
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Originally Posted by WTXBTUMOVER
I found this seller on Google.They aren't out yet, but Malco bought the old Vice Grip plant to manufacture their own line of pliers. Hopefully they will launch soon.https://www.malcoproducts.com/news/m...witt-nebraska/Zach
Reply:The Milwaukee pliers are nice. I have a few pairs and I really like them. They seem to be well built. The adjusting screw turns smoothly and the flat end makes it easier to turn, even under a slight load.IIRC, they are made in Taiwan though.Zach
Reply:I have a decent assortment of the pliers. Blue Point, Milwaukee, Strong Hand, and Irwin, and Pittsburgh. The Blue Point were bought from Ebay as a group of six. These were most likely factory seconds since it turns out they don't like to open up on thier own. I need to go through and lube them and use them more so maybe they will loosen up. The Milwaukee Torque Lock are very nice.The Strong Hand feel like the best quality. The Pittsburgh long reach are poor quality. Edit: The Blue Point were made in Spain. With lube and use they will be good.
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Originally Posted by psacustomcreations
I have a decent assortment of the pliers. Blue Point, Milwaukee, Strong Hand, and Irwin, and Pittsburgh. The Blue Point were bought from Ebay as a group of six. These were most likely factory seconds since it turns out they don't like to open up on thier own. I need to go through and lube them and use them more so maybe they will loosen up. The Milwaukee Torque Lock are very nice.The Strong Hand feel like the best quality. The Pittsburgh long reach are poor quality. Edit: The Blue Point were made in Spain. With lube and use they will be good.
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Originally Posted by Lis2323
Pat I just got a few new Strong Hands like yours but havent actually used one yet on an actual project. How do you like this feature ...?
I like the look and finish of the Blue Points. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by Continuum
Yes, most if not all are made in China. I tried a cheap route once and found bearing down on the lock bent them. These are from BB Home Depot.
Ive gotten excellent performance out of them so Id highly recommend them.
Of course snagging a set of vintage Peterson Dewitt pliers is the best as pointed out by Lis.Here are vintage Peterson Dewitt pliers where I modified the jaws, also welding speed cranks. I do this for all my pliers. This particular set is probably 50 years old. They were so worn they werent locking so thats the reason for the sacrificial mod.
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Originally Posted by psacustomcreations
I have not really used that feature on them so can't comment on that. The times I really needed a lot clamping force, I just used two hands to close them. In general, I really like the Milwaukee and they were my favorite before I got the Strong Hand. I just spent the last 5 minutes or so on the Blue Points, lubing them and working them back and forth. They are much better now.The chrome on the other models limits the amount of slag that gets stuck to the clamp. I might be concerned with the paint on the Blue Point. Once the bb burns through the paint, would it stick to the clamp. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
Reply:I don't know if this is a good deal or not, but it looked interesting.
https://www.trick-tools.com/Welders-...l-Kit-WSK-7314Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk:
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Originally Posted by Lis2323
I was thinking that feature would be good when you have an assembly all clamped down and you are hesitant to remove the clamp in case the parts move. Now you can leave the clamp in place and use a small piece of round stock to tighten. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Reply:I just took Continuum's great speed handle idea and made my own. 5/16" bolt, regular nut shaved down to half depth and a nylock.
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Reply:What about the original Vise-Grips? IDK about all models but the deep throat swivel pad models are still made in USA according to them.https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0011361PS/Last edited by Mike_L; 02-06-2021 at 03:19 PM.Reason: Link Fixed
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Originally Posted by Mike_L
What about the original Vise-Grips? IDK about all models but the deep throat swivel pad models are still made in USA according to them.https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0011361PS/
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Originally Posted by psacustomcreations
I have a decent assortment of the pliers. Blue Point, Milwaukee, Strong Hand, and Irwin, and Pittsburgh. The Blue Point were bought from Ebay as a group of six. These were most likely factory seconds since it turns out they don't like to open up on thier own. I need to go through and lube them and use them more so maybe they will loosen up. The Milwaukee Torque Lock are very nice.The Strong Hand feel like the best quality. The Pittsburgh long reach are poor quality. Edit: The Blue Point were made in Spain. With lube and use they will be good.
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Originally Posted by djd775
Those Blue Points look just like Grip-On pliers to me. Sounds like Grip-On probably makes them for a few different distributors. I have several pairs of Grip-Ons and they needed the same lubrication and working to loosen them up. I really wanted to like the Grip-Ons but Ive been using the Irwins for years and I just cant get used to the reversed release lever on the Grip-Ons.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by Lis2323
Ive only used Irwin (Vise Grip) and I really dont like the release levers. Id like to give the reversed ones a try. They look more ergonomic. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by cornchip
...grip-on made in spain. hmm maybe these are high qaulity ...
Reply:i don't remember if i saw it here or on youtube but the person used a channel lock or another regular vice grip and after getting the clamped vice grip attached as tight as possible on work piece, then tighten adjusting screw some more which tightens clamped on even harder. also unloosen adjusting screw with another to easily remove. clear as mud but it works. some adjusting screws have that built in handle also.lincoln 125spmonkey wards 250 ac/dcmiller 211 w/spool gunahp 200 sx tiglotos ltp5000dof course duramax dieselFound Bowers Tool on ebay and have enjoyed shopping with them when they have something I need. They flag a lot of their products so you know they're made in USA or Germany, and they only sell quality tools. Kind of pricey, but I don't mind it if I'm getting quality. https://www.ebay.com/str/bowerstoolSadly, no deep vice grips.The last time I bought any locking pliers it was at an estate sale and I got a slew of them for only a couple bucks. I couldn't say no to a deal like that even if they are secondhand chicom crap. A few were Proto or Vice Grip, made in USA, but most aren't and will be saved for when I need to make a jig like Pat showed above.
Reply:No question that the older Peterson Vice Grips are better than the new ones, but I have both and I haven't seen any real problems with the Irwin ones that would keep me from buying them. They do have a shinier and cheaper look to them, but I can't say I've had them fail like the cheap Brand X ones. Those I won't buy.250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:forgot to update but the protos i ordered arrived. they say made in spain so for sure grip on is making them for proto
Reply:Welllllllllllllllllllllll, you know..... as has been said, just because something is "made in China" doesn't mean it's "Chinese." Like your laptop and smartphone were made in China, but they're American products made in Chinese factories. Just sayin' ..............-RuarkLincoln 3200HDHobart Stickmate LX235TWECO Fabricator 211i
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Originally Posted by cornchip
forgot to update but the protos i ordered arrived. they say made in spain so for sure grip on is making them for proto |
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