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Thought maybe a trailer fail thread might be good. Saw both of these today within a few miles of each other just west of Memphis on I-40. The first has 3500 lb axles which might explain the sagging.
The next is 2 3500 lb axles with 4" drop turned upside down and under the springs to get the trailer over the tires. LOL
Reply:Yeah, about 8K for the Bobcat alone plus the grapple bucket. Then there's the 2K for the trailer. Assuming it is a 7K trailer not a 10K one he's over weight. Even at 10K he's borderline. He's also got it loaded way too far forward from the looks of the front tires. He needs the weight back about a foot or so farther to the rear at least to load the trailer equally. Grapple ought to be in the empty flat bed.Not sure how you put those axles at 3.5K vs 5K or 6K. Lug count? I've seen 7K , 10K, 12K and 14K trailers that all look almost exactly like that. The 12's and 14's around here are almost nonexistant since they started cracking down on drivers of stuff like that without a class A license around here. Everyone I knew who used to have them dumped them and went to 10K trailers so their guys didn't need to get the full class A license ( especially since the DOT won't let you take the class A test with a rig like what is shown even though you need the license for one..) If they needed a heavy trailer they usually just went up to bigger tagalongs in the 20K range and were done with it..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:At least the bobcat is chained down! Haha!What do you drive? Looking down on those cars like that!
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Originally Posted by Canadian Welding
What do you drive? Looking down on those cars like that!
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Originally Posted by Canadian Welding
At least the bobcat is chained down! Haha!What do you drive? Looking down on those cars like that!
Reply:when I was doing research for my axle flip. (I just flipped the springs from the bottom to the top) I found out that it was actually pretty common practice for guys with travel trailers with drop axles to flip the axle over to get a 4" lift axle instead of a 4" drop axle. I didn't opt for that because of the added leverage on the springs and the axle itself is not meant to be upside down. but it's apparently not that uncommon to have drop axles set like that.There are no problems. There are only solutions. It's your duty to determine the right one.Hobart Handler 210Airco 225 Amp MSM Stinger
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Originally Posted by Bistineau
Judging by the wind sheild wipers in the second photo, and the mirror off to the far right, it must be a bus, since there is no hood out front. If it were a van, then the mirrors would be mounted out on the sides of the doors, not forward of the wind sheild.
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Originally Posted by Burpee
It's a wonder the meathead didn't anchor it with a blue 3/4 ratchet strap from Homeless Despot.
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Originally Posted by ThorsHammer
when I was doing research for my axle flip. (I just flipped the springs from the bottom to the top) I found out that it was actually pretty common practice for guys with travel trailers with drop axles to flip the axle over to get a 4" lift axle instead of a 4" drop axle. I didn't opt for that because of the added leverage on the springs and the axle itself is not meant to be upside down. but it's apparently not that uncommon to have drop axles set like that.
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Originally Posted by Canadian Welding
Ya, there is very little hood on it. Its little things like this that keep me busy all day!
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Originally Posted by welderj
Wouldn't want ya to loose any sleep because of me so here's a pic of my truck. The pictures came from the dash cam.
Reply:Just coincidentally, these trailers(lol) were at the truckstop tonight when I stopped. Been a good day for dumb drivers. I think the signs kinda put it all in perspective.
Reply:Haha! Thats great!
Reply:They should put signs up to warn people about those wide turns...............
Reply:It's not the turns, it's the soft shoulders....No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
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Originally Posted by welderj
Just coincidentally, these trailers(lol) were at the truckstop tonight when I stopped. Been a good day for dumb drivers. I think the signs kinda put it all in perspective.
Reply:that is classic!There are no problems. There are only solutions. It's your duty to determine the right one.Hobart Handler 210Airco 225 Amp MSM Stinger
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Originally Posted by welderj
Just coincidentally, these trailers(lol) were at the truckstop tonight when I stopped. Been a good day for dumb drivers. I think the signs kinda put it all in perspective.
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Reply:Those pics show what's wrong with companies that give someone just enough training to get their license and turn them loose. I've heard of a lot of bad wrecks from the same guys that would do that. Nice truck also. My company has some internationals, freightliners and Volvos. The Volvos are by far the most comfortable to drive, and ride in.
Reply:My favourite truck is my 74 KW needle nose with a 7800 kg Hihab
Reply:Came across this today. It might be a little light in the fore/aft bracing.
It does remind me of CEP in some ways, don't know why, but it does.
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Originally Posted by welderj
Came across this today. It might be a little light in the fore/aft bracing.
It does remind me of CEP in some ways, don't know why, but it does.
Reply:That trailer reminds me of a guy I worked for.If I simplify his normal instructions it goes like this..."Cut a crappy hunk of junk off that POS truck and weld it on this rusted crappy POS and make it look excellent."Anyone else work for that guy?
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Originally Posted by MinnesotaDave
That trailer reminds me of a guy I worked for.If I simplify his normal instructions it goes like this..."Cut a crappy hunk of junk off that POS truck and weld it on this rusted crappy POS and make it look excellent."Anyone else work for that guy?
Originally Posted by Excalibur
Welderj I agree. CEP is special in his own sort of way too. His parents probably appreciate him more than most of us just like the one that created that piece of work in your photo appreciates his creation more than the rest of us.
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Originally Posted by welderj
I only meant it reminded me of CEP because it's converted from bumper to fifth wheel. I hope he don't take that the wrong way.
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Originally Posted by M J D
Worked for some of them as well. There is so much fail on that last picture I wouldn't know where to start. Nice to see the strap " gussets" for extra insurance though.
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Originally Posted by MinnesotaDave
Those I-beam spacers look like mobile home frame pieces to me.Yikes...
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Originally Posted by welderj
No, they were heavier than that, but just barely. I like how he mixed them up so the stress points were not in line. Sent from my SCH-I200 using Tapatalk
Reply:You should see the bobcats and bobclones on 4400lb landscaping trailers being pulled by half tons round here by a certian group notorious for never carrying auto insurance.These trailers ride lower than a frogs *** and the tow vehicles front tires could roll over a snail with out cracking the shell, and of course these trailers don't have brake hubs.old Miller spectrum 625 Lincoln SP-135 T, CO2+0.025 wireMiller model 250 and WP-18V torchCraftsman 100amp AC/DC and WP-17V torchCentury 115-004 HF arc stabilizerHome made 4 transformer spot welderHome made alternator welder
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Originally Posted by MinnesotaDave
Well since he changed them up so the stress isn't in line, and they're heavier than mobile home frame, and have a couple flat straps for supports - I'm sure hauling a D9 is a good idea...
I'm comfortable sticking with "yikes" lol
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Originally Posted by welderj
Well, he did maintain that ever important frame flexibility that some like to see.
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Originally Posted by welderj
Came across this today. It might be a little light in the fore/aft bracing.
It does remind me of CEP in some ways, don't know why, but it does.
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Originally Posted by Excalibur
Welderj I agree. CEP is special in his own sort of way too. His parents probably appreciate him more than most of us just like the one that created that piece of work in your photo appreciates his creation more than the rest of us.
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Originally Posted by SuperArc
That pic reminds me not of CEP per say, but of what CEP armed with a 12-pack of beer and a cutting torch would do to that piece of $h!t. He'd saw it with the torch, then tell the owner "now, do it right this time."
Reply:Well, I guess it's my turn to be picked on!
WOW!
Is about all I can say about welderj's picture. I think if that's all I had to work with
. I would have log cabined the beams, and welded in a bunch of web to flange gussets, and some X-bracing. Hard to believe that thing can go down the road, and the cops not pull him over!
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Reply:The tractor-trailer pics remind me of last month my wife and I were returning from buying some goats, at the interchange under construction going from 77 south to 40 W in Statesville. The first thing we saw on 40 was a set of semi trailer wheels caught in the median cable barrier. Just down the road on the right was the tractor stopped with the trailer dragging. we could still smell burning rubber and the driver was just getting out of the semi. Thankfully it wasn't a "your number is up" situation.Lincoln SA200, HH135, Lencospot, HF80 Inverter, Rockwell 11x35 lathe, HF drill mill, Kama 554 tractor w/ FEL & BH, Belarus 250AS, lot's of Chinese tools
Reply:I ran into this thread some time back, and could identify with the need to get it done with what you can scrounge with no money to work with. I had spent quite a few years in the far north woods of Minnesota with no money and much to do. While I don't condone the trailer, or tow vehicle it may be better than a 110 mig can do.http://bridgeport.askmisterscience.com/bridgeport.htmLast edited by 59halfstep; 04-06-2014 at 01:42 PM.Charlie
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Originally Posted by 59halfstep
I ran into this thread some time back, and could identify with the need to get it done with what you can scrounge with no money to work with. I had spent quite a few years in the far north woods of Minnesota with no money and much to do. While I don't condone the trailer, or tow vehicle it may be better than a 110 mig can do.http://bridgeport.askmisterscience.com/bridgeport.htm
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A guy actually came by my shop to see how much it would cost to "fix it up".
Reply:Was it upside down on another trailer?GravelThe difference between theory and practice is that in theory there is no difference.
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Originally Posted by Gravel
Was it upside down on another trailer?
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Originally Posted by Bob
A guy actually came by my shop to see how much it would cost to "fix it up".
Reply:Only ever seen those kinds of tires on military vehicles. OOOLD military vehicles.MillerMatic 252Miller Xtreme 625Miller Digital Elite
Reply:We get some real interesting trailer fails on the Alaska highway I think I will start taking photos myself
Reply:Just looking at the pictures I would say that it would be cheaper to start from scratch.
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Reply:Daeyel we still use em lol. They've recently started upgrading though. Still got a few mid 80s 5-ton trucks though.NickESAB CaddyTig 2200iPowermax 45MM140 (Sold) |
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