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I've been scrounging around craigslist and the internet to get a decent welder (admittedly i don't even really know what that is) and finally i have been made an offer that seems respectable and I think will fit what I want to use it for. I basically want to learn, and for the most part don't have any real intentions of doing anything major at first, but would like to eventually do work on bikes, and maybe even build some fun (double high, that sort of thing) bikes with it. Anyhow, this is the offer i received:I have a Sears Craftsman 230 amp dual range arc welder,with two hoods, jacket,gloves,220 volt extension cord,over 100 welding rods ,and welding table.I wll send pictures if you are interested.The model number is 113.201372.Thanks.I can't really find any real information on this welder, probably because it's branded as craftsman and is really something with more available information under the hood, but based on the given specs do you think it will be a good machine to learn on and given the welder and accesories listed what do you think would be a reasonable price to get this used in fair condition?thanks in advance,mark
Reply:Depends on the condition of the hoods, jacket, gloves, and welding table. Get the pictures. The old stick welders are a dime a dozen anymore, though still very useful and desirable. There's just tons of them out there.Does it have DC welding capability or just AC?
Reply:the guy is new to digital cameras, but this is what he could give me, he said these were the ones that came out best, but that everything is in good condition and will be usable for a long time, I'm going to go and pick the stuff up so it's not like i'm going to get a bunch of surprise junk and get ripped off, if it's not what i'm expecting i'll just ask for less, but i have no idea what this kind of stuff costs... assuming that it is in reasonable but used condition, what would this stuff go for? Attached Images
Reply:I wouldn't even think about it unless the welder had DC output. Find that out first.Either way, the welder's not worth more than $100 to me, even if I needed one. You can guess the rest as well as I could, probably.
Reply:I really think that is a AC only machine
Reply:Here's a link to the same welder on Ebay - sold for $89.99 - to give you an idea of the going price.http://cgi.ebay.com/CRAFTSMAN-180-AM...QQcmdZViewItemSure, I can fix it... I got a welder!!!
Reply:I agree with all the above..but if you can get it all cheap it would be a good place to start learning...then you can decide what equipment you would like to upgrade to...like a ac/dc unit of better quality or even a mig....or if you find out you dont like welding you arent out much.....make sure the rods are the correct ones for that machine,not all rods will run on ac...look at the last digit in the 4 digit number on the rod.. Zero is cellulose sodium = DC reverse.One is cellulose potassium = AC or DC reverse.Two is titania sodium = DC straight and ACThree is titania potassium = AC or DC both.Four is titania = AC or DC both.Five is low hydrogen sodium coating = DC reverse.Six is low hydrogen potassium = AC or DC reverse.Seven is iron powder oxide = AC or DC straight.Eight is low hydrogen iron powder = AC or DC reverse. the first two digits are the tensile strenght in thousands,like 70 would be 70,000 psi tensile strenght...the third is the position...i think 1 is all position...2 is flat and horizontal....3 is flat only...someone correct this if i am wrong..hate giving wrong info.....hope this is helpfull....later
Reply:Originally Posted by chachi44089the third is the position...i think 1 is all position...2 is flat and horizontal....3 is flat only...someone correct this if i am wrong..hate giving wrong info.....hope this is helpfull....later
Reply:SahcerAs stated really depends on the price. You might end up with a lot of stuff that you really will never use. You will probably want an auto darkening helmet to start, thus those helmets will be obsolete. Probably won't need a jacket. Rods will be good to practice with. I assume you mean bicycles. Probably want to start with a mig/wire feeder. What is your price range?
Reply:Originally Posted by AricIt what I was tought in high school metal shop. (Can I quit working and go back to high school metal shop? )1: anywhere you can get the rod into2: flat (bead on top of a piece of steel) and horizontal bead on a vertical surface.3: flat onlyI've never even seen #2 and #3 rods.
Reply:Originally Posted by AricIt what I was tought in high school metal shop. (Can I quit working and go back to high school metal shop? )1: anywhere you can get the rod into2: flat (bead on top of a piece of steel) and horizontal bead on a vertical surface.3: flat onlyI've never even seen #2 and #3 rods.
Reply:Originally Posted by MAC7027024 is still quite common. I like it for fast and flat work.
Reply:hey guys, thanks for all the good information. i do mean bicycle and not motorcycle i've recieved a couple more offers since the last time i posted, a lincoln electric sp 200 220v, and a yet unnamed welder from a local artist who is going to get back to me. am i wrong in thinking that i'd be better off getting the hoods, gloves table and all that together than going with one of the others? seems like it would be a lot more expensive to get everything individually... mark
Reply:There are different points of view, but for that welder set up I'd be hard pressed to pay more than 30 dollars for it. The only thing that sticks out as being rather nice is the small welding table which seems to be well done. But I'm a tight wad and often don't apply the same worth to used stuff that others do. The biggest discounting here comes form the unknown lineage of the welder. If you knew you could get parts for it from Lincoln or Miller that would be a different story. Even so I've seen used Lincoln buzz boxes go for $60 around here. So figure out how much the welding table is worth to you and add that to the $30.Then comes the age old question of the application and this being the right welder for your interests. I would say that it is not , in fact it would be the last choice in my opinion. Bike (of any type) frames are usually light in weight and this is really where either TIG or MIG should be considered. So my advice would be to research welding a bit and chose the process that best would support your interest. I'm honestly thinking TIG would be #1 followed closely by MIG.As to some of the other stuff. Gloves - Buy new, don't even bother with somebody else's used gloves or underwear. These are expendable anyways.Mask or Hoods - The answer is highly variable here, it depends on condition and original quality. In the end I'm a fan of buying new here if you really need one and the machine you buy comes without. Used is doable but some of the newer hoods are really nice.All the above being said though do realize if that you get into this you may find yourself owning a number of welders. There are reasons for all the different processes and machines.Dave |
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