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As a welder, how important is it for you to know the testing of the weld?  For example, a place I used to work let the welders know that the finish welds were going to be X-rayed after the job was in production for a few days.  Almost all welders were upset.       That being said, when I started my current job my boss at the time didn't want me to waste time beveling the edges or putting multiple passes on my pipe joints.  Although it doesn't demand high pressure and it is usually only sch 10 SS.       But after reading on this board I've learned that it is important to make sure your stuff holds, do it right (though this far I've been very lucky, no reworks).  This is why I ask, there are always short cuts but, if you were unaware a joint was an X-ray joint would you put the time into it?       Me myself, no freakin' way!  But it wouldn't leak either.
Reply:Every bead should be your best bead...even on some old rusty junk that'll only hold the door open !!Anything worth doing is worth doing RIGHT
Reply:Every bead that's not critical is a practice bead for the beads that are critical.
Reply:All of my welds are very heavily tested.  Even if they weren't, I would put the time and effort into doing the best possible prep and weld because I was raised with that type of work ethic.  If it is worth doing, it is worth doing well.  Why bother doing it at all if you aren't going to do your best?
Reply:Originally Posted by olddadEvery bead should be your best bead...even on some old rusty junk that'll only hold the door open !!
Reply:~~~What they said~~~I was putting lower ports in a cell tower. I had done one and 1/2 of the second one and the owner of the company called and said the both were being inspected.  I Spent a lot of time grinding which I usually don't do.      I just went to pieces.    Both ports passed AWS visual.   Phew!DavidReal world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:[QUOTE=weldrwomn]All of my welds are very heavily tested.  Even if they weren't, I would put the time and effort into doing the best possible prep and weld because I was raised with that type of work ethic.  One of my instructers in the military always said the best welder is a lazy welder.  My pets have a better work ethic, have no problem admitting it.  But I know what will hold and what will not.Why bother doing it at all if you aren't going to do your best?[/QUOTEBossman!  Nuff said.
Reply:[QUOTE=HT55] Originally Posted by weldrwomnWhy bother doing it at all if you aren't going to do your best?[/QUOTEBossman!  Nuff said.
Reply:What do you make that they must move out the door so fast the boss does not want you to do it correctly?I know of a boss like that and I don't thing I could work for him.  From time to time my boss get stressed out and wants to do something rush, I reluctantly agree while expressing my dislike of doing a crappy job.  Within the hour he come to his senses and I do it the proper way.Me!
Reply:I'd be willing to wager there are no regular posters to this forum that would accept that as a valid reason for doing less than their best. Did I say I didn't do my best?  Jobs do not leave my shop without being my best.  I can state for fact that one of the jobs I held in the last 10 years was left for that very reason !! [/QUOTE]What can I say, good for you.  On my end money talks.
Reply:Originally Posted by Me!What do you make that they must move out the door so fast the boss does not want you to do it correctly?I know of a boss like that and I don't thing I could work for him.  From time to time my boss get stressed out and wants to do something rush, I reluctantly agree while expressing my dislike of doing a crappy job.  Within the hour he come to his senses and I do it the proper way.
Reply:We seem to be going in circles...I'm done here.Anything worth doing is worth doing RIGHT
Reply:shortcuts lead to longcutsthe day you stop learning in this tradeis the day your in your grave
Reply:clean up material  as best you can and do the weld like it was your first best weld you ever made and keep that in mind , if you rush it there will always be room for mistakes , the boss will always complain , thats a boss
Reply:Originally Posted by HT55olddad, I respect your opinion as much as anybody here, but, this is actually more of a fit up question.  Sorry to all if I didn't make that clear.  I always try to put my best bead forward even if it hurts.
Reply:I didn't start this thread to complain about my boss or look for advice on how to be professional.  I like my job, and my boss seems to be happy with my work.  It was just an experience I came across in the past that welders, not even a job I was on, were not informed of the testing of their welds which were to be x-rayed.  I was asking if knowing the testing requirements (which should have been in the job folder) was important to you.
Reply:every company has there own guide lines if they x-ray my welds no big deal dosnt matter to me , when I worked for CB&I they x-rayed every thing but there was never any mention of it or any thing mentioned about it in the employee book , so its just hit and miss as to who you work for and what is being welded.
Reply:You might be surprised how many times on a 10% xray job I've had the boss come up to me and say "there's no way we'll boom that butt" just because it's in a sh1t of a place and the fitter has made a balls up of fitting it.   Then inspection comes along and say "we'' boom that one".    I'm a lazy welder as someone was saying earlier, I weld to code, no more.   If the client is paying for 1104 then that's what they get, the company doesn't make money if they price the job on 1104 and I'm welding it to ASME 1X.I'd rather be hunting........USE ENOUGH HEAT.......Drifting around Aussie welding more pipe up, for something different.....wanting to get home.
Reply:but I believe the original question was after reading threw about x-ray and as I said every company is different , and you are write (wire hunt )and (ht55)I say the same thing .