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Hey guys, I dont have power enough at my house to run a welder.  I was going to replace my box to fit more breakers but after hearing what that could cost I am now considering saving up for a used engine driven model.  I am so confused about them though.  I have no idea where to start.  I would like on that stick, migs, flux core, and somekind of TIG.  AC/DC.  There are so many models I dont know where to begin.  Whats a pretty popular repair truck welder.  Im only 17 and would someday like to have a welding rig.  I dont know how much used welders are worth ethier.Could I get one like I listed for under $5,000?  Sorry for all the questions on here lately but I want to know all I can about welding and the people on here are great.  Thanks Tom
Reply:a miller trailblaser 302 will do every thing you need but if you want to do high frequency A/C TIG you will have to have a high frequency box. A new one from www.RamWeldingSupply.com costs $3,928.00.
Reply:Does the trailblazer also have the 10,000 watt generator?  I guess Tig wouldnt have to be on the machine since I have no idea how to TIG weld but it Im going to learn someday.  Thanks Metal.Tom
Reply:Nevermind about the generator question.  I just looked at the machine.  I see it goes to DC 300A and 225 AC.  ive seen some welders that go up to 500 amps.  Will you ever use that much power or is the trailblazers power pretty good for most jobs?  Once again sorry for all the annoying questions.
Reply:i would go with the 302 trailblazer or if you wanted something smaller but onlydoes mig and flux core the renegade 180 is a nice machine
Reply:Lots of engine drives will support multiple welding processes.  All will stick weld and DC TIG weld.  Support for GMAW/FCAW varies from unit to unit.  Capability to do AC TIG for aluminum is limited to a few models; trailblazer and Ranger GXT are some of them.  Both are commonly found on service trucks.   How about you start with those 2, and read up about them on the Miller and Lincoln websites?Miller has some good resources for guiding a potential buyer through the choices in engine drive technology.  Lincoln probably does too.New trailblazers are rated for 11000 watts peak, 9500 watts continuous power.  I'm not sure what the Ranger's are rated for.Keep in mind that there are disadvantages to an engine driven welder.  There's quite a bit more maintenance.  You need to be aware that they can make a considerable amount of noise, and exhaust fumes, even from one powered by propane/LP gas.  They need to be properly vented or run outdoors.  They're usually stored outside, so you may need to secure them against vandalism and theft.  Fuel for an engine drive will cost a lot more than electricity from the power grid, over the long haul.Best way to check prices on used welders is visit Ebay's website and watch auctions for these two types of welders.  You'll get a pretty good feel if you watch a couple week's auctions for what the market price is.  There are lots of companies that sell used engine drives over the net as well.  Do some work on your own and you'll find everything you need to know.Benson's Mobile Welding - Dayton, OH metro area - AWS Certified Welding Inspector
Reply:300 amps will cover just about anything except heavy duty arc gouging or running the largest diameter fluxcored wires.  Unless you're building ships, skyscrapers, army tanks, or the like, a 300 amp welder will do everything you need.I have a Lincoln Classic 300D, and I rarely run it at more than 150 amps.  IF I was set up for carbon Arc gouging, I'd use the full capacity of the machine....For starting out, there's no need for you to look at machines rated over 300amps.  In fact, a used Bobcat225 would probably handle everything you need at the start,  except AC TIG. Originally Posted by 99trxriderNevermind about the generator question.  I just looked at the machine.  I see it goes to DC 300A and 225 AC.  ive seen some welders that go up to 500 amps.  Will you ever use that much power or is the trailblazers power pretty good for most jobs?  Once again sorry for all the annoying questions.
Reply:Depends on the unit. Many welder/generator sets are DC only, so AC tig is out with those units. You can run mig/FC from almost any welder/generator but in some cases you need to use a voltage sensing feeder (VS) as the units are CC only, primarily designed for stick and tig. Some units are CC/CV so you can do mig/FC with either a Voltage sensing feeder or a remote feeder. (VS or RC). Not that you still have to buy a feeder of some sort to do mig/FC with the machine. Same with Tig, You need to get a tig torch at a minimum and if you want to do more than scratch start you need other accessories. You need a HF unit also if you want to do AC tig on a machine that will run it.I know several guys that rather than get the add ons for the welder/generator, just plug in their tig unit to the AC receptacle and just use the generator portion to power the tig unit. I've seen the same thing done with mig, but the suitcase feeders are more common.Don't forget the noise one of these will make. If you plan to run this to weld in a residential neighborhood, don't expect to weld late into the night without pi$$ing of the neighbors.Costs: I've seen small stick only machines run $500 used, others you can expect up to $12K+ for some units. If you want a good machine CC/CV that does all you want, expect to spend a good bit of change for the welder/generator. A feeder will probably run you $500-600 and up used, depending on if it's a VS or RC type, brand, age condition etc. I can't guess on the tig parts and HF unit.A nice used Bobcat or better a Trailblazer would fit your requirements.
Reply:Thanks everyone.  Im still very unfamiliar with welding terms and abbreviations.  What does CC/CV mean.  I work on engines all the time.  Its another thing I like doing so I would maintain one pretty good.  I live in the middle of now where so noise isnt a problem at all, neathier is the fumes.  It would be set up where no one could really see it and there not just gunna walk off with this big of a machine to easily.  Its gunna be pretty close to my house. Tig is def. not something the machine has to have.  As long as I could get a TIG machine and then run it off the power the big welder makes that would be fine.  Diesel is another thing, is a diesel machine more effiecent than a gas powered machine.  The diesels are quite abit more everywhere I look.  I dont want anything that doesnt do stick since thats what im best at and like the most.  thanks again to everybody on this forum.  Ill look up the 2 machines and compare them.
Reply:CC is constant current-the amperage stays the sameCV is constant voltage-the voltage stays the same but the amperage may change
Reply:CC is constant current, it's used for stick and tig.CV is constant voltage, it's used for mig and FC.CC/CV is a unit that does both.One issue you will find with diesel is that they are usually in large DC only machines and frequently many of those are constant current only as they are not used for mig/FC. Also many of the large older units are weld only, no generator capasity.I've looked long and hard at diesel machines. Small diesel machines like Trailblazers used are not common. The added cost discourages many from going that route. For an occasional user I doubt the cost is worth the advantages.
Reply:don't be too sure about someone not walking off with that big of a machine...I've had a friend lose a 4 wheeler that was chained to a snowmobile parked 6 feet from his house. If someone see's something they want..they will find a way to take it..
Reply:Thanks, I just looked on millers website at the gas and diesel trailblazer, Its almost a $5000 difference.  Thanks for explaining that to me.  I just looked on ebay and found a used bobcat 225.  Its older but still has the generator capacity.  Doesnt have as mush horsepower as the new ones and the generator isnt as high of watts as new. heres the link if someone has the time to look and tell me if this machine is worth.  It doesnt come with leads.  http://cgi.ebay.com/Miller-Bobcat-22...3A1%7C294%3A50
Reply:The machine LOOKS nice, whether it is or not is a good question. I seriously doubt it will go at that price. $2200-2800 are number I saw just looking on CL for similar machines (looking for his local asking price) It is a CC/CV unit so it will do mig with either feeder IIRC. Note, even though I see free shipping at the top, he notes local pickup only, but will drive up to 100miles for a fee at the bottom. Shipping that could add a good bit if you end up paying that.I personally wouldn't get a machine I couldn't test run or at least have a good knowledgeable mechanic go over first. Also watch out, there have been some scams on welder/generators on CL so be sure its real before you leap.
Reply:the low range of the amps is somethingto look at too if you want to tig the TBgoes down to 10 amps the bobcat isonly 50 amps
Reply:another thing to keep in mind is the cost of the machine is one thing, but you will still have to buy the accessories for what you want to do.  You'll need cables for stick welding so add a couple hundred bucks, and if you want mig or flux core you are gonna have to buy a feeder a used one will go in the $800 to $1000 range. Then if ya want to tig you'll need at the bare minimum a tig torch with lead, and a regulator.  So another couple hundred.  and finally if you want AC Tig you can throw another $800 in there.  So the accessories will alot of times add up to the cost of the machine.  Keep that in mind when looking for a machine.  I also agree with DSW.  I wouldn;t buy a machine that I couldn't run.  Good luckI'm a Lover, Fighter, Wild horse Rider, and a pretty good welding man......
Reply:Yes, Diesel machines are much more expensive.  But, generally speaking, a gas engine will run about 5000 hours before needing a major overhaul.  A comparable diesel will run 15000 hours.  Before you nay-sayers chime in, yes, all these engines will run a long, long time with proper care and maintenance.  So, for a new machine...about x2 the price for x3 the life.  If you can afford it, and you want a more fuel efficient, more durable engine, diesel is a good choice.On the downside, they're more expensive to purchase, noisy, much, much heavier, and prone to cold weather starting issues. Originally Posted by 99trxriderThanks, I just looked on millers website at the gas and diesel trailblazer, Its almost a $5000 difference.  Thanks for explaining that to me.  I just looked on ebay and found a used bobcat 225.  Its older but still has the generator capacity.  Doesnt have as mush horsepower as the new ones and the generator isnt as high of watts as new. heres the link if someone has the time to look and tell me if this machine is worth.  It doesnt come with leads.  http://cgi.ebay.com/Miller-Bobcat-22...3A1%7C294%3A50
Reply:You may be better off going with an inverter tig/stick welder, like a Maxstar (DC only) or Dynasty (AC/DC)  and a small mig welder, like a Millermatic 211, which can run on both 120v and 240v.   You'll spend less money and the neighbors won't have to listen to your engine drive every time you want weld in the garage or driveway.  The inverters don't suck up very much juice and neither does the small mig welder.  If  you can get 30 amps of 240v power, you can run them.  The mig only needs 20 to 25 amps on 240v.If you have your heart set on an engine drive, forget the Bobcat, it doesn't have remote control or contactor capability, which will limit you on what mig/tig devices you can run.   The Trailblazer or a Lincoln Ranger would be my choice.   I use my Bobcat as a generator to run the Passport mig and the XMT multiprocess welder.  From the XMT, I stick, dc tig and mig with a wire feeder.   The Bobcat is a great generator and an ok stick welder, and that's about it.MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:if you want to see how you like a welder before you buy it go to a welding store and see if they rent welders
Reply:That's a good idea.  I have thought of some day renting a Pro 300 one day, then renting a Pipe Pro the next day, to see how they compare.  I know 2 local places rent Pro 300's.  I don't know if either of them rents Pipe Pro's though.   How much does a rental cost per day?MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:I happen to be selling an older miller bobcat 225 like the one you are looking at on ebay.  Its a complete trailer mounted rig with reels for cables and hoses, leads, etc.   Its a great starter machine.  I bought it used two years ago from a buddy to get started and paid for it on the first job I did with it.   Its in the forsale sectionLincoln 300 Vantage 2008300 Commander 1999SA250 1999SA200 1968Miller Syncrowave 200XMT350MPA/S-52E/xr-15Xtreme 12vs Millermatic 251 w/30A  Millermatic 251 Dialarc 250 Hypertherm 1250 GEKA & Bantom Ironwokers
Reply:I don't get it.  If Miller can make the Renegade 180 with Mig/Flux capacity, and Lincoln can make the Power Arc 5500 which ios arc only, why can"t they make one that has all 3?
Reply:Originally Posted by DesertRider33That's a good idea.  I have thought of some day renting a Pro 300 one day, then renting a Pipe Pro the next day, to see how they compare.  I know 2 local places rent Pro 300's.  I don't know if either of them rents Pipe Pro's though.   How much does a rental cost per day?
Reply:I dont plan on buying the welder I just listed.  I dont plan on buying one for awhile.  I was just going to watch that one and see what it went for so i can get an idea of used prices.  I dont want to get one that doesnt come with leads.  I also want to be able to look and use the machine before I get one.  I have no intentions of buying a machine on ebay or CL unless its close enough to go look at.  Noise isnt really an issue.  My and my best friend who is also my neighbor both race 4 wheelers and we ride all the time right behind my house and our race machines are pretty loud. sometimes we have 4 or 5 people here.  so noise isnt an issue.  Im surrounded by farms.  Id like to rent one too but how much does that cost, there really isnt an welding supplie shops around me.  Ok. so heres a stupid question.  Im embarresed to ask this.  But why would I need a different feeder for the MIG.  You cant just get a spool of wire, lift the cover,install the wire, hook the gun up and weld?  So I think its going to be the trailblazer or the Ranger.  Havent looked at the Ranger yet.  I want something that in a couple years can go on the back of my truck.  Im not looking to buy right now as ive got to fix my truck and i just got out of school for the summer and work is kind of slow because of all the rain in northeast PA so itll be awhile before I have anything. Thanks everyoneTom
Reply:Originally Posted by DesertRider33You may be better off going with an inverter tig/stick welder, like a Maxstar (DC only) or Dynasty (AC/DC)  and a small mig welder, like a Millermatic 211, which can run on both 120v and 240v.   You'll spend less money and the neighbors won't have to listen to your engine drive every time you want weld in the garage or driveway.  The inverters don't suck up very much juice and neither does the small mig welder.  If  you can get 30 amps of 240v power, you can run them.  The mig only needs 20 to 25 amps on 240v.If you have your heart set on an engine drive, forget the Bobcat, it doesn't have remote control or contactor capability, which will limit you on what mig/tig devices you can run.   The Trailblazer or a Lincoln Ranger would be my choice.   I use my Bobcat as a generator to run the Passport mig and the XMT multiprocess welder.  From the XMT, I stick, dc tig and mig with a wire feeder.   The Bobcat is a great generator and an ok stick welder, and that's about it.ok.  so im looking at feeders on lincolns website..HAHA..im so confused.  I have no idea whats what.  Help!!  Sorry
Reply:Originally Posted by 99trxrider But why would I need a different feeder for the MIG.  You cant just get a spool of wire, lift the cover,install the wire, hook the gun up and weld?
Reply:99trxrider check your pm's.
Reply:Thanks for the patience with me guys.  I dont understand the engine driven units at all.  I guess when i looked them up and it listed they could do all these different things I thought they came ready to do that and you didnt need to spend about $3000 to be ready to put it to work.  Can I stick weld with one without buying another actual stick welder?  Or do these just serve best as a powersource?  Im just trying to learn about all the different machines.  I still want an engine driven machine though because its gunna cost me almost $1000 to get my house wired and im 17 and a senior in high school and i dont really want to spend that kind of money to get the house wired when im not going to be here my whole life.  Thanks alot guys. This has really helped.  Thanks DSW and about the MIG welders. yes it makes sense.  The generator is the power sourse but the feeder takes the wire and the gun and runs off the big unit.  I hope thats right anyways?? pm's will be checked.
Reply:Most are arc welders too with nothing else to buy other than leads.  Another cheap on is this:http://www.hobartwelders.com/product...champion10000/Even comes with leads, but eventually you will want longer leads.  It does DC arc only.  And, DC tig only.
Reply:I looked at that one too.  But it didnt have any other process listed that it could do?  Would I be able to run a MIG on it with a feeder?  Id really like AC to.  Do you find your self needing AC anytime.  I have no idea what the difference is between all the kinds of TIG you can do, touch, scratch all the good stuff.  I never learned how to TIG.  Ill save that for another thread sometime though.  Sorry for all the questions that all of you expieranced guys probably think are completely stupid.  Im tryin to learn as much as I can before im out of school.
Reply:Your questions are not stupid at all.  NOT asking questions is stupid.  Look, there is a lot that goes into this, and the equipment is expensive.  The last thing you want to do is blow your wad on something that will not be what you want.  Do a lot of research, like you are, and you will wind up with the equipment and tools that you need. But be warned....  It gets addictive!  You'll always find something else that you simply can't live without.
Reply:Thanks JC.  haha..I already know its addicting and im only 17 and dont even have my own welder.  I really want an engine driven unit for the generator and because in a couple of years I really want to have it sitting on the back of my truck and be able to put it to work.  So its ethier get the generator/welder or just a generator and plug the electic machines in to it.  Id like the generator welder becuase its a stick welder from the beginning.  What I didnt know was that id have to get all this stuff to run a MIG.  I could def. live without a MIG until im out of school and working.  Stick is what I really enjoy doing.  I have no idea how to TIG so until I take a TIG class I could do without anything extra for that too.  Id like to get a machine and make some farm gates to help pay for it and some benches or tables.  I wouldnt even care if I made money on them just as long as I could get the expierance.  I can fabricate pretty decent..I JUST DONT HAVE A WELDER!!! Its so frustrating not having a machine.
Reply:I am saving for a Trailblazer or a Bobcat, but in the meantime, you want to know what I use?  In the back of my truck I have a 6500 watt generator that can handle my Lincoln tombstone (220v) up to about 90 amps (it only has a 30amp breaker, but needs a 50).  Past that it starts to trip the breaker a lot.  But, it can power my mig, flux-core, grinders, fan, lights, and nearly everything else I need.  I have started doing repair work and some fabbing, and in the mean time I will be saving for what I really want.  Then, I will have a nice generator to power the house if another hurricane comes this way and I am out of power for 3 weeks again.But in the mean time, I am working, have all the juice I need for now, and I am picking up more work everyday.
Reply:I want the trailblazer 302.  Bye the time I got a small generator and a welder id probably be pretty close to  being able to get the trailblazer.  Can you put a bigger breaker in your generator?
Reply:99trxrider, If all you want to do is be able to stick, id look for a SA 200, 250, Sae 300 etc.  The two cylinder machines are nice (i have a bobcat) but an old pipeliner welds a lot better.  If you do decide to Tig (DC only, mild and stainless) buy a Weld Craft tig rig (around $250-$300) and you'll be set.  I have a Lincoln Sae 300 pipeliner.  Bought it a little over a year ago for $875.  With that machine, I have a few more amps available for air arcing and I also have a pipeliner if I get on a pipeline job.  Buying used equipment is a risk but you wont go wrong with an old pipeliner.  Look for a SA 200.  Parts are readily available and they are easy to work on.  just my 2 cents.
Reply:Originally Posted by 99trxriderI want the trailblazer 302.  Bye the time I got a small generator and a welder id probably be pretty close to  being able to get the trailblazer.  Can you put a bigger breaker in your generator?
Reply:Id love to have a pipeliner didnt think youd be able to get one that cheap?  Is yours a diesel?
Reply:I just saw an ad on CL for 2 SA-250's at $3000 each.  That seems to be the going price, even for a 30-40 year old machine.  But, if I remember right, wasn't there something about the generator portion, that the tool had to be DC or brushless, or something like that?  To me, a pipeliner machine is a good machine, but best suited for pipeline work, not for general fabrication like what I do.
Reply:yeah I think it would be to big for me.  Not just the power but the body on them is huge.  I would love to work on the pipeline coming to my area though.  I think pipe welding is fun.
Reply:My Sae has a gas engine.  Install a inverter and you can run standard AC tools.  Check out the "our work" page on billswelderrepair.com.  I think they have one or two pics of pipeliner welders with an inverter.  As far as a "big" machine, I've seen pictures of 2 SA 200s in a 8 foot pick up bed.  I know they fit pretty well right behind the cab of a F 250.  The old lincolns are one of the finest engine drive welders ever made.  They can take a good welder and make him/her's weld beads look 2 x's as good.  Does the welder have to be on a truck bed?  Put it on a trailer.  My first engine drive welder was a 1988 Miller Big 40 G.  Bought it for $1600.  It made me about $30,000 before it blew the governor out.  I used to be a miller fan but for stick welding of all kinds, an old lincoln gives the operator better control of the arc, and better looking weld with less effort.  I am not knocking on any other brands (like I said earlier I have a miller bobcat 250) -the old gray lincolns can give you a great machine for not a whole lot of $$.  And don't show up on a pipeline job with any but! "If it an't grey, you can't stay!"
Reply:What year is your 300 Tye?
Reply:http://cgi.ebay.com/Lincoln-Welder-P...3A1%7C294%3A50Thats really nice 69 SA 200 pipeliner.  Ive wanted a pipeliner for a long time but didnt know you could find them for less than 7000 so i ruled them out.  For arc welding im sure you cant beat one.  But I want to be able to MIG too.  And would like to have a repair rig a Pipeliner is really for a repair truck is it?
Reply:I started the mobile portion of my welding service with a used Generac 4000XL portable gas generator I bought for $250 in very nice condition, which I already owned cause I bought it originally for use with my camper for desert trips, and a barely used Millermatic 175 mig welder (220v), in excellent near new condition, that was about $500 with a bottle of gas and a cart.  I put some fluxcore wire in the mig and those and a tool box with hand tools and a couple milk crates with grinders, chop saw, sawzall,  drills, extension cords, etc.  It all fit in the back of my longbed mini truck.   I still have the generator and 175 mig and mini truck and had to put them back into service a few months ago when my welding truck was in the shop for 3 weeks.  You don't need alot of money or a new Trailblazer to get into mobile welding.  Start small with equipment you can afford now and work your way up from there.  MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:The pipeliner isn't the best choice for general repair and fabrication welding where you need more generator power and more process capability.  The Trailblazer or Ranger are the best choice for that, unless you're going to be doing heavy structural fabrication, then a bigger multi process machine is better, like a Pro 300, Big Blue, Big 40, Vantage, etc, anything with big balls and CC/CV remote capability.MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:Originally Posted by DesertRider33I started the mobile portion of my welding service with a used Generac 4000XL portable gas generator I bought for $250 in very nice condition, which I already owned cause I bought it originally for use with my camper for desert trips, and a barely used Millermatic 175 mig welder (220v), in excellent near new condition, that was about $500 with a bottle of gas and a cart.  I put some fluxcore wire in the mig and those and a tool box with hand tools and a couple milk crates with grinders, chop saw, sawzall,  drills, extension cords, etc.  It all fit in the back of my longbed mini truck.   I still have the generator and 175 mig and mini truck and had to put them back into service a few months ago when my welding truck was in the shop for 3 weeks.  You don't need alot of money or a new Trailblazer to get into mobile welding.  Start small with equipment you can afford now and work your way up from there.
Reply:Originally Posted by DesertRider33I started the mobile portion of my welding service with a used Generac 4000XL portable gas generator I bought for $250 in very nice condition, which I already owned cause I bought it originally for use with my camper for desert trips, and a barely used Millermatic 175 mig welder (220v), in excellent near new condition, that was about $500 with a bottle of gas and a cart.  I put some fluxcore wire in the mig and those and a tool box with hand tools and a couple milk crates with grinders, chop saw, sawzall,  drills, extension cords, etc.  It all fit in the back of my longbed mini truck.   I still have the generator and 175 mig and mini truck and had to put them back into service a few months ago when my welding truck was in the shop for 3 weeks.  You don't need alot of money or a new Trailblazer to get into mobile welding.  Start small with equipment you can afford now and work your way up from there.
Reply:Originally Posted by 99trxriderThanks for the input.  I dont plan on going big.  That will just lead to going broke.  But I dont want something now that way its paid for by the time I want to start a rig.  I dont have any payments now except for truck insurance and gas.  And if i had a welder I would always be home so i would just cancel my insurance and use that money for steel..haha..kidding..I dont want a grand new welder with the best equipment out there.I know you dont need the best equipment to do the best job.  Thats how my whole life has been.  Nothing I own is fancy.  I get buy with what I have.  I think when I get the money though im going to get a Lincoln Ranger, Dont know what model yet.  There doesnt seem to be much a difference to me other than the sheetmetal and controls.  I want to be able to stick and mig. TIG I could care less until I learn.  If i get an engine driven unit I prolly wouldnt get a feeder for awile.(now that I know what that is).  About the pipeliner, yeah I still dont plan on getting one.  I think they are very nice and I like to be a pipeliner but I also want a family and be able to have a good marriage someday.  Doesnt seem like it would be easy when your all over the country.
Reply:Originally Posted by 99trxriderWhat year is your 300 Tye?
Reply:You must have a really big truck there Tye to fit and hold up both of those machines.  My F350 is more than maxed out both in bed space and weight, carrying the utility body, Bobcat, compressor, XMT, Passport, Suitcase, lots of leads and ext cords, power tools and all the other stuff I need for mobile fabrication.  I couldn't imagine having to carry all that, plus another 2000 lbs for an SAE 300, unless I had an F450 or 550...MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op