6g in 60 days??

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sooo yea??http://www.100kwelder.com/
Reply:If nothing else, the author is a good marketer. I find links to his sight all over. And isn't that half of what he promises? The ability to market yourself? I've been temted to buy his book. Just haven't had the money.
Reply:I don't know...Who cares about the marketing.I think welding is based on your personal skill and natural ability. It could take somebody 2 years and another person 6 months to learn welding. It is just different natural abilities.
Reply:some one can learn to run beads.... maybe even pass a test... but not hang with journeyman weldersAir vantage 500 on the 08' KWharris torchesl25 pro suitcasecomletely restored 1969 SA200 redfaceon my 08' duramaxPIMPN AINT EASY
Reply:Marketing is what gets you the job. I've seen my share of big talkers and the like come through the shop I work at. Some brag themselves up, some are smooth talkers, some are just to friendly to turn down. Granted, none of them lasted, but it was their self promoting attitude, in various forms, that got them the job. Don't knock the ability to market, especially yourself.Granted, it's usually a good idea to be able to back up your claims about yourself with actual skills if you expect to keep the job.As for being able to do 6G in two months, I totally agree, it's a mater of personal skill and natural ability. His claim that you could learn 6G in that time just means that one person that used his technique was able to do it in that time. Was that person some kind of savant? Were others able to learn in that amount of time? Who knows? Any weldor will agree that you never stop learning how to weld. If you were to get the book and learn something new, even if you didn't learn it in 60 days, you still have learned something new. The question that wracks my brain is, is it something new, or is it something I already know?
Reply:Originally Posted by Grimm1Marketing is what gets you the job. I've seen my share of big talkers and the like come through the shop I work at. Some brag themselves up, some are smooth talkers, some are just to friendly to turn down. Granted, none of them lasted, but it was their self promoting attitude, in various forms, that got them the job. Don't knock the ability to market, especially yourself.Granted, it's usually a good idea to be able to back up your claims about yourself with actual skills if you expect to keep the job.As for being able to do 6G in two months, I totally agree, it's a mater of personal skill and natural ability. His claim that you could learn 6G in that time just means that one person that used his technique was able to do it in that time. Was that person some kind of savant? Were others able to learn in that amount of time? Who knows? Any weldor will agree that you never stop learning how to weld. If you were to get the book and learn something new, even if you didn't learn it in 60 days, you still have learned something new. The question that wracks my brain is, is it something new, or is it something I already know?
Reply:No way at all unless you are already experienced with stick otherwise its a load of bunk and he's nothing more than another hair in a can salesman.  There is a guy in my class who finished the hobart stick book in 5 weeks and has done the same with the mig book and he tried 6G and it looked like crap and failed on the bend test horribly.  I'll say that I would not trust anyone who bought this guys book to weld me up a chair, if it sounds to good to be true......
Reply:Originally Posted by Big65moparNo way at all unless you are already experienced with stick otherwise its a load of bunk and he's nothing more than another hair in a can salesman.  There is a guy in my class who finished the hobart stick book in 5 weeks and has done the same with the mig book and he tried 6G and it looked like crap and failed on the bend test horribly.  I'll say that I would not trust anyone who bought this guys book to weld me up a chair, if it sounds to good to be true......
Reply:As a manufacturing engineering student I can tell you a lot about how things should be constructed, welded, machined, bonded, lay ups and tooling since that's what we learned. Now it's entirely different if I need to actually set up the machinery and operate the lathes, welders, machine tools. Going through all the books and actually applying them are two completely different monsters.
Reply:Curriosity got me. I bought his book. I figured why not. He has a satisfaction guaranty. If it's nothing new I'll just get my money back. Give me a few days or so to read it over. I'm sure because of copy rights I wont be able to share "the secret," but I can at least tell you if it's a load of bunk, or actually usefull information.
Reply:I am sure anyone with rudimentary welding skills can do a 6G test in two months of practice.  60 X 8 = 480 hours of practice.  There are only a limited number of jobs where you weld up pipe joints all day.  Locally a lot of 6G requires a TIG root.  As soon as you add that to the mix it becomes doubtful that one could learn cellulose, low hydrogen and GTAW in under 500 hours starting out cold.   Most steady jobs require someone who can drive a forklift, load a truck properly. do rudimentary rigging,  read a variety of prints from mechanical to architectural, cut and fabricate.,,,, and also weld.  Once an awhile you hear about 100K a year people but they are rare.  They often pay a price in away from home.  Temptations of booze, drugs, and whatever that goes with big paychecks.  Many cannot handle that part.  Lastly, I have made over 70K a year in the early 1980's... but only for five to ten weeks of work.  Shut downs and short rush contracts pay the big bucks.  You feed at the overtime trough and then you are done.  Most of the 100 K guys don't have a good family life and miss out on Saturdays at hockey , soccer, softball /baseball with their kids.
Reply:100k happens quite a bit in the pipefitting industry. Guys with sense and that are stable can make this money and more if they play their cards right. I think anyone can get familiar with welding 6g in 6 weeks or whatever he is offering but that does not mean that person will be a good welder, or even an employable one. The easiest welding you will ever do will be in the booth. Get on the job and everything changes....upside down laying in a ditch under some big bore pipe comes to mind. Good luck with that purchase...or experiment.
Reply:I believe there are several members here that could top that salary-not by welding, but by writing a book and selling it over the internet
Reply:i seen the sales pitch on you tube and i grad last yr from ndscs welding program i thought i would be reletivly easy to find a welding job boy was i WRONG i was debating buying the book or attending the lincoln pipe welding school for 3 weeks i sent a pic of my v up and oh i need some more practice i was tempted 67.00 or 2,000.00 for the schoolmiller maxstar 150   hobart handler 210 w mig conversion hobart 250 arc force plasma cutter    boston ind cutting torch miller performance auto darkening helmet milwalkee 14in chop saw 10,000 watt generator huge drill press and industrial band saw
Reply:Never ever jump at something that seems to be the "Be all end all" answer when your desperate because that is when your ability to think rationally is at its lowest and thats what these snake oil salesmen bank on.If your in Minnesota then your in an area that it's going to be hard to find a welding job so I would look west towards the Dakota's where they are supposed to be drilling for gas and further west towards Wyoming to the oil fields there.  You can also look south and south east to the ship yards such as are here in Norfolk VA where there is always work.  Another place that is hiring is Norfolk Southern rail systems, they just hired a group of students from the night class, also look into Liebherr industries early next year because they have orders for 38 pieces of heavy mining equipment and will be hiring new staff.
Reply:Ok. So I just finished reading the book. How to tell you about it without infringing on any copy right laws. Hmmm. The question for this thread is can you learn 6G in 60 days? Yes..... IF you have the right circumstances and assets. BUT 6G is all you're learning. You'll be a one hit wonder. If you've never welded befor I would not recomend this book.First what I didn't like. The book was too short. The author could have spent more time expounding on some of the subjects. Just the book alone isn't really worth the price. Though I haven't made use of his personal counseling. If he's good for it that may justify his price. Now, after paying for his book he expects you to go out and buy another book and a video! Why not make it a set? As a professional welder I don't recomend just learning one skill and then rushing out to get a job. Like those people I mentioned earlier in this thread, you make get the job by showing off your one trick, but what about when they ask you to weld something else (like some sheet metal instead of heavy pipe)? You'll be standing there going "UH, I don't know how to do that." When you say you can weld, people assume you can weld a variety of things. If you already know how to stick weld, and have your own equipment, and you want to learn 6G, you probably don't need this book to learn how to do it.Things I did like. The course comes with the free counseling. Like I said though, I haven't given it a try yet. The author does give some good general advice. He also has some interesting job hunting techniques. He has several websites to help you listed in his book. One of them is his own for teaching you people skills so that you market yourself to potential employers better.His BIG SECRET to learning 6G fast? Well I obviously can't tell you without infringing on copyright laws. It's really kind of an "Oh duh. Why didn't anyone else think of that?" kind of thing. It is helpful, but it's not really anything earth shattering. Who I would recomend this book for. Not for some one whos NEVER welded, despite the authors claims. Probably not for experienced welders, unless you're looking to get into a different branch of welding. The brief section on resumes may be helpful. And in the section about different career options, there were a couple I found interesting.I might recomend this book for some one with some welding experience that wants to know about different options out there. Particularly some one who's very self motivated. If you're fresh outa highschool and enjoyed welding in shop, and you had the time and resources, then this guys program may be for you. IF you can do it, you could save money over going to a tech school or college. Theres plenty of self taught people on this site that prove that you can self teach yourself to weld.You want the best welding advice, and tips and secrets out there? Then just keep visiting this site. You'll get more info for free here than you can process!
Reply:6g is a position test which covers all positions supposedly. I can count on one hand how often I have seen a wont 6g weld in the field. Its a fairly rare occasion and if that is your 'one trick', then you wont be working long. A 5g video or book would better serve most pipe welders.