Where's the money?

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My question to everybody out there living and working in all the different industries is where's the money at? What sector makes or will make the most money in the years to come when the economy turns around? I'm an out of work auto painter currently being forced to detail cars all day at a used car dealership to stay in college and keep the bills paid. I'll be finished with all my business basics at the end of this year and will be enlisting in the military (shipping out to basic training at the beginning of 2011). For that is the only way I can see myself getting the Bachelor's Degree paid for, job training in a different field, saving large amounts of money, and seeing what the world has to offer, not to mention getting out of Dallas. I'm 25 and my job prospects are a joke, I've been in the auto body/ reconditioning business since I was 15. I have enough experience, and tools to come back to this as a backup plan, but its not going anywhere as of right now. I feel like I'm still young enough to try something different and would like to join the military, so I won't regret not doing it later in life, and so I can say I did my part in service to this country. I'm in good shape but I won't be able to do physical work forever, so my question is.....WHERE'S THE MONEY!?!?
Reply:ask obmama he will take it from othersthat have made it and give it to othersuntill the others make it then take it from them
Reply:Right now there's loads of money overseas.  I do not think I will ever work in the USA again by choice.  Once you get into the Expat world, it's hard to go back to anything else.6 Miller Big Blue 600 Air Paks2 Miller 400D6 Lincoln LN-25's4 Miller Xtreme 12VS2 Miller Dimension 812 4 Climax BW-3000Z bore welders Hypertherm 65 and 85Bug-O Track BugPair of Welpers
Reply:And what is it that you do overseas that has you not wanting to come back?
Reply:You should check and see if you can learn to weld when you enter the service.  The most money is usually in pipe welding .  Since you live in TX they have the oil industry there but you didn't state what welding skills you have.  If its something you want to get into your not going to have enough time to get into it before you go into basic.
Reply:Originally Posted by theoriginatorAnd what is it that you do overseas that has you not wanting to come back?
Reply:Originally Posted by ExpatWelderHeavy equipment welding/Fabrication, Line Boring, Non Destructive Testing, and Failure analysisSame thing as in the US, just a heap more money and lots of travel
Reply:"Specific mfg, contractor, local or just "wildcat"?I can't really say for security reasons, but i have been with the same company for 21 years and have had many opportunities to go overseas.  I finally took the plunge about a year ago and wish i had done it YEARS ago, as I would be retired by now.  Being away from my wife and kids for long stretches is really hard, but we are doing it for all the right reasons and can really see the light at the end of the tunnel now.6 Miller Big Blue 600 Air Paks2 Miller 400D6 Lincoln LN-25's4 Miller Xtreme 12VS2 Miller Dimension 812 4 Climax BW-3000Z bore welders Hypertherm 65 and 85Bug-O Track BugPair of Welpers
Reply:"I've got the stuff for in place weld and line bore and have tried several times to get the real welding shop next door to consider expanding (something always gets in the way)."What brand of line boring gear do you have?  I am kinda partial to Climax gear, but have used pretty much everything out there.  Seeing how things are over here, a guy could pretty much write his own paycheck with a good line-boring setup.  Over here a line borer is just that, that is ALL he does and there are VERY few quality techs around.  Where I come from, if you're a welder, you had BETTER be able to run a boring bar as well or you are not going to get work, that's just part of building buckets and maintaining heavy equipment.6 Miller Big Blue 600 Air Paks2 Miller 400D6 Lincoln LN-25's4 Miller Xtreme 12VS2 Miller Dimension 812 4 Climax BW-3000Z bore welders Hypertherm 65 and 85Bug-O Track BugPair of Welpers
Reply:I was looking into the Air Force or the Army, because I have enough college credits (87) and an AAS in Auto Body Tech I can come in as an E-3 rather than an E-1. The Air Force and the Navy have the best schools/ training as far as I can see, but I'm not into being a Sailor, I'd rather be an Airman or a Soldier. Biomedical Equipment Technician (Air Force and Army have this occupation) or Contracting/ Operations Management (Air Force only) or Financial Technician (Air Force and Army) or Construction Equipment Repairer/ Operator, Machinist, or Metal Worker (Army). I want to get a job in the military that I can use in the civilian world. I also plan on getting a Business Management BS while in service, my goal is to be self employed and completely independent by the time I'm 35 (10 years should be enough time to learn a new trade/ skill and make it happen). I'm single with no kids so I would love to travel as I have no baggage. The auto business is my backup plan.
Reply:Best of luck to you, I think the military is a GREAT place to be.  When I was 20 I enlisted in the USMC for ten years active duty and planned to do that and then re enlist for another 10 and retire.  Long story short, they found a cataract in my left eye and gave me the boot just 30 days into recruit training. The Marine Corps has some really good schools as well.  The money is not bad in the military these days either depending on where your stationed with housing allowances and such.6 Miller Big Blue 600 Air Paks2 Miller 400D6 Lincoln LN-25's4 Miller Xtreme 12VS2 Miller Dimension 812 4 Climax BW-3000Z bore welders Hypertherm 65 and 85Bug-O Track BugPair of Welpers
Reply:Hey Matt Maguire ,I'm also a welder and a pclinuxos user. Windows sucks!
Reply:Originally Posted by ExpatWelder"Specific mfg, contractor, local or just "wildcat"?I can't really say for security reasons, but i have been with the same company for 21 years and have had many opportunities to go overseas.  I finally took the plunge about a year ago and wish i had done it YEARS ago, as I would be retired by now.  Being away from my wife and kids for long stretches is really hard, but we are doing it for all the right reasons and can really see the light at the end of the tunnel now.
Reply:""My question to everybody out there living and working in all the different industries is where's the money at?""Tim Horton's!!!!! You ever not lined up when going there??!!?? That's where the real buck's are! Guess the 'nuck's here will get that oneLiquor and porn. Good in all financial climates. 200amp Air Liquide MIG, Hypertherm Plasma, Harris torches, Optrel helmet, Makita angle grinders, Pre-China Delta chop saw and belt sander, Miller leathers, shop made jigs etc, North- welders backpack.
Reply:I know a couple of guys who own body shops.  They do very well on collision work.
Reply:The power industry is going to be big.  Retrofits, new nukes, renewables, etc.Though from the looks of it, social work might not be bad either since the welfare handouts will be booming!
Reply:Well it wont be offshore drilling as I had hoped thanks to BP cutting corners.  Defense contracting is one area where the money is at, heavy equipment manufacturing is picking up again, rail is another that is starting to pick up.  You could look at the Kia motors plant in Waynesboro GA and get on in their welding department or get in with Westinghouse on their nuclear pipe welding program.
Reply:I'll be finished with all my business basics at the end of this year and will be enlisting in the military (shipping out to basic training at the beginning of 2011).
Reply:Advice would be nice, as I would greatly appreciate it.  I don't want to be stuck indoors all day long but would not want something too over my head ( I tend to understand mechanical things much more than my manual dexterity allows me to do at times ).  I'm very articulate and meticulous also.  I haven't really considered going career military but maybe I'll like it, who knows....Another reason I won't be leaving until 2011 is because of a military backlog, as well as a Class A Misdemeanor that is still haunting me from when i was 18 (over 6 years ago).  I have to wait until the beginning of the fiscal year (October) to get a criminal history waiver even though I wasn't convicted they say that serving probation is basically an admission of guilt.  With that said...I'll probably be looking at something more blue collar than white collar for the fact that a lot of companies might not hire me after a background check even though I petitioned for a non disclosure 2 years ago certain companies and agencies can find it.
Reply:Come down here, guys. We dodged that recession you lot kicked off and there is loads of high paying skilled work for mining/gas companies. We've got a massive skill shortage that is only going to get worse. There was an article in the paper today that the schools that teach trades now have a problem getting teachers because they can earn far more money elsewhere. Of course mines aren't always located in great places, but a couple years earning up to $130-150K would be good for a young bloke.Yeah, I carry.House keys, wallet, some change, usually a newspaper, maybe a pen.
Reply:Go to UA.org and look into the pipe trades. Click on veterans. If you are a vet or plan on being one, you can get direct entry into an apprentice program. A UA welder can make from 75 to 300 thousand a year. I would count on around 80-100 though.UA Local 598
Reply:I have narrowed down my career change ideas to the following: CPABiomedical Equipment EngineeringWeldingReal Estate What are yall's opinions on my options?  I want to be in really good career shape in another 5-10 years.  I'm 25 now and want to live comfortably with self employment an eventuall reality after 35.
Reply:it's not what you earn... it's what you keepsmart folks take earnings and plow it back into real property. definition of real property is something that has a high probability of keeping it's real value as pegged in term of buying power. example: say in 1903 a rifle costs 1 weeks wages or $25... fast forward to today, that same rifle is now worth $800 or the same one weeks wages in terms of buying power. so firearms traditionally hold their real value in terms of buying power. obviously the most common real property is real estate... precious metals like gold and silver are other common choices. $25 worth of Gold purchased in 1903 would be worth well over one week's wages. an entertaining way to learn parity of currencies is the Big Mac index. a basket of goods is selected... in this case is a Big Mac... which takes about the same ingredients and labor to produce anywhere in the world. naturally there are not many places that doesn't have McDonald restaurants.  using a city in USA ... price of a Big Mac is established as a base line. then prices of big mac are listed all over the world...  a similar basket of goods provides local prices, then compared to current exchange ratio to dollar. thereby providing a light hearted way to tell if a currency is undervalued or overvalued as compared to the dollar. http://www.economist.com/markets/big...TOKEN=15980901The Economist's Big Mac index seeks to make exchange-rate theory more digestible. It is arguably the world's most accurate financial indicator to be based on a fast-food item. Originally Posted by theoriginatorI have narrowed down my career change ideas to the following: CPABiomedical Equipment EngineeringWeldingReal Estate What are yall's opinions on my options?  I want to be in really good career shape in another 5-10 years.  I'm 25 now and want to live comfortably with self employment an eventuall reality after 35.
Reply:Wow, that's a diverse list:CPABiomedical Equipment EngineeringWeldingReal Estate
Reply:I got a degree in welding engineering,  started with my A.A in welding and fabrication then moved over and got my B.A in welding engineering.engineering isn't for everyone, but as a backup i can work as an NDT guy or a welder as I'm qualified to do both. Money is hard to say as it varies from company to company and location.  I work in the Aerospace and Nuclear reactor world and I'm doing very good for myself, plus it's very stable.  There's a huge demand for skilled trade engineers (welding, manufacturing, plastics, nano material manufacturing, etc engineers). We're the guys who are expected to know how to run the machines and work on the floor AND do the engineering leg work.I love it and I get the security of a salaried job.Welding EngineerCertified Scrap Producerit's the norm to not think about money $$$ management.... with focus only on earning $$$... to drive home the point... think about how much $$$ that's passed through your hands for ... say the last 5-10 years... now ask yourself how much of those $$$ do you still have? again... it's not what you earn... it's what you keep52, 59 & 66 Lincoln SA200, Tombstone Idealarc 250, Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 50, Marquette 250 amp mig, Miller 330 A/BP
Reply:The money is in Hard Work
Reply:I agree with Metarinka said:  Nondestructive testing in aviation and/or nuclear power.The thing about NDT is that you can enter the profession without an educational requirement.  The Standards that govern certification of NDT inspectors, be they International (ISO 9712), European (EN 473), or American (ANSI CP-189, ASNT ACCP, API, etc.) all require much the same training hours and experience.  It`s a long term carreer that pays more, the more and higher level of certifications you acquire.I can only speak for the situation is Canada.I've hired mostly ex-forces personnel and my experience with them has been good.  Most these folks come from the air force where they were superbly trained in NDT and where they gained their initial experience.  NDT inspectors move around a lot in their early carreers - many an isolated construction project.  Two years ago, industry was crying for inspectors = extreme shortage... trying to bring in inspectors from the UK, the Philipines, etc.  The recession has toned that down a mite. Half the 4500 certified NDT inspectors in Canada belong to 1 union (Quality Control Council of Canada) and receive pay according to union scales depending upon the province (state) in which you work and how many certifications and levels you hold.  Pay is good.Ultimately, you may find a job with a major electrical utility in the power industry, then you have a pensionable job, in an urban region, with great benefits and security but still have the opportunity to work as much overtime as you wish to - or don`t wish to.  I don't know of a single person who got into the NDT profession/trade who left it willingly.  We've all been around a long time - and that's where the problem/opportunity is; we are retiring and many vacancies are opening up for folks like yourself.  Think NDT.Rick V.
Reply:Originally Posted by Fat BastardThe money is in Hard Work
Reply:The money is in smart work. I don't work hard, but I make good money.Yeah, I carry.House keys, wallet, some change, usually a newspaper, maybe a pen.