help buying tig welder

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what do you guys think about this tig welder. im not going to be doing anything really thick. or alot of it. mainly for a project. he wants 450.00 for it.i said 300.00 right now lol Attached ImagesFSAE CAR 1000cc Engine )))lincoln 125+argon conversion kit40cf acly 80 oxy= 97 jeep wrangler lifted 33" tires88 dodge dakota project truck
Reply:Have you tried it to see that it indeed works?? If so, for 300-450 it's a good deal.And then, after so much work...... you have it in your hand, and you look over to your side...... and the runner has run off. Leaving you holding the prize, wondering when the runner will return.
Reply:I don't recognise it from those picts so I can't tell you much about it's capabilities. I'd have to agree that if it works $300-450 would seem to be a decent deal. The only question I have is if it will do what you want. If it's a DC only machine and you want to learn to tig alum, then it may not be the deal you are looking for. To answer that, we'd need more info on the make and model of the machine as well as just what you are looking to eventually do.Oh, also remember you will need a cylinder of 100% argon to tig. I don't see one in the picts, so figure almost another $200 or so to get a meduim sized cyl if ones not included..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:ok ill find out details and let you know!!!!!FSAE CAR 1000cc Engine )))lincoln 125+argon conversion kit40cf acly 80 oxy= 97 jeep wrangler lifted 33" tires88 dodge dakota project truck
Reply:Originally Posted by moneymaker17ok ill find out details and let you know!!!!!
Reply:I have no experience with chicago electric. I can see what looks to be the ac/dc lever on the left side of the first pic.That also looks very small next to that tire so if it is a transformer based machine it may be a very low output. Did the seller post a picture of the NEMA rating tag on the back of the machine? If not, you need to know the rated output and duty cycle. It may not be such a good deal if it's 120amps at 10% duty or something like that.Matt
Reply:can you take it for a test drive, if it works sounds like a fair deal.go look and have cash in hand ,truck, and go for itidealarc 250/250 ac-dc tigidealarc 250/250 ac-dc tig #2 used for sticklincoln sp100hh125dual arbor grinder polisher30 yrs of hand tools52 pitch blocks 6p-26prake gauge -pitch gaugeG&D prop repair 918-207-6938Hulbert,okla 74441
Reply:Originally Posted by prop-doctorcan you take it for a test drive, if it works sounds like a fair deal.go look and have cash in hand ,truck, and go for it
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Reply:Dont go down that path........no way was it 1200 new....and I think the money would be better spent on other things as it wont give you any more capability than your torch.
Reply:so bacially what your saying is, its a worthless peice of junk and not to buy it?FSAE CAR 1000cc Engine )))lincoln 125+argon conversion kit40cf acly 80 oxy= 97 jeep wrangler lifted 33" tires88 dodge dakota project truck
Reply:Duty Cycles.    70% @200 AMPS AC. 60% @165 AMPS AC100% @130 AMPS AC  40% @ 170 AMPS DC100% @ 110 AMPS DCthose are the duty cycles...FSAE CAR 1000cc Engine )))lincoln 125+argon conversion kit40cf acly 80 oxy= 97 jeep wrangler lifted 33" tires88 dodge dakota project truck
Reply:I'd pass. I thought it might be an old Airco that was a rebadged Miller. Something sounds fishy to me if thats honestly what he paid originally. There may be some issue he's aware of that he's not disclosing. If there's a problem, the chances of getting it fixed are slim at best.If you hunt around you can probably find a nice older industrial AC/DC tig for $500 and up. I've seen Miller 330A/BP's in that range. Big heavy machines that require a lot of power but weld really nice. Also for just over $1K I've seen some sweet "newer" used Syncrowave 180's/ 200's in good shape.Save your cash and keep looking. PM sent.Last edited by DSW; 07-07-2010 at 03:30 PM..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:Originally Posted by moneymaker17Duty Cycles.    70% @200 AMPS AC. 60% @165 AMPS AC100% @130 AMPS AC  40% @ 170 AMPS DC100% @ 110 AMPS DCthose are the duty cycles...
Reply:Originally Posted by moneymaker17so bacially what your saying is, its a worthless peice of junk and not to buy it?
Reply:If you are willing to do a road trip, this looks like it might be what you are looking for.http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=41565Thats a LOT more machine, comes with the reg and cylinder, looks like its got the cooler as well for a bit less than 2x what the other guy was asking..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:Originally Posted by moneymaker17Duty Cycles.    70% @200 AMPS AC. 60% @165 AMPS AC100% @130 AMPS AC  40% @ 170 AMPS DC100% @ 110 AMPS DCthose are the duty cycles...
Reply:If its an older HF, its likely to be an italian made welder, either telwyn or cebora type machine, and it will be quality.Esab Migmaster 250Lincoln SA 200Lincoln Ranger 8Smith Oxy Fuel setupEverlast PowerPlasma 80Everlast Power iMIG 160Everlast Power iMIG 205 Everlast Power iMIG 140EEverlast PowerARC 300Everlast PowerARC 140STEverlast PowerTIG 255EXT
Reply:The AC makes it interesting.  And it has a heck of a lot more power and duty cycle than say, a Miller Econotig.I would check that it has a high frequency arc stabilizer built in before buying though.  I hear that is a necessary feature of a transformer TIG welder to maintain the AC arc (especially with low welding current).