Would you trust your own welds for this?

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Thread title says it all, would you trust your welds to hold this in the air and flip it over?  Takes nerves of steel (no pun) to watch a piece being lifted this big when you welded the pad-eyes on for the cranes to hook to.(Piece is bigger than it appears)
Reply:I'd get it done and kiss it bye bye!. I'd have no problems.....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:"Would you trust your own welds for this?"Sure would !!Anything worth doing is worth doing RIGHT
Reply:Nice pics.  I didn't realize how big it was till I saw the last pic.  yeah, I'd trust my welds.....  Follow their procedure......DavidReal world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:Nope.  But I'd love to watch it go on.Hobart 140 Handler w/ gasHyperTherm Powermax 380 Plasmaoxy/acetylene
Reply:I get around some heavy lifted items although nothing that size and I always wonder about the cables, slings ,hooks and various pins and chains.Not to mention hydraulic hose failures on certain things. I guess I have never worried about the welding on our end of it.Seems like they haven't failed like the other things.Also very nice pictures,thanks for sharing them.
Reply:The hydraulic hose on the yellow crane blew during that lift.  YIKES
Reply:No way,  some day though.
Reply:All day long. If I couldn't trust them for that, I sure as hell couldn't trust them on trailers, or anything else that might take a real beating.Miller EconotigCutmaster 38Yes ma'am, that IS a screwdriver in my pocket!
Reply:Yup.  I think the largest load a single lift lug I welded has seen is roughly 5,000lbs.
Reply:Worry about my welds, no way. I would worry more about the rigging and crane operaters.Clarke 130EN C25Lincoln 225 AC Stick(1968)Smith O/A RigHF 4X6 Red BandsawBlack & Decker Pro Chopsaw16 Speed Drill PressSpeedglas XL HelmetHarbor Freight Stuff
Reply:man thats cool, yeah they would hold up that ship. id love to get into a job like that.Nothing Ever Got Done By Quitting, Never Give Up.
Reply:I did it earlier this year with the exoskeleton/mold for the raceboat. Over $1.3 million invested in the mold, I watched it flip. I wasn't worried about my welds, more about the cable, the guys under it, and I wondered if my caster wheels were going to work out. But the welds??/ They were good to go.And then, after so much work...... you have it in your hand, and you look over to your side...... and the runner has run off. Leaving you holding the prize, wondering when the runner will return.
Reply:At this time no, but I sure would love to have the ability in the future
Reply:Typically 70,000 psi...why not! City of L.A. Structural; Manual & Semi-Automatic;"Surely there is a mine for silver, and a place where gold is refined. Iron is taken from the earth, and copper is smelted from ore."Job 28:1,2Lincoln, Miller, Victor & ISV BibleDanny
Reply:Without a dime how do we know it's not part of a 1/18th scale model?But, yea, I'd probably trust my welds to do that suposing the brackets had enough contact area so that I could get plenty of bead on there and I could weld in a good position, ie not upside-down hanging by my ankles using a mirror. Half my parent's house is held up by my beads, and I'd much rather be responsible for wrecking the nose of a Navy boat than their dining-room. Good work
Reply:Originally Posted by tanglediverTypically 70,000 psi...why not!
Reply:yes i would trust my welding on some thing like that if a welder can't trust his welds there's no hope for anyone as some have said I would be worried more about the lifting gear
Reply:thats neet and weld it paint it ship it lol lol lol ship it get itChuckASME Pressure Vessel welder
Reply:Those are cool pics...what ship yard is that?  I used to work shipyards...Communications stuff, not welding.  Our company had three shipbuilding contracts and only one of the ships was steel.  One was fiberglass and one was wooden.  Minesweepers...steel not good.  lolReally cool pics though...and awesome welding.  It's amazing what can be done melting metal together.  MM175 MIGCutmaster 38 PlasmaCraftsman 30gal compressor4x6 HF bandsaw1hp HF floor drill pressRyobi Cutoff SawAssorted grindersNot enough time
Reply:Damn, right I trust my welds. If you weld for a living and don't trust your own work, down the road you should go period.Disclaimer; "I am just an a$$hole welder, don't take it personally ."
Reply:Used to do 5 inch cast steel C hooks on a 21 ton lift arm. 2 pass weld, about 8 inches total weld area on each eye. 2 eyes per lift arm, these held the whole thing while I worked on the assembly. Never had any problems and never gave them a second thought. Did several of these a week. Anything worth doing is worth doing RIGHT !!Nice pics Welderboy, it amazes me how some of the awkward stuff is handled !!Anything worth doing is worth doing RIGHT
Reply:Been there, done that. 100000lb locomotive bodies, among other things.
Reply:I might...but I sure wouldn't stand under it to find out
Reply:No big deal . .. .... send it right over and I'll put our best guy on it.He's almost done with the landing gear for the space shuttle.WashmanOriginally Posted by Static-XJYup.  I think the largest load a single lift lug I welded has seen is roughly 5,000lbs.
Reply:Originally Posted by MUDBUGThose are cool pics...what ship yard is that?
Reply:only if it brakes
Reply:Originally Posted by WashmanNo big deal . .. .... send it right over and I'll put our best guy on it.He's almost done with the landing gear for the space shuttle.Washman
Reply:Yeah. I would trust my own welds for that.I trust my welds. It's other people I don't trust. When I was taking my advanced classes in college we had a guy come in and show the roll cages he had built and the videos of the guys who crashed in those cages. His stuff was good for sure but it got me thinking. When you build roll cages your welds will be involved in a worst case scenario. Maybe some guy doing 200+MPH and hitting the wall. Even though I trust my skills, I don't want to be involved in worst case scenarios EVERY time. Because sooner or later conditions will be JUST right and something is going to give and it's human life at stake. So I don't build roll cages for people. For myself, sure. A lifting eye where nobody is under it, sure. Now, I admit my own thoughts are conflicting and I have not reconciled my refusal to build roll cages along with my desire to do structural steel on skyscrapers. Holy cow, lot's of lives at stake in a skyscraper!Lincoln Power Mig 210MP MIGLincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-PullLincoln TIG 300-300Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v  Thanks JLAMESCK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cupThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101My brain
Reply:No Way!But I am the perfect example of a novice.Don't talk about it, Just do it!
Reply:THe first pic makes that thing look like a spacecraft off Star Wars.
Reply:(Piece is bigger than it appears)Actually it appears pretty f#@%ing BIG.And yes I would trust my welds on it. You sure do nice work though KennyLast edited by airsickness; 10-17-2007 at 09:42 PM.
Reply:Those big holes on the bottom are for "bow thruster's" right?
Reply:Originally Posted by airsicknessYou sure do nice work though
Reply:I'd like to see that done in real time...Facinating indeed.. ...zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:btw, those big holes in the bow of that ship are big enough that you can stand in them and not touch the top with your head.  They will be where the bow thrusters go.  They are giant turbines that turn the ship.  When in rough water the captain will be able to push a button and have the ship use GPS and sit where it's at without anchor.  Amazing stuff in this thing.btw, this boat will be going out to the gulf of mexico to the oil drillings platforms and bringing men and supplies to and from them.
Reply:Originally Posted by WelderBoybtw, those big holes in the bow of that ship are big enough that you can stand in them and not touch the top with your head.  They will be where the bow thrusters go.  They are giant turbines that turn the ship.  When in rough water the captain will be able to push a button and have the ship use GPS and sit where it's at without anchor.  Amazing stuff in this thing.
Reply:Originally Posted by EngloidThey put the same type of setup in boats much smaller than that.  Some are under $100k.  I was surprised when I found that out.
Reply:Bow thrusters are great if you can add rear thrusters too then you can eliminate the tugboat almost entirely (although I'm not sure some boats could do forwards or backs that precise.
Reply:Originally Posted by 65535Bow thrusters are great if you can add rear thrusters too then you can eliminate the tugboat almost entirely (although I'm not sure some boats could do forwards or backs that precise.
Reply:I must say thoughs are some real cool pic's welderboy.Yes I would trust my welds as well. I am not a certified welder but have done jobs were my welds have been subjected to large amounts a force. I may not be a pro welder which may cause me to over design and weld a little but I do sleep good at night.Thanks for sharingMiller DVI2Lincoln Precision Tig 225Thermodynamics Cutmaster 38Everything else needed.