Clevis Ends..

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Welded up some Clevis ends that will be used with hydraulic cylinders..Much easier than milling the middles out of solid stock..First step is to clamp a piece of angle to the table for clamping purposes..Clamp the middle piece..Clamp all the pieces..Tack just the corners..Flip and repeat tacking procedure..Next.....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Here it is all tacked and ready to go..Notice the nice beveled edges to weld in..All done..Inside weld..The only way to get the torch inside the pieces and get a weld in the corners..The old bend the tungestion trick..Bend..Aim where you want the flame and weld..Now repeat X10..I get all the fun jobs.....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:How do you get the tung. to bend, Mr. Zap? (Heat and pressure?) I really like that trick!!!!! Let me know and I'll start a-doin' it!Thanks in advance.gnm109er    Miller Millermatic 252Miller Syncrowave 200Liincoln AC-DC 225Victor O-A Set
Reply:Originally Posted by gnm109How do you get the tung. to bend, Mr. Zap? (Heat and pressure?) I really like that trick!!!!! Let me know and I'll start a-doin' it!Thanks in advance.gnm109er
Reply:what kind of amperage did you run on that zap? I get confused on solid plate  over 1/2 inch because I don't tig a lot of it - but could you even get a pool started with a 185 amp tig welder on something that thick? - or only if the edges are beveled? I know you would not get full penetration obviously on something thick without the juice, but can you even get the pool started on something that thick? Sorry for the ignorance, I just thought if you had say a 250 amp tig machine, that it is hard to get a pool going on anything say 1/2 inch or larger. Where am I missing the boat? lol
Reply:I'm not sure what you're doing incorrect..I can get a puddle started on 1" material @ 80 amps..Won't be "big" or "deep" but it will be there anyway..I'm not sure whats going on at your end.. ...zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:ha. That is why I said excuse my ignorance. I have never really messed with thick solid plate, and have to this point only really tigged tube. I was always under the impression that getting the material warm enough on something with so much mass required a lot of amps and heat, and thus, getting a pool to form would be difficult because of the heat dissipating over the thickness of the metal. Nice to know the puddle will form. I swear I read somewhere that getting the puddle to form on thick materials required a lot of amps. Say for instance, you are welding 1/2 inch plate to 1/8 inch plate. Could you mate both pieces with 80 amps - don't care about penetration, just wondering if the puddle would form to burn them - again - this might be a stupid question, but one that I am not scared to ask! - I have gotten pretty decent at tig welding tube, but just don't want to be completely lost if welding something larger. Thanks.Last edited by kshellrazor; 01-11-2008 at 04:24 PM.
Reply:To answer your AMP question..It was around 160-180..I just leave my machine on "kill" (250 max)..Turn down the weld current knob to around 7 out of 10..And use the pedal..Very rarely do I set the machine on "soft" because on kill it will go from 40 to 250 on that one setting.....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Here's some pics of the finished product..Drilled and tapped..Hardend bushings installed..Wog820 did the machining..He gets all the fun jobs.. ...zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Interesting approach.But you do realize that with just those partial penetration welds holding it all together, that the strength of the weldment is about 1/4 (estimated) of what a 'billet' clevis or full-penetration weldment would be?
Reply:I just do what I'm told..Or asked..Me not worried in the least.. One must have confidence in what one is doing..No failures yet.. ...zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:I think they look awesome.David Real world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:Originally Posted by kshellrazorwhat kind of amperage did you run on that zap? I get confused on solid plate  over 1/2 inch because I don't tig a lot of it - but could you even get a pool started with a 185 amp tig welder on something that thick? - or only if the edges are beveled? I know you would not get full penetration obviously on something thick without the juice, but can you even get the pool started on something that thick? Sorry for the ignorance, I just thought if you had say a 250 amp tig machine, that it is hard to get a pool going on anything say 1/2 inch or larger. Where am I missing the boat? lol
Reply:Zap those clevises look great.. YOU DO get all the fun jobs....
Reply:Originally Posted by MoonRiseInteresting approach.But you do realize that with just those partial penetration welds holding it all together, that the strength of the weldment is about 1/4 (estimated) of what a 'billet' clevis or full-penetration weldment would be?
Reply:Originally Posted by TEKAnd, not dissing the purty welds and all, but 1/8 7018 would of done it in about a 1/4 of the time.
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Reply:Do you get deeper penetration with stick instead of tig at the same amerage?
Reply:I vote Tig..You can get some real penetration happening before you add the filler..With a stick it's instantanious.....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Zap, again, another great thread. Excellent job. Now if I could only retain some of what I am picking up from your threads. Curious, how did you come up with the idea of bending your tungsten?
Reply:Originally Posted by zapsterJust leave it on D.C.Crank it up..Grind to a fine point..Using a copper block heat the tungestion untill RED RED hot..Let off pedal..Push down and away as you drive the tungestion into the copper with moderate pressure..May take a few times when starting out but yeah it works great in small places.....zap!
Reply:Originally Posted by jjellingsonZap, again, another great thread. Excellent job. Now if I could only retain some of what I am picking up from your threads. Curious, how did you come up with the idea of bending your tungsten?
Reply:Originally Posted by TEKAnd, not dissing the purty welds and all, but 1/8 7018 would of done it in about a 1/4 of the time.
Reply:Bent tungsten....ofcourse   the things one can learn from this place    Zap that one I have to try soon.Good post weld it like you own it