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Hows it work? Or do you have to purchase them and then pay to fill them? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Reply:It depends on where you live but most people rent.  There are big chains like Airgas and then little mom and pops.  I would look in your local yellow pages under welding supplies and make some phone calls.These guys http://www.gaspony.com/ will sell you tanks as will http://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.co...let/StoreFrontCheck with your local outfit that you want to refill at BEFORE you buy a tank because they may not fill someone else's.Good Luck
Reply:There are three ways most LWS's operate.  Sell, Rent or lease and there is no law to tell the which to do,  It is an individual thing.   JohnSMAW,GMAW,FCAW,GTAW,SAW,PAC/PAW/OFCand Shielding Gases.  There all here. :
Reply:I purchased 80cf tanks and refill them about 10 min away from the shop.  I would love to have larger tanks that I refill less but I don't want to lease them at $90 year each.  The reason I have 80cf tanks is this is the largest size that I can have filled.  The supplier will not service anything larger unless they own it.  So check before you buy to make sure they will fill it!Me!
Reply:our local national welders will only go up to 80 cf
Reply:At the LWS I work at we will rent cylinders to customers that have charge accounts, the rental is .22-.27 per day, or about $6.00-$8.00 per month. We also sell cylinders on a 15 year program, issue titles for them and offer a 15 year money back guarantee, at the end of the 15 years we send the customer a letter asking him if he wants to keep the buyback in effect, he doesn't owe any more money, all the letter states is if he wants to renew the agreement, then sign it and mail it back. If we don't hear from him, he still owns the cylinder, we just don't guarantee the buyback. We also take care of any retests that come up, or any valve repairs, and if he comes to exchange it we just swap him for a different cylinder. I don't get these LWS's that won't swap different cylinders, to us a cylinder is a cylinder. If a customer brings us a cylinder that does not have our name on it, we will swap it as long as he says he owns it, and if it happens to be out of test date, we still swap it, but will charge him for a retest.
Reply:buy the cylinder, the cost of rental will cover the purchase price in 2 years. the larger cylinders are cheaper to refill per cft."Retreat hell, were just fighting in the other direction"Miller Trailblazer 302, Extreme 12 VS, Dimension 400, Spectrum 375, HF 251D-1, Milermatic 251 w/ spoolgun  Hypertherm 1000Lincoln sp 1702000 F-450 to haul it
Reply:Originally Posted by backuprollerbuy the cylinder, the cost of rental will cover the purchase price in 2 years. the larger cylinders are cheaper to refill per cft.
Reply:I buy the cylinders and have them filled, or exchange them for cylinders the shop has already filled, depending on what they have on-hand at the time.   I pay no rental fee and only pay for fills as needed.   Using the gas and exchanging for another filled cylinder ensures that they dont go out of date.   Re-filling the same cylinder, eventually it will go out of date and need a re-test.   Re-test doesn't cost much though.  Airgas will exchange out any cylinder as long as the customer owns it and it's not out of date and in otherwise usable condition.   They don't exchange cylinders that say 'property of ...' on them because that means it's a leased/rented cylinder from another shop and doesn't belong to the person asking for the exchange.   I imagine they would probly re-fill it, though I've never had that situation come up to find out, since I own all mine.  At work, we lease or rent the tanks, not sure which they call it.  We use alot of gas.  A 300 cu ft argon cylinder lasts us less than a day.  A 230 liter liquid argon tank lasts about 3 weeks.  When we have a few empty tanks, we call the welding supply and they come the next day with full tanks and take away the empties.  It costs the company less to do it that way than owning them, I guess.   Management has the costs all figured out, I just do the work .  It would not be cost effective for me to rent/lease personally, cause I don't go through nearly that much volume of gas at home or on the truck.MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:I bought a 175 cf tank at home depot, filled and everything. I asked them how much to exchange when empty and they told me $25. The tank filled with C25 cost me $225. This is the first tank I have ever bought. For the hobby welding I do in my garage it should last me a long time.
Reply:Good deal.  wish my Home Depot did that... Me!
Reply:Airgas in Sacramento sells 160cf tanks for argon and will refill and exchange them. They are marked as customer owned. I will have to find another outlet, however, since they are charging me $75 to refill and exchange one. That's double what some others pay in different cities.Miller Millermatic 252Miller Syncrowave 200Liincoln AC-DC 225Victor O-A Set
Reply:Just renewed my lease for the year today. $43.00/year for a 336 cu.ft. bottle of Argon and swapped the empty one for a full one for another $52.00. Also picked up 5 # of 70s-6 for $15.- I use Betterway gas in Hudson, NH
Reply:When you buy welding tanks you are sort of leasing them.The reason is, ALL tanks are controlled and inspected and overseen by the DOT (Department of transportation). They make sure tanks are hydrotested by the businesses that fill them and sell them and rent them.But the way to save money for INDIVIDUALS is to buy them.But if you own a business it could be a better deal to lease or rent them from the gas supplier.
Reply:Originally Posted by Me!Good deal.  wish my Home Depot did that...
Reply:Originally Posted by Donald BranscomForget HOME DEPOT!!! They are a middle man.Just go to a welding gas supplier.