Inverter vs Transformer TIG Machines

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I did a search and did not find what I was looking for.  Mainly, for gerneral knowledge, wanted to see why the inverter machines seem to be highly thought of, but don't have the same amperage output as the transformer type machines.  Thought this might help others who are new to the technology, as I am. I found this article from 2003 and wanted to post it to see if this is pretty much tells the story, or if some newer advancements have more meaning to the comparison story.http://www.thefabricator.com/Aluminu...cle.cfm?ID=686----------------------------------------------------------The  author:Frank Armao is group leader, nonferrous applications, at The Lincoln Electric Co. He is a member of the AWS D1 Committee, chairman of the AWS D1 Aluminum Subcommittee, and vice chairman of the AWS D8G Automotive Aluminum Arc Welding Committee.------------------------------------------------------------Inverter versus transformer power supplies for aluminum GTAWBy Frank Armao, Contributing WriterAugust 28, 2003I’m looking for a new GTAW power supply for AC aluminum welding. I had intended to buy a conventional transformer unit, but several people have told me to buy an inverter-based power supply. Which one is better for my application?Inverter-based power supplies do have some advantages over conventional transformer-based power supplies. However, some of these advantages have been overstated and others are not significant to all users. So let’s examine the differences between inverters and conventional transformers in detail.Before beginning, I want to make it clear that most inverter GTAW power supplies produce only DC current. Few produce the AC normally used for GTAW of aluminum alloys. These tend to be more complex and more expensive than DC-only inverters.• Size and weight. Inverter power supplies are smaller and lighter in weight than transformer power supplies. The typical 300-amp transformer supply weighs 200 to 400 lbs., while a 300-amp inverter supply usually weighs 30 to 50 pounds. The inverter also has a smaller footprint, so in general, it’s more portable. This is important if you want to weld aluminum architectural trim on top of a roof. However, if you have a shop and put your welding machine in one place and never move it, portability isn’t important.• Input power. Most conventional transformers require 208/230 or 460-volt, single-phase input power. Inverter power supplies also can function on these input voltages. However, many inverters will function on 115-V, single-phase input power at reduced capacity, about 100 amps maximum. This is an advantage for those who desire a portable power supply, but isn’t for those who don’t move their power supply around a lot.• Efficiency. Inverters are more efficient than transformers. A conventional GTAW power supply takes 60-Hz input power and transforms it to low-voltage welding power, either 60-Hz AC for welding aluminum or DC for welding other metals.An inverter power supply takes 60-Hz input power, rectifies it, then inverts it to AC of 8,000 to 25,000 Hz before transforming it to low-voltage welding power. The fact that the inverter is working with higher-frequency AC makes it more efficient. This means that, all other things being equal, the inverter power supply will be cheaper to run than the conventional power supply.However, the difference in operating cost has been overstated in some cases. In an article written a few years ago, the author said that the cost of a new inverter power supply can be paid off in 14 months of decreased electricity cost. However, there was one problem with this number. The decimal point was misplaced. The numbers really showed that the cost of the power supply could be offset by 140 months of reduced electricity cost.Yes, inverters cost less to run, but the cost differential by itself isn’t enough to justify buying new power supplies.• Purchase cost. Inverter power supplies are at a disadvantage here. Inverters, especially AC inverters, are more complicated to manufacture and generally cost more than conventional power supplies of similar capacity.Everything I’ve said so far applies to both AC and DC power supplies. So what are the specific advantages of an AC inverter for GTAW of aluminum alloys? Basically, there are three:1. No need for continuous high frequency. Inverters produce AC in a fundamentally different way than transformer-based power supplies do. While conventional power supplies require that high frequency be used continuously to stabilize the arc, most inverters do not.Instead, high frequency only strikes the arc, resulting in several advantages. First, this means that the opportunity for the high frequency to produce RF interference or to damage delicate electronics in the area is less. Second, the arc is more stable. Third, there is no chance of the high frequency etching the grain boundaries in the heat-affected zone (HAZ). This often is discovered in liquid penetrant inspection, in which the etching looks like myriad fine cracks.2. AC frequency is variable. Inverter power supplies allow the frequency of the AC output to vary. The range of AC frequencies usually is from about 20 Hz up to 200 Hz. This is an advantage because as the AC frequency is increased, the arc becomes stiffer and the arc cone narrows. The narrower arc cone deposits a smaller, or narrower, weld pass than can be deposited using 60-Hz AC. This is an advantage when welding thin aluminum or when weld aesthetics are important.3. Inverters offer an expanded balance range. In AC GTAW, weld penetration comes from the electrode negative (EN) portion of the AC and arc cleaning comes from the electrode positive (EP) portion of the AC. However, the more EP we use, the more arc energy goes into heating the tungsten electrode. This is why we use large-diameter, balled tungsten electrodes for AC welding.We found out many years ago that we don’t need 50 percent EP to obtain good arc cleaning. In fact, most conventional GTAW power supplies provide good arc cleaning with as little as 30 percent EP. Inverters have taken this a step farther. Many inverters provide good arc cleaning with only 15 percent EP in the arc. With only 15 percent EP, we put less heat into the tungsten electrode, which lets us use a smaller-diameter, sharpened tungsten.Smaller GTAW torches can be used, which are more convenient for the operator. In addition, the sharpened tungsten electrode narrows the arc, producing smaller, more aesthetically pleasing welds than can be produced with a balled tungsten.Is there an inverter-based GTAW power supply in your future? That depends. If you need the portability, or if you weld relatively thin aluminum in an industry in which weld appearance is of primary importance, the benefits may outweigh the added equipment cost.If you weld primarily heavy aluminum in an industry in which appearance is not that important, you may be better off with a conventional transformer-based GTAW power supply.Last edited by TxDoc; 02-10-2008 at 12:14 AM.
Reply:I would say the article is pretty much spot on.  The one thing wrong was your statement about amperage output.  There are higher amp inverters like the Dynasty 300 and 700.  Thermal also has a 400 amp unit.DennisThermal Arc 185-TSWMillermatic Challenger 172VictorO/AAtlas Craftsman 12 by 24 LatheEsab PCM-875Wholesalem Tool Mill-Drill
Reply:Don't forget that inverters have about 1534 more electronic components and more circuit boards in them to fail. A simple fan failure in any inverter power supply (welder, inverter, computer, or whatever electronic device) will result in a very rapid death, whereas a fan failure in a linear power supply usually won't harm much. Better devices have multiple themal sensors on all heat sinks.
Reply:For the most part it is accurate. I have both inverter and transformer based machines. I like the portability and versatility of the inverter. I also know that if it blows it will most likely be a major expense to have it repaired. Not that the transformer will be cheap, but they are pretty tried and true and seldom fail. One of my transformer units doesn't even have a fan, and only 3 moving parts. Not much to fail there.The difference between art and craft is the quality of the workmanship. I am an artist.
Reply:The other part of my business does two-way radio work. Just about all commercial transmitter sites use linear (transformer) based power supplies, as they will run for years. They are immune to surges, heat and other nasties. They simply don't fail. You'll rarely see a switching type (inverter) power supply used in these sites. There are linear supplies out there that were installed after the vacuum tube equipment was removed and they still operate. Linears also do not create RFI, EMI and other radiating harmonics.But I still love the light weight units!
Reply:Originally Posted by turboblownDon't forget that inverters have about 1534 more electronic components and more circuit boards in them to fail. A simple fan failure in any inverter power supply (welder, inverter, computer, or whatever electronic device) will result in a very rapid death, whereas a fan failure in a linear power supply usually won't harm much. Better devices have multiple themal sensors on all heat sinks.
Reply:I have used both.  Inverters and transformers for tig, mig and stick welding.  Inverter wins hands down!  They weld better.   DC tig, I can't tell the difference, but AC tig, mig and stick I can see the difference.  For longevity, I can only wait and see.  I own 2 transformer welders and 2 inverter machines and one transformer plasma and one inverter plasma.DavidReal world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:I know they use transformers. They use small ones. Most switchers use 2-4 small transformers. Anything is repairable, provided you can:A) properly diagnose the failure to the component levelB) Obtain partsThe big problem with these power supplies is information and getting the parts. Many of the internal parts and proprietary components that can be had only through the manufacturer...if they will sell them to you. Been there, done that! Also, many manufacturers will only sell a complete PC board to you when all that's needed is a 59 cent part. That 59 cent part now cost you $470 in the form of a PCB assy. Been there, done that too many times over and over.  And yes, these unit WILL fail if the wrong component overheats, as the thermal protection is usually only on the main FETs and current-handling components. Been there, done that.No, I won't put a linear type power supply over my shoulder since it's heavy. And the one that you DO put over your shoulder won't last as long as the one sitting on the floor of your shop that has a large copper wound transformer and simple conponents.Each has it ups and downs, but for longevity, the old machines will always triumph.