Water coolers, Noisy?

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Those out there that have water coolers such as for tig welding, can you tell me if they are noisy or not? If they are, is there any model that would be quieter than another? I've never been around one but I am considering one for my tig welder.Also if I build one, are there any other pumps to consider other than the Procon? Thanks in advance for any comments. Glen.
Reply:Is your machine water capable from the factory?If so I'd just use street water.....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Using tap water like Zap says is the quietest. It's the cheapest, too.I have a homemade stainless steel water circulator with a procon pump and also a Bernard 3500 SS with the same pump. They are both rather noisy. Not much you can do about it as the stainless steel acts like an amplifier for the motor and pump. I understand that some of the Miller and Lincoln welding coolers are much quieter...it pays to shop around. As mentioned, if you want quiet, go with the tap water. If I had a sink near my welder, I wouldn't even bother with a cooler. When I was at my welding school for a year, they used sinks and water taps on all of the TIG machines with no noise and no problems whatsoever.Miller Millermatic 252Miller Syncrowave 200Liincoln AC-DC 225Victor O-A Set
Reply:The garage where I have my welder has no water supply so tap water is out. The cooler that looks quieter to me would be the Miller Coolmate 4. It looks like it is surrounded by water. Does anyone have one they can comment on? The other alternative would be to build one using a small submersable pump if something like that would work.
Reply:Originally Posted by Glen StairsThe garage where I have my welder has no water supply so tap water is out. The cooler that looks quieter to me would be the Miller Coolmate 4. It looks like it is surrounded by water. Does anyone have one they can comment on? The other alternative would be to build one using a small submersable pump if something like that would work.
Reply:You could probably use a pump for a swamp type air conditioner and hose clamps as there is no real pressure involved. My Synchrowave came with the factory cooler and I had to look for water coming out to see if it was even running. It's quiet.The difference between art and craft is the quality of the workmanship. I am an artist.
Reply:1-I haven't used the miller coolers. I use the lincoln coolers, prior to thatI had jerry-rigged pumped setup; and learned--what works and don't:2-Adequate flow thru the torch, requires something with more pressure than a swamp cooler pump or HF submersible. There is substantial pressure drop, in all that plumbing, plus the torch leads. (mine are always 25')3-Normal #18 or #20 torches, 25' leads need 50 psi, with at least 1 GPM flow rated at that pressure. I used carpet cleaner pump available from Grainger.Speciality torches (flex head, swing head, etc.) often have restricted flow in the torch head--I've had to manually jack up the the Lincoln pump cutoff setting to 80 psi, min. just to get flow thru the torch..4-Since your garage is located in No. Maine, I'd suspect that you may encounter freezing conditions in your cooler, which is a whole nuther topic on which there are links to on this site.Blackbird
Reply:Originally Posted by dave powelson1-I haven't used the miller coolers. I use the lincoln coolers, prior to thatI had jerry-rigged pumped setup; and learned--what works and don't:2-Adequate flow thru the torch, requires something with more pressure than a swamp cooler pump or HF submersible. There is substantial pressure drop, in all that plumbing, plus the torch leads. (mine are always 25')3-Normal #18 or #20 torches, 25' leads need 50 psi, with at least 1 GPM flow rated at that pressure. I used carpet cleaner pump available from Grainger.Speciality torches (flex head, swing head, etc.) often have restricted flow in the torch head--I've had to manually jack up the the Lincoln pump cutoff setting to 80 psi, min. just to get flow thru the torch..4-Since your garage is located in No. Maine, I'd suspect that you may encounter freezing conditions in your cooler, which is a whole nuther topic on which there are links to on this site.
Reply:My syncrowave came with antifreeze, and if it didn't have the little plastic wagen wheel in the sight glass, I wouldn't even know it was running.
Reply:I have a Dynaflux (I think that's the name) TIG'r that uses the same Procon brass pump that most coolers use and yeah, it is a little noisy, but not much noisier than a shop fan and probly quieter than an AC buzz box.  The noise doesn't bother me.MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:The Synchro 250 I use at work has a Miller Coolmate 4 and it is very quiet. I think they cost like 4 or 5 hundred bucks though. Works real good though.