bought a bigger winch, need to make mount

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So finished that small reciever mount for that little winch of my dads, now I went and bought an old 5687 warn 8000LBS winch, got it for $150.00CDN I remember my dad used to have one on his big truck, so now because it is kind of old, they don't seem to have a matching mount for it, the reciever  ones and bumper ones all seem to be for a different type of mounting system and the holes don't match up, so figure I will try and make my own reciever mount, just have to see how heavy of metal I should use.She is a bit of a heavy one for lifting as it is.
Reply:Me and my buddy used some 2x2x1/4 wall square tube. Some 1/2" Plate and Made the plates to mount behind the bumper. With a small stinger that comes through the bumper that the winch mount Slides into.TJ
Reply:I actually have one of those winch's (not in as good as shape as yours) and it has a reaciver mount..I can take a pic if you like
Reply:Wow, once again you guys have come through, a picture would be nice of your set up.And thanks for the idea of what thickness steel to try.
Reply:i made this for mine Attached Images
Reply:What thickness steel did you use, Warn got back to me and said they don't deal with the old winches anymore as it was discontinued in 1974.Below is what they said:"Sorry, that winch was discontinued in 1974 and we no longer manufacture or service that model. I am not aware of anyone that manufactures a mount for the 6 bolt configuration and we do not recommend multi-mounts for the foot-forward style of winch that that is. Michael McEwenTechnical Customer Service Representative"
Reply:1/4 inch material, marked and drilled holes with a cardboard template... total weight about 90lbs Attached ImagesLast edited by six; 04-17-2010 at 12:53 AM.
Reply:Good info, I have the quick connector and I will have to look at my steel, I know I have some 1/2" steel plate, but probably would be too heavy, I figured I would weld all the stuff together as I am not really set up to bend anything really thick, all we have at work is a metal break for bodyshop stuff.
Reply:Sorry...a bit of a thread hi-jack...I just got a small (2500lb) winch that is receiver hitch mounted.  I am using it to drag some firewood logs around at the cabin etc. I want to make the wires to the battery longer.  Does anyone know where I can find these plugs?
Reply:i think i saw those connectors in a napa parts and service catolog. i can look on monday and get back to you.
Reply:[QUOTE=Tony Mo;384635]Does anyone know where I can find these plugs?Princess AutoThey are on Page 5 of PDF or page 140 of the current catalog.http://www.princessauto.com/images/s...elding_271.pdf
Reply:i used 3/16 plate with 2" cannelnorther tools have those plugs Attached Images
Reply:At work we buy them all the time from NAPA. They have the smaller one that you have and a large one for big winches. Looks like the mount is coming along nicely.
Reply:digikey.com has a ton of connectors (not certain if they have yours) -- and they don't seem to mind sending out samples.
Reply:Originally Posted by Tony MoSorry...a bit of a thread hi-jack...I just got a small (2500lb) winch that is receiver hitch mounted.  I am using it to drag some firewood logs around at the cabin etc. I want to make the wires to the battery longer.  Does anyone know where I can find these plugs?
Reply:My only problem I gather from Warn is that mine mounts on the front, not the bottom. so that is a pile of torque pulling on a lip and not the base as in your pic of your mount.I am curious if I could rotate the right side one down as it does spin and mount it to the base and the left front one then would be the only one putting all that leverage on a front lip.Wonder if that would work?Last edited by partsman; 04-17-2010 at 02:23 PM.
Reply:weld your tube to the inside of a channel??? probably would need gussets for strength-- fredLincoln 180C MIG
Reply:Can you simply rotate your winch as oriented in the picture below and then just make a base similar to Ed Mac's? Attached Images
Reply:The arrows may make the picture a little more clear (I hope). Attached Images
Reply:The drawing is a little crude but this is what I was picturing in my head. Attached Images Attached ImagesIMG.pdf (112.8 KB, 17 views)
Reply:Don't believe so, as mine has an oil fill hole at top and the oil lever near the bottom, takes a 30W non detergent, so if layed down it would not get the oil distributed to the areas requiring it, and I think that would be a real problem, I know when my dad had one he overfilled it, and it had to be taken apart and cleaned up.
Reply:Bummer.I didn't look at your 3rd picture close enough.Are you wanting a front mount or a reciever mount?
Reply:I was hoping to make a receiver mount,
Reply:some more pics of basic carrier Attached Images
Reply:Do you have the tools to make something like this?  The handles would make it a bit easier to put it on or take it off the truck/jeep. Attached ImagesYes, I have a 180 arc welder at home and a gas setup also, at work we have a plasma cutter and a couple mig machines, I have never mig welded, but have acess to them if I asked the body guys, so I could probably fab it up, if not I could send it to our welding/machine shop, but that is not as easy as in the old days, and it may take them a while to have free time, plus I like the satisfaction of making things myself.
Reply:here's one on amazon for comparison 52, 59 & 66 Lincoln SA200, Tombstone Idealarc 250, Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 50, Marquette 250 amp mig, Miller 330 A/BP
Reply:I wouldn't rotate the end plate.  You should keep the mounts in plane with each other, to prevent any torque/twisting of the drum.  Go with a heavier plate, i.e. 1/4" minimum, grade 8 mounting bolts, then build a cage around the front/sides to tie it all together.Then I think it should be fine.  If you overstress the mounting bolts, you have to ask yourself "Why was I trying to pull that?"MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:I'll snap some pics today!!
Reply:Much appreciate all the input, one of the problems seems to be that mine will mount to the front, a lot more torque than mounting on the bottom of a plate and being more of a shear load.
Reply:Originally Posted by partsmanMuch appreciate all the input, one of the problems seems to be that mine will mount to the front, a lot more torque than mounting on the bottom of a plate and being more of a shear load.
Reply:I called "famous maker" Winch company for parts once. A pleasant lady asked me for the unit's serial number. She asked us to be sure not to use the winch and said that we would be contacted with repair instructions. First thing the next  morning.... pssshhhhhhttttt clang, rattle - a semi-trailer backed up to the door after an all-night red-eye run, with nothing aboard but one brand-new replacement winch, some freebees, and orders to pick up the old winch. All at no cost.Alfred said: "I hope you wrote down the serial number - ‘cause next time we're working on a winch, we'll just call them and use the next consecutive number." Good Luck
Reply:Tony Mo, those connectors are made by SMH and Anderson, you can find 'em on ebay all the time. I see that one is marked CPE, never heard of that name but the size looks like it might be a 50 or 75 amp connector. One thing I've heard about those connectors is you have to match the colors, blue won't work with yellow, etc. I have a set of heavy jumper cables that hook to my truck's battery that uses a larger version of that connector, they're grey and are 175 amp rated. Here's a search link to ebay for 'em:http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=%28...&_sop=15&_sc=1RD 1984 Chevrolet C30 welding truck1966 Lincoln SA200 Continental F162 1942 Lincoln SA200 Hercules IXB-51991 Lincoln LN25
Reply:Originally Posted by RobertDoubravaTony Mo, those connectors are made by SMH and Anderson, you can find 'em on ebay all the time. I see that one is marked CPE, never heard of that name but the size looks like it might be a 50 or 75 amp connector. One thing I've heard about those connectors is you have to match the colors, blue won't work with yellow, etc. I have a set of heavy jumper cables that hook to my truck's battery that uses a larger version of that connector, they're grey and are 175 amp rated. Here's a search link to ebay for 'em:
Reply:Originally Posted by SandyThe color of shell is a matter of choice. The two choices that are critical are body style then the amperage, but you can get the same amp rating in several colors. . . .
Reply:Thanks for the help guys.
Reply:Sandy, I aint trying to stir up the pot here but the size and color both does matter. Sure, you can't plug a 50 into a 75 as they're different sizes. Now even though the connectors are the same size and amp rating, the mating end of the connectors are molded differently for each color with slightly different interlocking teeth. I have a pile of old battery cables that have the 175 amp connectors in blue, green, and grey that I've tried to connect an opposite color to, no go. I'm guessing they were made that way so cables with different color connectors weren't hooked up wrong.RD 1984 Chevrolet C30 welding truck1966 Lincoln SA200 Continental F162 1942 Lincoln SA200 Hercules IXB-51991 Lincoln LN25
Reply:Originally Posted by RobertDoubravaSandy, I aint trying to stir up the pot here but the size and color both does matter. Sure, you can't plug a 50 into a 75 as they're different sizes. Now even though the connectors are the same size and amp rating, the mating end of the connectors are molded differently for each color with slightly different interlocking teeth. I have a pile of old battery cables that have the 175 amp connectors in blue, green, and grey that I've tried to connect an opposite color to, no go. I'm guessing they were made that way so cables with different color connectors weren't hooked up wrong.
Reply:Sure thing!  I just wanted to be sure he didn't go about gettin 'em mixed up and end up with the wrong one.RD 1984 Chevrolet C30 welding truck1966 Lincoln SA200 Continental F162 1942 Lincoln SA200 Hercules IXB-51991 Lincoln LN25