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This is what's called a "water gap" in a fence line.  It's a gap in the fence over waterThe clear span of the panel is approximately 20 feet.It's an unusual design.  It's not anchored into the ground, but rides on a skid/rear brace which is anchored to the ground by sections of rebar driven thru holes in the skids.  I finished so late that it was dark, so no pics of this feature, but will put some up tomorrowThe reason for the design is the shallow depth of the soil on the creek bank.  You hit rock one foot down.  To rent a rock hammer is 300 bucks a day, so this is the design I opted forThe bottom pipe, skid/rear braces, and uprights were tacked in place as the pipe sat.  This is to make sure that the skids conform to the uneven creek bank.The mess was then lifted out, and finished on the creek bank, then lifted back into place.I still need to add some lengths of rebar to close the gap between the surface of the water and the bottom of the panel.  That's for tomorrow  Not looking forward to standing in water to weld them on, but it is what it isThe pipe came from a refinery shutdown, and had some real nasty paint on it Attached Images"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:That is sooo midwest or mideast. Or is it "I've some some new cows coming and I'm worried they won't follow the routine".Looks good (well maybe not the water/standing in/welding part)!Matt
Reply:Stupid cows decided they weren't afraid of the electric fence I'd been using to close the gap, so I figured I needed to beef it up.Besides Matt, we're considered to be on the edge of the Southwest here  How Oklahoma became part of the Southwest I'll never know  Southern Plains I can see, but Southwest"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Nice work Samm.Speaking of late nighter - Were a few of us having a WeldingWeb discussion that may have strayed slightly from topic, -while we were waiting for OP and others to submit interpretations- but remained strictly polite and congenial? Or did I dream that? I wanted to check up on it tonight but I can't find the thread anywhere. Good Luck
Reply:Around here they tie wire to big rocks and throw the rocks in the crick. Then they keep weaving wire till it's a goobered up spider web. Then it floods and rips it all out and they chase cows for a week and do it all over again, and again, and again------------------"The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore Roosevelt
Reply:Originally Posted by denrepNice work Samm.Speaking of late nighter - Were a few of us having a WeldingWeb discussion that may have strayed slightly from topic, -while we were waiting for OP and others to submit interpretations- but remained strictly polite and congenial? Or did I dream that? I wanted to check up on it tonight but I can't find the thread anywhere. Good Luck
Reply:I saw nothing impolite in your analysis of the article in question"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammStupid cows decided they weren't afraid of the electric fence I'd been using to close the gap, so I figured I needed to beef it up.Besides Matt, we're considered to be on the edge of the Southwest here  How Oklahoma became part of the Southwest I'll never know  Southern Plains I can see, but Southwest
Reply:Originally Posted by SandyAround here they tie wire to big rocks and throw the rocks in the crick. Then they keep weaving wire till it's a goobered up spider web. Then it floods and rips it all out and they chase cows for a week and do it all over again, and again, and again------------------
Reply:Originally Posted by tanglediverI figure if they want to call OK a part of the southwest, they must be Missourian.
Reply:Rather than welding while standing in the water, sacrifice an old measuring tape and take a few measurements while the fence section is in place. then weld the rods on the creekbank.  I'm sure you have thought of that, and I just don't have the "big picture" Nctox,  Stickmate LX  235AC/160DC  HH210
Reply:I wouldn't weld in gym shorts and tennis shoes
Reply:Samm, they classify OK as southwest, because the same people consider Ohio the midwest.Idiots that have never been past the Mississippi have no clue, even when they look at a map.We used a similar "gate" over the creeks/waterways on the farm.  We did have an anchor & a pivot attached though.  We used some hedge stumps to weight it down, then tied it to the bottom of the "gate" with #9 wire.  During the spring high water flow, it would swing away, but drop back down when the water level went down.  Using these gave us a few days of leeway to check it & keep the cows in.MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:Let's see, when the region was developed, the colonies called everything westward......WEST.  Now it would be silly if the colonies were first settled on the california coast to call it west.  I suppose they would call it EAST.  I don't know, I am just thinking out loud for the moment.fust junning with ya.
Reply:Now Sam don't ya know you never anchor the bottom of a flood gap. You always hinge it from the top so it can swing out when the trash gets pushed up against it.   I need to go get pics of the one down the road. Has to be the most overkill flood gap I've ever seen. Of course when you own a company with a fleet of welders, track hoes, ditchers and the like you can afford to build a gap like that.Millermatic 252XMT 304'sDynasty 280DXHypertherm PowerMax 1250Miller Trailblazer 302 EFIOptima PulserXR feeder and XR Edge gun and more athttp://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook/index.htm
Reply:Originally Posted by irish fixitNow Sam don't ya know you never anchor the bottom of a flood gap. You always hinge it from the top so it can swing out when the trash gets pushed up against it.   I need to go get pics of the one down the road. Has to be the most overkill flood gap I've ever seen. Of course when you own a company with a fleet of welders, track hoes, ditchers and the like you can afford to build a gap like that.
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammA hinge, or breakaway, design would be perfect........in a perfect world.  A one way hinge opening with the flow of water, but blocked in the reverse direction would be positively ORGASMIC  (well.......sorta)
Reply:Had to go look at a impossible job today (I hate it when they want miracles) and went by the water gap I mentioned so I snapped a pic. As I said this guy has lots of money and equipment so can afford to do stuff like this. Attached ImagesMillermatic 252XMT 304'sDynasty 280DXHypertherm PowerMax 1250Miller Trailblazer 302 EFIOptima PulserXR feeder and XR Edge gun and more athttp://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook/index.htm
Reply:In all the excitement I forgot about the other panel thingy.I dunno if it's going to work, but the idea is to leave as much unimpeded space below the mesh as possible.  Hoping the water will flow easier.  And hoping the waterborne debris will fit through the gap  Had one fairly heavy rain after it was installed, but I didn't get down there to see just how high the water had risen, and how the design behaved.  It's still in place thoughAnd IrishFixit..............you people just got tooo darn much money down there  Very nice, and very workable stuff in your pics Attached Images"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Looks good to me. There's less for it to catch on alright.   I agree that the guy I pictured has to much money. Farming is a hobby for him.Millermatic 252XMT 304'sDynasty 280DXHypertherm PowerMax 1250Miller Trailblazer 302 EFIOptima PulserXR feeder and XR Edge gun and more athttp://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook/index.htm