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Any of you blokes ever made an interesting spiral stair? I need one. There are kits around, but they all look a bit lame. I want something that looks a bit industrial.Yeah, I carry.House keys, wallet, some change, usually a newspaper, maybe a pen.
Reply:Hello Scott, I have worked on a few and have a model of a rather simple one. I'll try to include a few pictures of them. The first is one that is installed at a gentleman's home that overlooks the Columbia River in Longview, WA., the rest of the pictures are examples that I have in our classroom to describe the basic process of a simple design that uses sections of pipe that the treads are attached to and can be rotated into position on a center pole before tacking/welding into place. Hope this gives you some inspiration. Best regards, Allan Attached Imagesaevald
Reply:Originally Posted by scott brunsdonAny of you blokes ever made an interesting spiral stair? I need one. There are kits around, but they all look a bit lame. I want something that looks a bit industrial.
Reply:Originally Posted by aevaldHello Scott, I have worked on a few and have a model of a rather simple one. I'll try to include a few pictures of them. The first is one that is installed at a gentleman's home that overlooks the Columbia River in Longview, WA., the rest of the pictures are examples that I have in our classroom to describe the basic process of a simple design that uses sections of pipe that the treads are attached to and can be rotated into position on a center pole before tacking/welding into place. Hope this gives you some inspiration. Best regards, Allan
Reply:Hello Geezer, first, I like the clean look of the spiral staircase that you included pictures of. Now, to your question, those treads are only about 8" long. They are part of a model  that I use in the classroom to "show" a basic spiral staircase design. As well as adding rigidity to a tread the "upbroke" back prevents slipping through the tread if it happens to be wet. Thanks for the question and including your pictures. Best regards, Allanaevald
Reply:Allan, I do not want to heist Scotts post, but what did you use to fab the flar bar handrail?Is it .125 x maybe 3 ro 4?GeezerPower Mig 255C185 TIGBlue 175 MIGRanger 8 Kohler 20HP1974 5K Lincoln/Wisconsin Powered (Cherry)Victor/Harris O/AK 487 Spool Gun
Reply:Thanks guys.Feel free to heist, geezer.They're both nice and simple.I also like the look of the 'upbroke' back.They're such a simple thing when a centre pole is used and the treads are attached to bits of pipe.Making the treads out of check plate would help with the slip factor, too.Yeah, I carry.House keys, wallet, some change, usually a newspaper, maybe a pen.
Reply:Originally Posted by scott brunsdonThanks guys. They're such a simple thing when a centre pole is used and the treads are attached to bits of pipe.
Reply:I've built somewhere between 2 and 3 dozen over the years.Got another one coming up in the next few weeks.Here's the last one I built last summer.http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=32701Brian LeonardAppalachian Ironworks L.L.C.434 Long Branch Rd, Marshall, NC 28753828 649 9966828 702 [email protected]
Reply:Friend I worked with and I built one for a penthouse condo owner who bought the unit bellow his. Wanted to joint the two into one. Drilled out an 11' hole in the concrete floor for the spiral staircase to go through. Had to build on site, so we hand carried 3000+lbs up 6 flights of stairs. "architect's" drawings were worthless; measurements had multiple errors . There was a three foot empty "column" space up the middle that was supposed to get sculpture through it; never did get to do that. What a Pain in the A$$!!!!! Thought, this monster would be there forever! Nope, two years later it was ripped out. Idiots with money.200amp Air Liquide MIG, Hypertherm Plasma, Harris torches, Optrel helmet, Makita angle grinders, Pre-China Delta chop saw and belt sander, Miller leathers, shop made jigs etc, North- welders backpack.
Reply:Originally Posted by app-ironworksllcI've built somewhere between 2 and 3 dozen over the years.Got another one coming up in the next few weeks.Here's the last one I built last summer.http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=32701
Reply:here's a curved one I built in Honduras about twenty years ago. Although it is practical, somehow steel never seems to do it quite like wood does for curved or spiral staircases.I might be just a bit biased on this though, been doing custom woodwork as a profession for 38 years, welding only as a hobby most of that time.http://www.pixilink.com/tours5/1401-kerfoot-j/Last edited by worntorn; 06-16-2010 at 07:34 PM.
Reply:Nice curve on that timber one.There was an old steel spiral stair at a construction site for ages earelier this year. I used to walk past it on the way to the station. They would have been scrapping it.Every time I saw it, I thought, 'I really should offer them a couple of hundred dollars for that.' But at the time I was thinking of putting in a straight timber stair. The spiral is a recent decision. It's always the way.Yeah, I carry.House keys, wallet, some change, usually a newspaper, maybe a pen.
Reply:Lots of ideas here:http://www.stairporn.org/category/metal-stairs/Jack OlsenMy garage website
Reply:I reckon some of those will be way beyond me, Jack.A question fro Avaeld and Brian (app). I hope I can ask this question in a way that makes sense - it's hard just in words.I like the steps with the downward bend at the front and the upward bend at the back.Now, where the step attaches to the post, there is a zig zag weld i.e. the front upturn is a vertical weld, then there is a couple of inches of horizontal, then another vertical for the back of the step.Would it be possible for this weld/junction to be all vertical i.e. no zig zag? So the bends (for the upturn and downturn) would start in from the welded edge.It would mean that there would be less useable stepping area, but would there be any other problems?Of course, none of the above may make any sense.Yeah, I carry.House keys, wallet, some change, usually a newspaper, maybe a pen.