AT THE NHRA DRAG RACES! completely different than ms. mostly made craters due to not enough filler and moving too slow. the lincoln rep. came over and showed me what i was doing wrong. i finally managed to run one good bead before they ran out of gas. i used the invertec 205. ran damn nice.Millermatic 211weldpack 3200 squirtgunsquare wave 200victory journeyman kitHypertherm 30xptoo much other crap to listtinkerer extraordinaire