Just another welder cart

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Just another unfinished welder cart.I had hoped to be able to finish this project with only free, found, salvaged material, but got tired of waiting for an axle to come around.  So, because I can't decide to do something during a week day when a cheaper solution than Lowes would be open, I ran to town for a bit of rod.Just some old bed frame.I still need to snap a photo of the less than great welds, but all of them on the bed rail were done with 3/32 7018, other stuff with 1/8 6011The tires and wheels were given to me by a friend a couple of years ago.Still need to add a floor to the bottom shelf.  I'm thinking about holding out until I can find some expanded metal for free.  There will also be a taller shelf, along with a place to wind up the leads, store some other goodies, like the fire extinguisher in the background.Before I do all that, I have to cut the axle off the cart and move it back half an inch.  The positive lead rubs on the tire in the current position. During fit up, I knew there was something I was missing...Oh well, once I'm finished, I'll have less than $10 in the cart.OLD miller M-295  (AC)Century 230/140 ac/dcVictor torchNot much else but some cheap tools.
Reply:Just a thought .. the last time I needed a axle that size for a project (a pressure washer cart) I used 2 bolts and nuts. I then drilled and cotter pinned them thru the nut and its worked great for 4 years so far.
Reply:Originally Posted by dumb as a stumpJust a thought .. the last time I needed a axle that size for a project (a pressure washer cart) I used 2 bolts and nuts. I then drilled and cotter pinned them thru the nut and its worked great for 4 years so far.
Reply:I think I would have out the handle on the other side.
Reply:Originally Posted by jreynoldsweldingI think I would have out the handle on the other side.
Reply:Pretty simple and effective and love the usage of INEXPENSIVE metal!...  Question though...I wonder if maybe the handle should have been bent or welded at a 30 degree or better angle (about 3/4 the way up) or something so that you don't have to 'pick it up' as much, thus making it with more 'appropriate fulcrum' resulting in more of a 'Tilt and Go' kinda' thing...   It looks a bit awkward from the photo... perhaps it's just the photo?Cheers,Miller Diversion 165120 amp Buzz BoxVictor Oxy/Ace Oxy/LPGSmith "Little" Oxy/LPGHypertherm Powermax 30Lot's of Misc. tools n' crap....
Reply:some of that bed frame material you really have to watch. i used some one time as a stop for a tool box that rolled out from under my welder in my truck. well it welded up nice, but i rolled out the box one time and it hit the angle from the bed frame and went right through it like it wasnt there. after the cussing and screaming from having to pick up my box off the ground, i looked at the bed frame crap i used and it had busted right next to the weld, in the HAZ, but what got me was the fact it looked like cast. i took that peice and cut it and welded it back together and slammed it down on the table. it was like doing the same thing with a dead tree branch, broke right off, and the real screwed up thing was that the weld itself actually broke off from both peices. i guess it was the best steel china had to offer us....lol... i though it might have been cast, but it was  in a break, and holes formed with a die. one that still screws with my head
Reply:Originally Posted by jmanPretty simple and effective and love the usage of INEXPENSIVE metal!...  Question though...I wonder if maybe the handle should have been bent or welded at a 30 degree or better angle (about 3/4 the way up) or something so that you don't have to 'pick it up' as much, thus making it with more 'appropriate fulcrum' resulting in more of a 'Tilt and Go' kinda' thing...   It looks a bit awkward from the photo... perhaps it's just the photo?Cheers,
Reply:Originally Posted by Hammerweldersome of that bed frame material you really have to watch. i used some one time as a stop for a tool box that rolled out from under my welder in my truck. well it welded up nice, but i rolled out the box one time and it hit the angle from the bed frame and went right through it like it wasnt there. after the cussing and screaming from having to pick up my box off the ground, i looked at the bed frame crap i used and it had busted right next to the weld, in the HAZ, but what got me was the fact it looked like cast. i took that peice and cut it and welded it back together and slammed it down on the table. it was like doing the same thing with a dead tree branch, broke right off, and the real screwed up thing was that the weld itself actually broke off from both peices. i guess it was the best steel china had to offer us....lol... i though it might have been cast, but it was  in a break, and holes formed with a die. one that still screws with my head
Reply:Went out and did a weld without post heat, but with 7018.  I should have set it up differently, but two bits of bed rail, back to back.  Put the hammer to it, and got cracking in the HAZ, but only after starting to bend it one direction, and then the other. Took quite a few blows. I was able to bend it nearly all the way over before the cracking began.  The metal had the brittle look, but not as bad as I expected.Later today I'll do a butt weld with and without post heat.Either way, I'm satisfied with the results so far.  I'm not afraid to use bedframe in projects that will not have that type of beating done to them. Of course I'd never use it something that would see that type of stress, like a trailer, or ladder, etc.OLD miller M-295  (AC)Century 230/140 ac/dcVictor torchNot much else but some cheap tools.
Reply:Rowdius, that looks 'top heavy' to me.  I know that particular welder has it's heavy transformer about 2/3 way up inside the box - making the welder a 'bitc?' to pick up and handle by hand.  I have a vision of you trundling the card along and attempting to ride up over even a small curb... and the welder flipping off the back of the cart!!!  Have you thought maybe adding a strap to hold/tie the welder down to the frame?Rick V 1 Airco Heliwelder 3A/DDR3 CTC 70/90 amp Stick/Tig Inverters in Parallel1 Lincoln MIG PAK 151 Oxy-Acet
Reply:Put the handle on the other end where the wheels are and the welder is??? Tilt it back like a standard dolly."The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore Roosevelt
Reply:Originally Posted by Rick VRowdius, that looks 'top heavy' to me.  I know that particular welder has it's heavy transformer about 2/3 way up inside the box - making the welder a 'bitc?' to pick up and handle by hand.  I have a vision of you trundling the card along and attempting to ride up over even a small curb... and the welder flipping off the back of the cart!!!  Have you thought maybe adding a strap to hold/tie the welder down to the frame?
Reply:i learned from the wheelbarrow..put the handles on stuff low so when you straighten your legs  your arms are extended and the thing is off the ground so you are not lifting it with muscles..this thing weighs more than 200pounds, rolls easy(i have heavy steel wheels to put on it today..the 16 " lawnmower wheels in the foto are tooo light .. Attached Images
Reply:i learned from the wheelbarrow..put the handles on stuff low so when you straighten your legs  your arms are extended and the thing is off the ground so you are not lifting it with muscles..this thing weighs more than 200pounds, rolls easy(i have heavy steel wheels to put on it today..the 16 " lawnmower wheels in the foto are tooo light ..
Reply:Originally Posted by weldbeadi learned from the wheelbarrow..put the handles on stuff low so when you straighten your legs  your arms are extended and the thing is off the ground so you are not lifting it with muscles..this thing weighs more than 200pounds, rolls easy(i have heavy steel wheels to put on it today..the 16 " lawnmower wheels in the foto are tooo light ..
Reply:those supports are 8" pipe clamps..i put the steel wheels on it yesterday...thanks for the comment, didnt mean to   hijack yer thread..
Reply:Originally Posted by weldbeadthose supports are 8" pipe clamps..i put the steel wheels on it yesterday...thanks for the comment, didnt mean to   hijack yer thread..
Reply:yes..i try to not buy anything unless its something speceial...