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when you  do fabrication what is the thing you dislike the most it could be anythingi try to avoid drillingits hard to get good drill bits and a good drill will brake your wristLast edited by ed mac; 07-18-2010 at 06:55 PM.
Reply:Cutting apart what I just welded up because I didn't position it right in the first place.MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:bending tubing!spring back sucks! i will only do it if i get paid well for it, and being a student and not getting paid for the PITA projects we have to do it sucks.
Reply:I will second duane. When you think you have something square or you are going to be done in a few minutes then you realize a mistake and have to tear it apart and clean everthing up again!
Reply:Originally Posted by ed macwhen you  do fabrication what is the thing you dislike the most it could be anythingi try to avoid drillingits hard to get good drill bits and a good drill will brake your wrist
Reply:Basically anything having to do with grinding.I am what I am, Deal with it!If necessity is the Mother of Invention, I must be the Father of Desperation!
Reply:Hate 3 things...grinding, grinding and grinding.A man is judged by what's between his legs...always ride a good horseMiller DialArc HFLincoln Classic 300DThermal Arc 181iPowermax 45Scotchman Ironworker(2) BridgeportsOkomota Surface GrinderAutoCAD 2010
Reply:I also have to side w/ Duane. As for the drilling, I've had a Milwaukee 1/2" holeshooter for quite a few yrs and I'm always ready for it to hang up at the end of the hole. When I first got it I was drilling a 1/2" hole thru 1/2" plate and it hung and wound me up so tight I could barely get my trigger finger off the switch!                                       MikeOl' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:I hate drilling out stainless rivets overhead!!Miller Dynasty 700Miller 350P with Aluma-pro push-pullMiller 280 Dynasty with expansion card Dynasty 200 DXMigMax 215 Enuff power and hand tools to create one of anything..... but mass produce nothing!!!
Reply:Figuring heat shrinkage. "Oh what a beautiful sculptured pretzel you made!"It's a table. City of L.A. Structural; Manual & Semi-Automatic;"Surely there is a mine for silver, and a place where gold is refined. Iron is taken from the earth, and copper is smelted from ore."Job 28:1,2Lincoln, Miller, Victor & ISV BibleDanny
Reply:Cleaning dirty greasy godforsaken crap off whatever it is that I am supposed to repair......zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:I'm also with Duane! I do have to agree that drilling is a PITA! I have alot of experience with drills. I have gotten pretty good (some say magical) at getting broken bits out. I have found that using an air drill reduces the wrist yank when drilling and getting to the break through point.
Reply:Drilling sucks. Grinding sucks. But, to me, dealing with customers is one of the worst parts of fabrication work.  Some customers are great, but many of them are just awful to deal with.I would rather be drilling and grinding at the same time than trying to explain to someone that I am not running a charity but rather a business, and that I do not work for FREE.
Reply:Customers that see the finished product and say "That's not what I was talking about"Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom.
Reply:My least favorite thing is when hot chips from a carbide metal cutting saw that stick to my bare skin and I can't get them off until I finish the cut.Ian TannerKawasaki KX450 and many other fine tools
Reply:Originally Posted by zapsterCleaning dirty greasy godforsaken crap off whatever it is that I am supposed to repair......zap!
Reply:Originally Posted by BrainfarthCustomers that see the finished product and say "That's not what I was talking about"
Reply:Hey guys,I gotta go with Duane & Zaps' responses. I like the post about "measure twice...cut once. As far as prepping, like Zap, I am not fond of having to clean a disgusting piece to get a good repair that could have been done by the owner. I have found, many times, all that garbage that needs cleaned will also reveal additional damage not observed by the owner. Then the customer growls because it is going to cost more than originally anticipated. Just last week I had (3) large mower decks come in for repairs......Yup.....none had been cleaned. 1-3" of deck mulch hardened & rotting.....stinkin' mold. Yes, & (2) of them had additional damage hiding under the mulch. I made sure each customer saw all the repair that was needed prior to my starting. If they would have decided against the repair, they would have gotten a $25 charge for the cleaning of the repair area. Didn't have any complaints or problems....good customers.DennyComplete Welding/Machine/Fab. ShopMobile UnitFinally retired*Moderator*"A man's word is his honor...without honor there is nothing.""Words are like bullets.... Once they leave your muzzle, you cannot get them back."
Reply:grinding inside my shop and getting grinding dust everywhere, torching something and the slag blowing right in your face, and fabricating out in the 105 degree heat drives me nuts, I would rather be freezing cold
Reply:When you run out of oxygen/argon/wire/etc on your weekend project on a  saturday afternoon and you're gonna have to wail til monday morning to get more.
Reply:Originally Posted by zoraWhen you run out of oxygen/argon/wire/etc on your weekend project on a  saturday afternoon and you're gonna have to wail til monday morning to get more.
Reply:Measuring something perfectly and then when I transfer it to Cadd, I forget a whole object. Everything is precise, everything is perfect, except I forget to draw in a whole step, or double check a length of a diagonal, and I am off by a foot or more. It is just perfectly wrong. I actually brought a rail one time to a guys house, sweetly powder coated. Laid it on the stoop, going to chalk it for diamond coring. It looked like just another perfect fit, so level. Then I looked left and it was short exactly one step. I just laughed and said I would see him in a few days with a new one. We both got a laugh out of it. But that burns my biscuits.        Sincerely,             William McCormick
Reply:Drilling with a hand drillGrinding anything, anytimeMoving heavy steelMoving the welding machines aroundWorking on a hot dayBreathing dust from the grinder and chop sawCutting steel in a confined area where the slag blows back in your faceAnd grindingDid I leave anything out??"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply::d:d:d:d:d"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammDrilling with a hand drillGrinding anything, anytimeMoving heavy steelMoving the welding machines aroundWorking on a hot dayBreathing dust from the grinder and chop sawCutting steel in a confined area where the slag blows back in your faceAnd grindingDid I leave anything out??making up your mind on how your going to build something
Reply:I hate my shop... its a 4 car garage that's. Way too damn packed for me. I guess some of its my fault for hoarding junk, and every time I step over it, instead of doing something with it, telling myself I'm going to use it, put it on craigslist, etc. Add a taken apart farm tractor, a couple garden tractors, a dead air compressor, tires, wheels and rims, tractor parts, truck parts, a month of sandblasting to cover everything in dust, and a few cats (I HATE barn cats) and its really not a nice place to work.
Reply:Originally Posted by duaneb55Cutting apart what I just welded up because I didn't position it right in the first place.
Reply:having your friend tell you they sell that bracket for $5.00 at home depot...after speending much time fabing it...
Reply:Originally Posted by LanseI hate my shop... its a 4 car garage that's. Way too damn packed for me. I guess some of its my fault for hoarding junk, and every time I step over it, instead of doing something with it, telling myself I'm going to use it, put it on craigslist, etc. Add a taken apart farm tractor, a couple garden tractors, a dead air compressor, tires, wheels and rims, tractor parts, truck parts, a month of sandblasting to cover everything in dust, and a few cats (I HATE barn cats) and its really not a nice place to work.
Reply:honestly, the dang draw when trying to keep things square, I've gotten alot better though.and keeping the shop clean.With the right tools, honestly most chores are enjoyable to me, like said before, seeing what I just created really does make it all worth itHH187Hobart 500i plasma cutterClark 4.5" GrinderDewalt 14" chop saw30 gallom 1.6 hp compressor10 gallon pressure pot sand blasterlots of hand tools
Reply:Originally Posted by LanseI hate my shop... its a 4 car garage.......
Reply:I dislike repairing things that have already had a repair attemped by a so called welder because he has a mig welder. I put it on the bill, repair cost doubled because of the extra work repairing a repair attemp.Grinding Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!! Miller 330 A/BP Bernard SS coolerMiller cst 250Miller Big Blue 251DCentury 210 Mig (first welder I bought)Hypertherm PowerMax 800Victor torch setRu Fong 31 MilAtlas lathe
Reply:Originally Posted by toolmanI dislike repairing things that have already had a repair attemped by a so called welder because he has a mig welder. I put it on the bill, repair cost doubled because of the extra work repairing a repair attemp.Grinding Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply:1. AIR-ARCING---I really hate it!2. Working in 95 degree, 95 percent humidity weather3. Working in the rain4. Finding a 3 meter black spitting cobra in a shovel boom i'm working on--(happened yesterday)6 Miller Big Blue 600 Air Paks2 Miller 400D6 Lincoln LN-25's4 Miller Xtreme 12VS2 Miller Dimension 812 4 Climax BW-3000Z bore welders Hypertherm 65 and 85Bug-O Track BugPair of Welpers
Reply:Originally Posted by ExpatWelderFinding a 3 meter black spitting cobra in a shovel boom i'm working on--(happened yesterday)
Reply:Finding a 3 meter black spitting cobra in a shovel boom i'm working on--(happened yesterday) Ok expat you win, At least as far as I'm concerned. That beats the crap out of the worst thing I've found!
Reply:A couple months ago one of my guys got bit by a cobra twice IN the shop!  Fortunately he was not injected with venom and only had to change his shorts.  I just got back here a few days ago from R&R in the states and while I was gone they found a large cobra between the floor and sub-floor of my office.  They tried for several days to catch it with no sucess.  It is still there and as long as it plays nice I have no problems with it being there---we named him "George"6 Miller Big Blue 600 Air Paks2 Miller 400D6 Lincoln LN-25's4 Miller Xtreme 12VS2 Miller Dimension 812 4 Climax BW-3000Z bore welders Hypertherm 65 and 85Bug-O Track BugPair of Welpers
Reply:Originally Posted by ExpatWelderA couple months ago one of my guys got bit by a cobra twice IN the shop!  Fortunately he was not injected with venom and only had to change his shorts.  I just got back here a few days ago from R&R in the states and while I was gone they found a large cobra between the floor and sub-floor of my office.  They tried for several days to catch it with no sucess.  It is still there and as long as it plays nice I have no problems with it being there---we named him "George"
Reply:Originally Posted by ExpatWelder1. AIR-ARCING---I really hate it!2. Working in 95 degree, 95 percent humidity weather3. Working in the rain4. Finding a 3 meter black spitting cobra in a shovel boom i'm working on--(happened yesterday)
Reply:Originally Posted by LanseIll take your snake, if youll get rid of my damn cats...
Reply:The customers, the no pay, slow pay, dialing for dollars, exscuses, the bitching.Vantage 500's LN-25's, VI-400's, cobramatics, Miller migs, synch 350 LX, Powcon inverters, XMT's, 250 Ton Acurrpress 12' brake, 1/4" 10' Atlantic shear,Koikie plasma table W/ esab plasmas. marvel & hyd-mech saws, pirrana & metal muncher punches.
Reply:Originally Posted by ExpatWelderA couple months ago one of my guys got bit by a cobra twice IN the shop!  Fortunately he was not injected with venom and only had to change his shorts.  I just got back here a few days ago from R&R in the states and while I was gone they found a large cobra between the floor and sub-floor of my office.  They tried for several days to catch it with no sucess.  It is still there and as long as it plays nice I have no problems with it being there---we named him "George"
Reply:Originally Posted by oxy moronwell, i guess i hate YOU I am working out of a 2 car garage that also houses a car, and a motorcycle.seriously, i hate making anything 90 degrees.  I can make 87, 88, 89 AND 91, 92, 93 degrees better then anyone on this board, but 90?  no dice.  i should also point out that, i make trapezoids better then anyone, but i haven't been able to make a perfect square/rectangle yet.
Reply:torching off crappy welded poorly placed upper bag mounts while standing under a gas tank....Fixing most automotive fabricated hack jobs...Dealing with customers who want something for nothing,,,Adam MMorales Ranch
Reply:heavy grinding sucks a$$. i really hate having to grind down long plate and big heavy pipe. not a big fan of drilling either. when i first started my first welding job at a fab shop i had to drill alot of holes with the old #7 for a 1/4-20 bolts. ya know bad **** always happens on fridays, and this was the day after my youngest daughter was built. i was drilling my last hole for the day and was too lazy to change or sharpen the bit i guess, so i was pulling with one arm and pushing the drill with the other when snap, next thing i knew my forearm was hamburger........nice i know
Reply:Grinding!  Really s&*ks and the mess is everywhere.  Only thing worse for me is using the plasma torch in my 2 car garage/shop.  Fine black face powder dust everywhere (and the worst case of black boogers I've ever had).Drilling's not too bad if I can get the piece on the milling machine.  The real B!&#h for me is hand drilling holes thru mill scale on HR steel....I hate that stuff.And before I forget, finding out that my 16 yo kid has used up all the duct tape, WD40, batteries, solder, wire, paint, acetone, whatever and/or misplaced most of my tools that I needed to finish a job.Miller 211 w/ spool gunMiller Dynasty 200DXLongevity 60i IGBT plasmaO/A w/ crappy chinese torch/gaugesSouth Bend 10K latheGrizzly 4029 10x54 millGrizzly 7x12 hor bandsawangle grnders, bench grnder, bench belt sndr7.5 hp 80gal cmprsor
Reply:Originally Posted by BTDOnly thing worse for me is using the plasma torch in my 2 car garage/shop.  Fine black face powder dust everywhere (and the worst case of black boogers I've ever had).
Reply:Originally Posted by BTDGrinding!  Really s&*ks and the mess is everywhere.  Only thing worse for me is using the plasma torch in my 2 car garage/shop.  Fine black face powder dust everywhere (and the worst case of black boogers I've ever had).Drilling's not too bad if I can get the piece on the milling machine.  The real B!&#h for me is hand drilling holes thru mill scale on HR steel....I hate that stuff.And before I forget, finding out that my 16 yo kid has used up all the duct tape, WD40, batteries, solder, wire, paint, acetone, whatever and/or misplaced most of my tools that I needed to finish a job.
Reply:When the boss says " want me to show you how to that?"