High Frequency Arc Stabilizer manual?

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Looking for a operation manual for a S D Lee (Division of Century Mfg. Co.) Universal High Frequency Arc Stabilizer model# 115-4.  I'm assuming this unit is the same as a #115-4 Century HF Arc Stabilizer (#115-004) and I think the same units were made for Dayton as well as Sears. I have no idea of it's age.If anyone has a manual they want to sell or copy for a fee,I'd appreciate it. "Thanks"If anyone has one of these units and could share a little info on what is required to operate it correctly,that info would be useful also.At this point I don't know if it requires an AC or DC unit to operate and how large or small a welder is required to make it function as well.I didn't even know my Uncle had the thing stashed away til today. All the leads are marked for correct hookup,but there is a "Warning" printed that states -- Read the operation directions "BEFORE" using this welder. The directions are not listed on the unit for proper operation.
Reply:Got a picture?  Of the front and any tags on it.DavidReal world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:Sorry David--That was about all that was on the unit,and I've got no camera..I don't even own a cell phone. It's about 24" long--8" front to back--& 8" tall---  Across the front is the 115v plug -- the welder input & welder ground lines--- the torch line & ground line--for a total of 5 lines in & out. There is a on/off toggle switch. I seem to remember it said 3500 for an output? someplace on the front,but can't be positive( I'm not looking at it right now). I just wrote down everything I thought would help ID it.All but the 115V plug are probably #2 leads about 4'to5' long. It doesn't appear to have been used much and looks to be in great shape. I just thought I'd try to hook it up since he has an old tig torch set too, that I know he hasn't used in 5 years. He didn't seem to know much about how it works and I know from past equipment conversations he has a tendency to "wing it" if he doesn't know for sure. I'd rather be informed than fry it because I didn't know what I was doing. He didn't know his HH175 could reverse polarity or weld aluminum--then argued when I showed him in his own manual,just to give an idea. Thanks,hopefully someone has one. I checked out Century and they have similar model numbers for other brands and listed  S D Lee mig welders,but not this HF unit and listed no manuals for any of the similar units. I'm pretty sure it's very close to one of the listed units,but Century hasn't got all their old model info posted(if they ever do).
Reply:I have one.  Just hook up in and out.  Turn the switch on and you can start an arc with out touching the electrode.  Gas has to be on.With DC you can turn the switch off once an arc is started.  Some leave it on.  I like the quiet DC arc.Mine is good for 200 or so amps.  Its a Centruy.  When using it on the G7 weldman power it worked better if it wasn't plugged into the welder. It liked a different power source.Tig away!David DavidReal world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:Thanks David--- I've got a very very old AC welder(wooden case) that probably puts out less than 200A that I was thinking about hooking it up to so I could practice,practice,practice(play) with the thing to see if I even have an aptitude for it. I have access to much better equipment,including a better TIG setup,but this way I can just 'puddle' with it on my own time without having to answer to anyone else & without anyone looking over my shoulder. I don't know why,but it seems lately I keep falling into different welding items(Henrob) that are new to me,but I'm not going to complain at this point.....I just have to find/take time to learn to use them.I'd still like to find a manual for it since I'm not very knowledgable about the entire process...just never had a use before...not that I have a use now really other than just wanting to try.....
Reply:Hello everyone.My name is Kevin and I just bought the same SD Lee High Freq. Stab. box along with a Miller Dialarc 250..Guys,I could really use some advice on this setup please.The two units were detatched for transport and that in it's self is a problem.If I send some pics , could somebody help me with this problem?I also could also use a manual on both of these machines if somebody has one they could copy , fax or sale..Thank you very much and I look forward to learning alot on this web [email protected] Attached Images
Reply:Kevin,that's the same as the one I was asking about.... http://www.centurytool.net .. will get you the web page with the phone number...call them and they will send you an email with the manual for a model #115-007 ...It should be almost the same,at least all the important stuff.David gave the info about connections above and the manual wasn't that much more helpful,but it's nice to have anyway.There was a caution about trying to hook the unit to a generator/welder,seems the HF Arc Stabilizer doesn't like a generator hook-up.The Miller site should have a manual for the Dial- Arc unit.
Reply:Same unit as I have.  Haven't used it in years.  But it always worked.  Hooked up to a weldmanpower.  I had to add a cap to the output in form of a kit from lincoln so the Hi Freq wouldn't hurt the generator.DavidReal world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:Thanks for the replyUnfortunately my welder has the ac side connections on the right as pictured and the ink is now faded too bad to read so I don't know what's in or out and which stabilizer box leads to use for which connection.I will try and contact century thoughThank you again for the helpKev...
Reply:In that case....You need to find a manual for the Dial-Arc or maybe someone with one could post a clear picture of the controls to help you out.You should see the welder I'm thinking about hooking up to...the case is made of wood..and absolutely no markings for what hooks up where.
Reply:You are a very brave manI've been a ER nurse for over 20 yrs so I can help if you need your heart "jump started", but need help on this one.Fortunately I spoke to a "tig specialist" at my local welding supply shop and he is going to look at my HAS box Thur. and tell me how to hook the thing up...Will keep you postedThanksKev...
Reply:Believe me ..I have no intention of doing anything I think is dangerous... I respect anything high voltage.  The unit is an old AC welder,but there are no markings about which terminal is which, so until I have more information on it I'll just wait.
Reply:I'll take a pic of mine.  Camera is at work today, but Friday I can do it.It still has the labels on it.DavidReal world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:Thanks guysI spoke to a fellow today who showed me how to hook up the unit to tig steelI'm new at this so am easily impressedI now at least know how to hook up for steel tig.Apparently the guy who used it before me just used it for aluminum which uses the AC side but the man told me that I really didn't need to have a stabilizer to tig steel that in reality,I could get a "little jolt" by using the stabilizer.He told me to first set up and use the torch to just practice on technique before I start to use a "filler" rod.Makes sense to me . What do you guys think?ThanksKev..
Reply:Hi Kev.  I have one of these boxes and it works just fine.  I also have a manual, but it does not tell you much interesting.  I opened the box and it is very simple inside.  The only adjustment is the spark gap size.  I cannot remember offhand what the recommendation is.  This box does have the bypass cap on the welder output side so it will not fry your welder diodes on DC.  But I still installed the outboard filter.  If you swap input and output leads, it will fry your welder.  Also, the filter in the box is very cheezy.    That is why I opted to install my own as a backup.
Reply:I have one of those high freq units also.   How effective are they with Alum TIG Welding with an AC welder?   Also, if I hook the welder output to the welder output lead socket on the box I should be ok with using this with a DC welder right?  I don't feel like applying 3500 volts to my DC welder rectifiers!Dave911
Reply:Hey guys..haven't talked to anyone in a while..Hope you are well Today I traded for Miller Maxstar 150 stig/tig machine.This thing comes in a carring case and is about the size o f mail boxThis machine stick will  tig weld without even a sound and it even has 110v.They safe at my local welding supply house that sales Miller these things start around $1300.00 and up and that's without the remote finger switch or gasI just may be able to learn how to weld with machine.I now have 4 welders in my shop and don't know hardly anything about themDon't you guys think that's a little " crazy" ?Oh well; I sure could use any pointers you might have weld tech or anything to keep me causing a mushroom cloud from my shop...Thanks again for your earsKev...
Reply:Little late, but here ya go.Greg Attached Images115-007, High Frequency Manual.pdf (90.0 KB, 2259 views)
Reply:Originally Posted by arcmanLittle late, but here ya go.Greg
Reply:HiI have a copy of the manual for the Sears version. I have one these units and the Sears unit is identical. Here is the link to down load it (11 MB)http://powertool.manualsonline.com/m...e6ae41e06a.pdf