Another little turbo project

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I just built another little header, down pipe, charge pipe, and dump tube for this little 84 Corolla 1.8. I did the original work 4 or 5 years ago, and he wanted to go to a little larger turbo.We dont build prettyMy Lawyer has me on retainer
Reply:dear lord... They really like the shiny stuff nowadays eh?Nice work too!I can remember in the 7th grade my mom said "people will offer you drugs" by the 10th grade I was like, "where the hell are these people?"
Reply:thats a whole lotta turbo for that little engine bay...
Reply:whoa the turbo is like half of the engine size! nice work!My Babies: HF Drill pressHF Pipe Bender3   4.5" Black and Decker angle grindersLincoln Electric PROMIG 175that´s it!
Reply:It's amazing that an engine that small (3sgte?) can spin such a large turbine. What kind of power is he making? Got any vids? I'd love something like that in a Datsun Z or Tacoma pickup. This may be a question better suited for another section of this forum, but what's the trick to welding a turbo manifold or header with each pipe being so close to one another? Do you start piece by piece at the collector and then work your way to the flange that bolts to the head? I understand that each section has to be equal length, correct? Awesome work, btw!
Reply:can you build me a set of headers like thesebut of stainless Attached Images
Reply:I sure can.Some of my other recent work. Originally Posted by ed maccan you build me a set of headers like thesebut of stainless
Reply:Thank you. In a deal like this, I dont even try to make anything equal length. There is not near enough room, and it really does not make a hill of beans worth of difference in the performance at this level. Equal length, or rather equal pressure drop does not apply much in the turbo world, as the turbo is like a potato in the tail pipe. All of the scavenge affect goes out the window. It does apply in the sense of trying to time exhaust pulses against the turbine wheel in a case where there is enough room, and the car will need to perform through the mid range.As far as welding the pipes in a tight area, I start by building the collector, then basically one pipe at a time. I try and tack the pipes, then break the tacks, and weld them all up, then reattach. Easier said then done. I just try not to paint myself into a corner when doing so. It just takes some time, and some thought.It is a 3SGTE head, on a 5S block (I think). It is a 2.2 liter, on Alcohol. It spins the turbine up, (96mm turbine, 1.32 ar T-6 back housing) on the 2 step, and that's it. It is really only used for drag racing. The car has been 8.3x at 16x in the past on a gt42-76.A quick little vid of the car on the 76.There other car that is more race car, and less street car. Same motor program, and this is an old turbo off of it. Originally Posted by Skeeter McgeeIt's amazing that an engine that small (3sgte?) can spin such a large turbine. What kind of power is he making? Got any vids? I'd love something like that in a Datsun Z or Tacoma pickup. This may be a question better suited for another section of this forum, but what's the trick to welding a turbo manifold or header with each pipe being so close to one another? Do you start piece by piece at the collector and then work your way to the flange that bolts to the head? I understand that each section has to be equal length, correct? Awesome work, btw!
Reply:i only wish i could do that
Reply:It just takes seat time. There are many things that I wish I could do as well. Originally Posted by boatbuoyi only wish i could do that
Reply:nice work man my friend bernie does work like that he has a 7 sec 1/4 mi civic im an american muscle guy but its tough to make any car run 7s lots of respect
Reply:I worked on some turbos on a Navy oiler (huge ship) 900 ft. long. I think it was a 10 cyl. Pielstick (sp?) The turbos were so big I could crawl inside of the intakes. It had 2 main engines with 4 turbos. I got to go find the photos.
Reply:I worked on some turbos on a Navy oiler (huge ship) 900 ft. long. I think it was a 10 cyl. Pielstick (sp?) The turbos were so big I could crawl inside of the intakes. It had 2 main engines with 4 turbos. I got to go find the photos.  I got to learn how to add photos.
Reply:Originally Posted by LavaI worked on some turbos on a Navy oiler (huge ship) 900 ft. long. I think it was a 10 cyl. Pielstick (sp?) The turbos were so big I could crawl inside of the intakes. It had 2 main engines with 4 turbos. I got to go find the photos.  I got to learn how to add photos.
Reply:Originally Posted by joefitzDiesel ships, though quick... won't be laying down numbers like this at the track. The easiest way would be to set up an account on Photobucket. They give you the image codes or direct links to the pictures.  The USNS RappahanockColt Pielstick TurboColtColt Pielstick Cylinder liner.
Reply:Originally Posted by ed maccan you build me a set of headers like thesebut of stainless
Reply:Originally Posted by LarryONo reply from ED?  Did you think Errol would be bamboozled to make a pi$$y set of small block pipes?
Reply:Wow, the USNS RAPPAHONOCK. I've worked on that ship at Pearl Harbor. I think that might of been the same job. I not sure it was about 10 years ago on that job. I've worked on almost all of the MSNS oilers. After a while I get the ships and the jobs mixed up.I wished I took more photos of the stuff that I worked on. But they get mad about taking photos. That might be the same exact turbo. I've spent 1000's of hours working on all kinds of stuff on those ships. I could find my way around blindfolded on those ships. Well, almost.
Reply:I can tell you that I do those jobs on a time and material basis. I can also tell you that you will have nearly twice what you paid for the old headers into material alone. I will pm my hourly rate to you. Originally Posted by ed maci havent replyed because i havent been on line i really would like a set. that ceramic coatingdoesnt last. i payed $725.00 there hooker super comps ill look up the pn#  and i thinkthy where made for stock heads my brodixalum. heads have a 3/4 raised ex portsso if you can give me a price welded and if you sell a kit that i can weld my selfthanks ed
Reply:first geat a real boat two 55,000 hp turbine enginesnext the headers pn# hok-2214-1 payed $523.95ill pay a grand for a good set Attached Images
Reply:Now now Ed, I don't work on boats, I work on ships.  If you served on the Arleigh Burke in the Med. I might have been just a lines throw away from you. Just 445 feet longer on the Dahl- and I think we had more guns on board at the time. You squids may not like us, but we the sea chickens bring you the ice cream you need to keep you from crying like the little girls in the air force. Let us know how the exhaust comes out.I can remember in the 7th grade my mom said "people will offer you drugs" by the 10th grade I was like, "where the hell are these people?"
Reply:that's some cool work/headers you have made.  I have a turbo'd Beetle that I will be looking to do an engine swap next year some time.  It is going to get a 2.8 liter 4cyl. air cooled turbo motor on methanol (right now a turbo'd 2.4 liter on gas).  Hoping for 850 HP or so.  Don't really know what turbo I would want (or should want).  How can you make a set of headers custom without the actual car there for fitment issues?
Reply:I can not build a header like this without the car. Inevitably, there will be some interference with something else if I do. As far as a turbo goes, something in the 66mm inducer range can produce 850hp with its tongue hanging out. If you would like the turbo to not work as hard, something a bit larger will do the trick, but then the motor will need to work harder to get it moving. I am a fan of the BEP 366 for the 850hp area. Originally Posted by dcuploverthat's some cool work/headers you have made.  I have a turbo'd Beetle that I will be looking to do an engine swap next year some time.  It is going to get a 2.8 liter 4cyl. air cooled turbo motor on methanol (right now a turbo'd 2.4 liter on gas).  Hoping for 850 HP or so.  Don't really know what turbo I would want (or should want).  How can you make a set of headers custom without the actual car there for fitment issues?
Reply:Originally Posted by Skeeter McgeeIt's amazing that an engine that small (3sgte?) can spin such a large turbine. What kind of power is he making? Got any vids? I'd love something like that in a Datsun Z or Tacoma pickup. This may be a question better suited for another section of this forum, but what's the trick to welding a turbo manifold or header with each pipe being so close to one another? Do you start piece by piece at the collector and then work your way to the flange that bolts to the head? I understand that each section has to be equal length, correct? Awesome work, btw!
Reply:Very nice work. In for future updates. DanOriginally Posted by joefitzNow now Ed, I don't work on boats, I work on ships.  If you served on the Arleigh Burke in the Med. I might have been just a lines throw away from you. Just 445 feet longer on the Dahl- and I think we had more guns on board at the time. You squids may not like us, but we the sea chickens bring you the ice cream you need to keep you from crying like the little girls in the air force. Let us know how the exhaust comes out.
Reply:Hey Erol, WTF the deal with registration at yellowbullet. Monty closed it down 2 months ago and i would love to post over there but its a no go.Syncrowave 350Coolmate 3Millermatic 251Spoolmatic 30A
Reply:I was wondering if you would find your way to this thread. Monty said it would be closed for the holiday's while he was away. I would assume it has been opened back up by now. They are all just a bunch of snob's over there anyway. Originally Posted by n20junkieHey Erol, WTF the deal with registration at yellowbullet. Monty closed it down 2 months ago and i would love to post over there but its a no go.
Reply:I have been lurking over at YB since the beginning of Dec, and I can say that your right about the snobs.  There is some good guys from what I can see, but as usual (I have been on car boards since 96 or so) the non-racers, and slow street guys talk smack about stuff they couldn't dream of doing. I enjoy seeing your work, keep posting pics of projects. I do alot of tube work, be it chassis and engine plumbing, Its nice to see how others do it. I am stealing ideas, just a FYI.Syncrowave 350Coolmate 3Millermatic 251Spoolmatic 30A