Cylinder head crack

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Just wondering if you guys would fix this ? I am a mechanic by trade, no way would I attempt to weld this. Just wondering what experienced guys think.  The head is cast iron. The customer just wants to put a new engine now, both heads are cracked.Thanks,Dave
Reply:Hard to say much without a good picture, or at least some detailed description.
Reply:maybe you could weld itHTP Invertig 201Lincoln Idealarc SP250Miller 180 AC StickBy farmall:They should have held the seagull closer to the work, squeezing evenly for best deposition.
Reply:Originally Posted by Oldiron2Hard to say much without a good picture, or at least some detailed description.
Reply:Originally Posted by weldbeadlooks like fordman can see it..oldiron2  and me cant...
Reply:what head?
Reply:You can weld them if you can get to the crack...then you need to finish it off with a mill or a dia grinder if its some where outta the way..it'll never be great, but good enough for most mums and dads to run around withLast edited by satanzhand; 06-06-2011 at 06:48 AM.
Reply:Originally Posted by satanzhandYou can weld them if you can get to the crack...then you need to finish it off with a mill or a dia grinder if its some where outta the way..it'll never be great, but good enough for most mums and dads to run around with
Reply:I stand by my answer.  It's good enough for a forum and a question with little detail.  The guy just wants to know is it possible and the answer is yes.  I can't imagine Dave is going to run off, after reading my two sentence worth and bird s**t  weld a cast block and put it back on the Flying St Mary's Children's hospital emergency services Rolls Royce plane engine.lighten up,
Reply:Originally Posted by satanzhandI stand by my answer.  It's good enough for a forum and a question with little detail.  The guy just wants to know is it possible and the answer is yes.  I can't imagine Dave is going to run off, after reading my two sentence worth and bird s**t  weld a cast block and put it back on the Flying St Mary's Children's hospital emergency services Rolls Royce plane engine.lighten up,
Reply:Dave,Do a search on member castweld threads and you'll see what can be done to repair cracked and damaged heads - both cast iron and aluminum from grocery getter to high performance.I've personally witnessed him perform his skill and definately wouldn't bet against anyone that might claim he could weld a head back together that was broken in two.DuaneMM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:I would like to see a few pics myself....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:No pictures or info looks like Attached Images
Reply:Originally Posted by Oldiron2The PO was asking about this specific case, not welding in general. Even you admit you have no details, but still maintain your answer has some value?I stand by my response that no advice is better than Bad advice.
Reply:Originally Posted by satanzhandIt's quite a common thing to do (even in this case)...and no big deal!...I don't need to (sic) many specifics, because it was and still is, when needed, a common thing to do.  I wouldn't suggest that you're going to be able to run the best race or set a new record 1/4 mile time, but then again I've worked for and seen lots of car and motorcycle race teams do it.  The guy is a mechanic... not a school boy...and I've welded many (not claiming to be an expert, but it wasn't hard and it worked well enough) engine heads, blocks, gearbox housings, diff's, diff housings over the years all have worked and been cheaper than replacing the whole part (always it has been attempted either because of lack of money or time)...This is one of the great tricks of a welder that got me hooked as a teenage...nothing was cooler than one of my Dads tool-pusher mates welding the case up on my dirt bike, that I thought I had just trashed.You really are carrying on like an 'oldgrandma'
Reply:Originally Posted by sin-city-customsJust wondering if you guys would fix this ? I am a mechanic by trade, no way would I attempt to weld this. Just wondering what experienced guys think.  The head is cast iron. The customer just wants to put a new engine now, both heads are cracked.Thanks,Dave
Reply:Dave is asking about this specific head which we (and you too) know nothing about, except that it's one of two that are broken. Dave says he doesn't have the ability to do the work so it would have to be 'farmed out' and paid for,  unless you are offering to do it for free. Are you offering those services? Will you guaranty the work will be successful and will last, or pay for the lost time and the extra efforts spent when replacing the engine later if your repairs fail?[/QUOTE]Oldiron2,Dave's only specifics are; 1) The head is Cast Iron, 2) Would you guys fix this? The answer to the first question, can you weld a Cast Iron head is: ... yes you can.The second question is rhetorical at its root, this means Dave is not asking if anyone on this forum is wanting this job, he is in fact asking; is it at all possible or worth investigating getting someone to do this job.If English is your second language, I'm sorry if I am making fun of you.
Reply:Posted above by "satanshand":Dave is asking about this specific head which we (and you too) know nothing about, except that it's one of two that are broken. Dave says he doesn't have the ability to do the work so it would have to be 'farmed out' and paid for, unless you are offering to do it for free. Are you offering those services? Will you guaranty the work will be successful and will last, or pay for the lost time and the extra efforts spent when replacing the engine later if your repairs fail? [ /quote]Oldiron2,Dave's only specifics are; 1) The head is Cast Iron, 2) Would you guys fix this?The answer to the first question, can you weld a Cast Iron head is: ... yes you can.The second question is rhetorical at its root, this means Dave is not asking if anyone on this forum is wanting this job, he is in fact asking; is it at all possible or worth investigating getting someone to do this job.If English is your second language, I'm sorry if I am making fun of you.
Reply:Originally Posted by satanzhandIt's quite a common thing to do (even in this case)...and no big deal!...I don't need to many specifics, because it was and still is, when needed, a common thing to do.  I wouldn't suggest that you're going to be able to run the best race or set a new record 1/4 mile time, but then again I've worked for and seen lots of car and motorcycle race teams do it.  The guy is a mechanic... not a school boy...and I've welded many (not claiming to be an expert, but it wasn't hard and it worked well enough) engine heads, blocks, gearbox housings, diff's, diff housings over the years all have worked and been cheaper than replacing the whole part (always it has been attempted either because of lack of money or time)...This is one of the great tricks of a welder that got me hooked as a teenage...nothing was cooler than one of my Dads tool-pusher mates welding the case up on my dirt bike, that I thought I had just trashed.You really are carrying on like an 'oldgrandma'