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ok this may be a dumb question but ,is there any way to make a vs feeder like a s-32p into a mm reach? or is this just wishful thinking !MM 251MM 135Lincoln Pro cut 55Bobcat 250Miller Thunderbolt ac/dcolder ac forneyJackson nexgen 3n13-Smith OP setups97 Dodge dieselMakita chopsawJet swivel head bandsawlincoln tig 300/30030a spoolgunpuma port. gas air comp.
Reply:To do mig well you need a CV power source. Other than the Reach, I'm not aware of a small CV unit like there are in CC. You could use a VS feeder from a small CC unit, but you will have some issues. VS feeders in CC will not run short circuit mig well. They wiil do a decent job with large wire spray using FC wire, but out of position welds like vert and overhead are a PITA. I'm not sure if the small CC units have the amps to run big wire FC in spray.I think you'd be better off with just a gen set and a plug in stand alone mig..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:DSW I think you have made a sight mistake here the mm reach is a wire feeder is it not? I am not a pro but i don't see why you couldn't use an S-32p as an mm reach. depending on the machine you are connecting it to and the connection it has.Thanks Ryan_______________________OF COURSE I DON'T LOOK BUSY... I DID IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME
Reply:Originally Posted by trouble007DSW I think you have made a sight mistake here the mm reach is a wire feeder is it not? I am not a pro but i don't see why you couldn't use an S-32p as an mm reach. depending on the machine you are connecting it to and the connection it has.Thanks Ryan
Reply:An MM Reach is designed to work with a shop MIG like the OP's MM 251. So the question as I understand it is - can you run a VS wire feeder off of an integrated (wire feeder / power source in one) MIG?Possibly, if you jerry rig it, but the machine may not like it. I picture you would have to remove the spool of wire from your MM 251, and tape the trigger (or use a jumper wire) on your MM251 gun to get an always on positive lead which you can tap into to supply the suitcase feeder. Set the voltage on the MM, and wirespeed on the suitcase, and it may work.But will the machine like it and not give up its magic smoke? I couldn't say.JasonXMT 350 MPA Dynasty 280DXSuitcase 8RC / OptimaSpoolmatic 30AThermco Ar / C02 mixerAssorted O/A gear
Reply:I have the Reach feeder here.  It's a little more complicated than just a VS feeder connected to the weld output leads.  The Reach uses the 10-pin spool gun connector on the welding machine to open and close the contacter, as well as to tell the machine not to run the internal wire drive mech and gas solenoid.  It also sends a signal back to the welding machine to tell it what wire speed is being set at the feeder, which the machine then displays on the meter.  This information is more important to the pulse program in the 350P than it is to other machines.  Without the wire speed information, the pulse program doesn't know where to set the voltage output of the machine, since the two are tied directly together by the pulse program.No other volt-sense feeder will have that circuit to allow it to work with the machine through the 10-pin connector as the Reach does.  You would be connecting the feeder as a straight up volt sense feeder to any other mig power supply, but you need a way to open and close the contacter and keep the machine from feeding wire.  Simply removing the drive rolls and leaving the gas cyl off would accomplish not wasting wire and gas, though the solenoid would still be opening and closing and the wire drive motor would still be turning.  You could run 2 wires from the 4-pin mig gun connector on the machine out to the trigger on the gun on the feeder, so the gun trigger controls both the vs feeder motor and the machine contacter.  This should work fine on an older non-computer mig machine.  On a newer computer controlled machine like the 251, there could be other issues at hand with extra machine functions we don't know about.MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:thanks for all the replys guys, i was just wanting a way to get further than fifteen feet away.MM 251MM 135Lincoln Pro cut 55Bobcat 250Miller Thunderbolt ac/dcolder ac forneyJackson nexgen 3n13-Smith OP setups97 Dodge dieselMakita chopsawJet swivel head bandsawlincoln tig 300/30030a spoolgunpuma port. gas air comp.
Reply:So are you going to experiment? Or leave it alone. I don't wish a fried machine on anybody, but I am curious if it will work. So let us know if you give it a try, OK?JasonXMT 350 MPA Dynasty 280DXSuitcase 8RC / OptimaSpoolmatic 30AThermco Ar / C02 mixerAssorted O/A gear