IPM meter?

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Has anyone ever heard of a meter to measure ipm on your wire feeder. The guage on my Super S32-P is not working properly and I remember either someone telling me or reading about a handheld meter to use on any wire feeder. I use the stop watch on my phone and multiply, but it never fails......thats when I get a call. I just started using fluxcore and it's not cheap."Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:I guess you could hold the trigger down for 10 sec. w/o welding, measure the amount it ran out and multiply that by 6. Or run it for 6 sec. and multiply by 10. Release the feed rollers and wind it back on the spool.                                              Mike  I guess you're trying to do the same thing I just described. Get something that only rings when the alarm goes off,LOL!!Last edited by mla2ofus; 11-15-2010 at 10:42 PM.Ol' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:See link below, I'm sure way too costly, but just so you know, there are wire speed sensors, and full welding data acquistion systems.http://www.cweldtech.com/product-WireTrak.html
Reply:Originally Posted by pulserSee link below, I'm sure way too costly, but just so you know, there are wire speed sensors, and full welding data acquistion systems.http://www.cweldtech.com/product-WireTrak.html
Reply:I suppose that once you figured the math to recalibrate the face of a hand-held tach, you could touch the tach to the drive roll or maybe even the wire itself and get a direct IPM  reading.Good Luck
Reply:I found the buddy who told me about this. I wonder how much it costs???http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Cat...et.aspx?p=2228"Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:Never mind, Buy it now on ebay for $1199.95 "Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:Stick, I'm not trying to be a smarta$$, but what does IPM have to do w/ the price of fluxcore. It takes "x" amount of wire to make" y " inches of weld. Please explain. Maybe I'm having a senior moment,LOL. I guess if you know the IPM and can keep track of actual weld time then you know the cost of the wire/min if you know how many inches or feet of wire makes a pound.                                                      MikeOl' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:That's so you can count the pennies as they roll away, in real time. Let's roll!City of L.A. Structural; Manual & Semi-Automatic;"Surely there is a mine for silver, and a place where gold is refined. Iron is taken from the earth, and copper is smelted from ore."Job 28:1,2Lincoln, Miller, Victor & ISV BibleDanny
Reply:Originally Posted by mla2ofusStick, I'm not trying to be a smarta$$, but what does IPM have to do w/ the price of fluxcore. It takes "x" amount of wire to make" y " inches of weld. Please explain. Maybe I'm having a senior moment,LOL. I guess if you know the IPM and can keep track of actual weld time then you know the cost of the wire/min if you know how many inches or feet of wire makes a pound.                                                      Mike
Reply:So far as I know, the meter is not physically measuring actual wire speed as the wire goes out the machine.  The meter just reporting the setting of the motor speed, translated into inches per minute, rather than volt input to the motor, or revolutions per minute.   The number displayed on the meter is nominal, based on what the meter is told about the motor speed and consequently the wire speed value it is setting.   If the drive rolls are slipping, the meter does not know that.   It only knows that you set so many volts to be input to the drive motor, and that motor voltage number translates into approximately X number of inches per minute of wire feed speed, according to the engineers who designed the feeder.  The volt/amp weld meter is measuring actual volts and amps at the feeder while welding, but the feed speed meter is not operating that way, so far as I understand.  It is measuring what you set on the feed speed dial, not what is happening to the welding wire itself.MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:Originally Posted by DesertRider33So far as I know, the meter is not physically measuring actual wire speed as the wire goes out the machine.  The meter just reporting the setting of the motor speed, translated into inches per minute, rather than volt input to the motor, or revolutions per minute.   The number displayed on the meter is nominal, based on what the meter is told about the motor speed and consequently the wire speed value it is setting.   If the drive rolls are slipping, the meter does not know that.   It only knows that you set so many volts to be input to the drive motor, and that motor voltage number translates into approximately X number of inches per minute of wire feed speed, according to the engineers who designed the feeder.  The volt/amp weld meter is measuring actual volts and amps at the feeder while welding, but the feed speed meter is not operating that way, so far as I understand.  It is measuring what you set on the feed speed dial, not what is happening to the welding wire itself.